CaliforniaLyme
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Give me a gosh)!&@%! BREAK!!!! See what happens when they kick Doc J out!!! WORN OUT WOMAN SYNDROME! AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE some rabid activist Lymies infiltrate this thing and raise some awareness!!! Holy mumbo jumbo!!!!!!!!!!! ********************************************* The Carolina Center to Discuss Worn-Out Woman Syndrome on December 11th Triangle - RALEIGH, NC - December 3, 2007 - John C. Pittman, MD, Director of the Carolina Center for Integrative Medicine (CCIM), will present ``Finding Relief from Worn-Out Woman Syndrome (WOWS)'' on Tuesday, December 11th from 7:00-8:00PM. This free presentation will be held at 3700 Glenwood Avenue, Suite 500 in Raleigh and will address the progressive causes of WOWS, as well as uncover ways to cope with this condition. The presentation is being sponsored by Triangle Compounding Pharmacy.
``Changes in our society have placed increased demands on women who are now challenged to not only continue the traditional child rearing and homemaker roles, but to also hold down a full-time job and succeed professionally,'' explains Dr. Pittman. ``By the age of 35, many women are starting to feel this wear and tear, and their ability to function on a day-to-day basis is comprised. The Carolina Center recognizes that many women are experiencing this progressive decline in health and have appropriately named this condition `Worn-Out Woman Syndrome''.
Think you're a worn-out woman? Dr. Pittman offers some indications that characterize this syndrome:
* In generally good health throughout most of ones life, but with increasing minor health problems as time progresses.
* A gradual compromise of the immune system with increasing incidents of infections of all kinds.
* A gradual decline in energy and a gradual development of musculoskeletal problems.
* The worsening of preexisting chronic digestive disorders and mood disturbances.
* A feeling of accelerated aging with loss of muscle tone, increased wrinkling of the face and neck, and inability to engage in physical activity without becoming exhausted.
Advanced registration is required in case of cancellation. Register by contacting the Carolina Center at (919) 571-4391 or via e-mail at [email protected].
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AliG
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quote:The presentation is being sponsored by Triangle Compounding Pharmacy.
I wonder what meds they're selling to fix it.
BTW- I'm guessing the syndrome is Lyme + Yeast, being called depression.
"Needing antidepressants is nothing to be ashamed of, you know. Lots of people need them. Here's a card for a Therapist, she should be very helpful.".....said the duck. (over and over and over and over, lunchtime!, and over and over and over......)
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ConnieMc
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In case you all are wondering, Dr. P in Raleigh is the only so-called LLMD we have in NC since Dr. J left.
However, he is mostly alternative in his practices and is heavily into expensive supplements. And vitamin C infusions called "High C" at about $120 a pop.
I should know, I spent a great deal of money at his clinic. And benefited from his care. But after a time I learned enough about supplements myself that I decided to wing it on my own. I could no longer afford to go. I found I could get the exact same supplements, brand names and all, at a fraction of the price.
Most costs are out-of-pocket, actually all for me as my insurance wouldn't even reimburse for the tests that were traditional tests. They had his name flagged as an alternative medicine practitioner. And paid a big fat zero just because of that.
I am a bit surprised by this WOWS stuff myself. Imagine that, labeling that as a syndrome.
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quote:Originally posted by ConnieMc: I am a bit surprised by this WOWS stuff myself. Imagine that, labeling that as a syndrome.
Yeah, it shows how suspect all these syndromes are, post-lyme (PLS), etc. Though I agree this one is particularly absurd and disgusting.
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How about Not Rich Enough Doctor Syndrome? Very common.
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Or Not Smart Enough Doctor Syndrome/Tremendously Arrogant Doctor Syndrome?
Symptoms: * A reliance on catchy acronyms as a substitute for real thinking about complex problems * A physical inability to utter the phrase "I don't know" * A compulsion to label others hypochondriacs or just stressed out * Addiction to poorly researched guidelines * Egomyalgia
Back to the original topic though, it is amazing how profitable these new syndromes can be for certain people.
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Vermont_Lymie
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Holy Sexist Doctor Syndrome!
Now if we can only find relief from Worn-Out Doctors.
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I'm glad to hear this doctor has helped some people. My comments above are not directed at him specifically, though I do have a real problem with this WOWS thing. I don't have a medical degree but I'm pretty sure that women "succeeding professionally" is not the cause of "a gradual compromise of the immune system".
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bettyg
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HOG WASH! sarah, you took the words out of my mouth; purely disgusting!
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Tracy9
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This is something new????
There is no Worn Out Woman Syndrome, they are just describing
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heiwalove
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i just read this again and i seriously can't believe this is for real.
well, i can, i guess, i just.. really don't want to.
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I think Pittman forgot why Betty Friedan wrote the Feminine Mystique, about women feeling a malaise from being only at home and not also out in the world accomplishing things.
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You'd think that article would have come out of the 19th Century....
These "doctors" are truly a disgrace to their profession. And if they are a women, then to their sex as well....
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Did I, (a man) according to this doc, have "worn out woman syndrome", after I got bit by a tick? Yes, various nutricional supplements, etc., helped. But it smells like there's a big rip-off going on here... Why is it people are so prone to to preying on sick people? They should be pRaying FOR sick people and taking action to get them better as affordably as possible. There is something really wrong going on, it seems.
And why wasn't lyme disease mentioned? Lots of very similar symptoms. Could it be some kind of "dr. coward" syndrome? Given the situation, of course, that'd be quite excuseable!! DaveS
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luvs2ride
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I have been a working woman my entire life. At one point, I was a single Mom too.
When I was a teenager and burning the bra was the latest women's lib movement, my "stay-at-home" mother said "Women's lib is nothing but Women's slavery". At the time, I thought she was nuts.
It wasn't too many years in the professional world with 2 small children, I changed my opinion of her and thought she was incredibly smart.
Sorry folks, but I don't stand with you at all on this issue. Women working has worn them out and cheated their children. I won't agree that working women destroyed marriage. I give men plenty of credit there. Men have come to expect the women to work and bring in money but all too many men don't feel they have to contribute to the fulltime job of tending house and family.
Oh, so many men think if they carry out the trash or run the vacumn every once in a while, they are helping. Let's don't even think about how much nagging it took to get that much done.
I've been married 3 times. It took that many tries to find a husband who was an equal partner pulling the wagonload with equal force. This husband and I have been married 23 yrs. We have co-owned two successful businesses and he has never failed to give me sooo much more credit than I ever deserved. He doesn't have to be asked to do any work at home. He just does it. I couldn't tell you which of us does more.
So, I speak from experience when I say there is extra burden not only on the women who work but on the entire family.
I beleive stress brought my lyme into action. If I could do my life over, I would try to not work. I would focus on raising my children and I would strive to keep my life as stress free as possible.
Today, my kids are grown and have kids of their own. We are all very close, but they both are much more focused on their children than their careers and I support that 100%. My advice to them is to slow down and enjoy today.
You can work until you drop into your grave and work will just replace you. But there will never be a replacement of you for your children.
JMHO. I stand in agreement with this doctor.
Luvs
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I have been a working woman my entire life. At one point, I was a single Mom too.
When I was a teenager and burning the bra was the latest women's lib movement, my "stay-at-home" mother said "Women's lib is nothing but Women's slavery". At the time, I thought she was nuts.
It wasn't too many years in the professional world with 2 small children, I changed my opinion of her and thought she was incredibly smart.
Sorry folks, but I don't stand with you at all on this issue. Women working has worn them out and cheated their children. I won't agree that working women destroyed marriage. I give men plenty of credit there. Men have come to expect the women to work and bring in money but all too many men don't feel they have to contribute to the fulltime job of tending house and family.
Oh, so many men think if they carry out the trash or run the vacumn every once in a while, they are helping. Let's don't even think about how much nagging it took to get that much done.
I've been married 3 times. It took that many tries to find a husband who was an equal partner pulling the wagonload with equal force. This husband and I have been married 23 yrs. We have co-owned two successful businesses and he has never failed to give me sooo much more credit than I ever deserved. He doesn't have to be asked to do any work at home. He just does it. I couldn't tell you which of us does more.
So, I speak from experience when I say there is extra burden not only on the women who work but on the entire family.
I beleive stress brought my lyme into action. If I could do my life over, I would try to not work. I would focus on raising my children and I would strive to keep my life as stress free as possible.
Today, my kids are grown and have kids of their own. We are all very close, but they both are much more focused on their children than their careers and I support that 100%. My advice to them is to slow down and enjoy today.
You can work until you drop into your grave and work will just replace you. But there will never be a replacement of you for your children.
JMHO. I stand in agreement with this doctor.
Luvs
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Dear Luvs,
I stay at home with my children. That doesn't keep me from being "worn" out though.
In my very humble opinion, it is harder to do that than work a 40 hour work week.
It is so worth it though. I agree with your principle, but not the doctor.
My Mom always said to us (children), "If you knew you had one more day to live,
Would your last thought be Gee I wish I worked another day?"
I am lucky I guess that I am able to do this right now (financially wise).
I didn't wait 36 years to have a child to let someone else raise him/her.
Maybe what the doctor is alluding to is that women work harder than men,
With a full time job and raising a family.
Maybe they should call it Lazy Husband Syndrome.
In my house, I keep every one on track and going in the "right" direction.
I know there are many extrememly supportive husbands out there.
However, I am sure that are many like mine too.
Glad so many of you have a husband that pulls an equal part of that load.
Hugs,
Geneal
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ConnieMc
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quote:Originally posted by Geneal: Dear Luvs,
I stay at home with my children. That doesn't keep me from being "worn" out though.
In my very humble opinion, it is harder to do that than work a 40 hour work week.
Amen to that! I had 2 daughters about 1 1/2 years apart, therefore 2 in diapers at the same time.
I was working 1/2 to 3/4 time at the time and I always felt as if work was the only place I got a break.
As soon as I walked in the door at home, I hit the ground running and it rarely stopped.
While I can understand what Dr. Pittman is trying to do here, it is all coming across in a negative way. Life is full of stress for EVERYONE these days. Work and home, it's nearly impossible to keep up. Anyone could benefit from stress reducing techniques and perhaps vitamin supplementation. The fact that he is directing this at a specific group tells me that this is nothing more than a live-and-in-person commercial for his clinic.
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Why's he just picking on women? Men have stress too.
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luvs2ride
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I like the "lazy husband syndrome"
I don't feel Dr P is picking on women.
And I agree with you stay-at-home moms. It ain't easy. But it is even harder if you work all day and then come home to fix dinner, wash clothes, bathe kids, vacumn home, etc.
It lit my butt so bad to watch the first 2 hubby's sit in front of the TV while I had all that work to do, that I left their sorry butts!! If I have to do it all myself anyway, then I would just as soon not have them to feed and pick up after.
I got a good husband this time and he is very supportive. Hence, I let him stay.
Luvs
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PS: If working a 40hr work week was all I had had to do, you would be right. It would have been much more sane and easy.
But I had to work (40 HA!!!) 50+ hrs per week then go home and do everything you had all day to do.
Big difference.
You are sooooo lucky if you can afford to stay home with your children.
Luvs
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I'm going to venture the NC Worn Out Woman Syndrome is only going to get worse since Dr. J is no longer there. Imagine that???
After reading the article and getting over being mad it really is laughable...I guess Dr. Pittman is as butt dumb as the Hopkins so called doctors.
Hey there Connie
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What is worn out is the battle w/ working and stay at home Moms.
All of us have our own personal battles,struggles,as Moms,we must remain united and always put the children and families first. The situation w/ Dr. Jones says it all. Kids first....all of our collective hard work pays off.
North Carolina is an awful climate now for all Drs. The medical board has all of them running w/ their tails in between their legs. The mention of Chronic Lyme and you get treated at the end of a 12ft.pole.
Most Drs. DO NOT want to talk about Lyme,after the horrible slashing of Dr. J.
If Dr. P can at least bring comfort to a few poor souls living in agony so be it.
If he were to advertise a presentation about TICK BITES....the Medical Board would be on his door step.
The citizens of NC are living back in the days of witch hunting.Finding relief from TBD is like living in an underground community.
At least he used the word WOMAN...by the time we finish w/ him it will be *****in.
Maybe a few will walk in w/ WOW and come out knowing about TBD.
The NC Medical Board sucks,so got to play their game for now and get around their foul play somehow.
NC has been put in the Dark Ages concerning Lyme and TBD.A state w/ many Colleges,Drug Cos., etc.,etc,.....sad ,sad ,sad.
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luvs2ride
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Good point 3GK.
I am real certain my LLMD avoids the "Lyme" label in my treatment.
I have good energy BTW so I don't qualify for Worn Out Woman syndrome, but I have been there in the days when my kids were young and I feel Dr P is sympathetic not chauvenistic.
Luvs
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I think that Worn Out Woman Syndrome is a viable idea. Women internalize stress differently than men, because of the importance they put on relationships with all people. They internalize a different need for meaningful communication and connection than men do.
Whether at home or at work or at both -- women most often try to be all things to all people and end up feeling like they aren't being "good enough" in their many roles.
This isn't to diminish the stress that men experience at all! Women are just hard-wired relationship perfectionists -- they need to feel strong connection to whomever they associate -- and they get over-partialized.
I worked for 20 years before having children. Both working outside the home and in the home are hard! Doing both is extremely wearing! Doing either or both with Lyme is just plain daunting!
That said, I love the acronym game! Can I play?
How about WUSS -- Weird Under-estimating So-Called Scientists!
Best to women and men who work and parent,
wiserforit
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