heiwalove
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anyone ever herx from cardamom? i know, it sounds crazy, but last night i chewed on a whole bunch of cardamom seeds to try and help alleviate my nausea (it's an ayurvedic remedy for nausea, apparently) and half an hour later i was curled up, shaky, nauseous, hot-cold-hot-cold, totally and completely miserable.
eventually i went online and found that cardamom is a possible babesia cyst-buster; selma posted it as part of her babs protocol.. anyway, makes sense, but wow, i had one hell of a babs herx last night and i only chewed on/ate about 8 cardamom seeds total!
CaliforniaLyme
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It has other effects other than anti-piroplasmic! *************************************************1: J Ethnopharmacol. 2007 Oct 22
Gut modulatory, blood pressure lowering, diuretic and sedative activities of cardamom.
Gilani AH, Jabeen Q, Khan AU, Shah AJ. Natural Product Research Division, Department of Biological and Biomedical Sciences, Aga Khan University, Karachi 74800, Pakistan.
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE: Cardamom (Elettaria cardamomum) is traditionally used in various gastrointestinal, cardiovascular and neuronal disorders.
AIM OF THE STUDY: To rationalize cardamom use in constipation, colic, diarrhea, hypertension and as diuretic.
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Cardamom crude extract (Ec.Cr) was studied using in vitro and in vivo techniques.
RESULTS: Ec.Cr caused atropine-sensitive stimulatory effect in isolated guinea-pig ileum at 3-10mg/ml. In rabbit jejunum preparations, Ec.Cr relaxed spontaneous and K(+) (80mM)-induced contractions as well as shifted Ca(++) curves to right, like verapamil. Ec.Cr (3-100mg/kg) induced fall in the arterial blood pressure (BP) of anaesthetized rats, partially blocked in atropinized animals. In endothelium-intact rat aorta, Ec.Cr relaxed phenylephrine (1muM)-induced contractions, partially antagonized by atropine and also inhibited K(+) (80mM) contractions.
In guinea-pig atria, Ec.Cr exhibited a cardio-depressant effect.
Ec.Cr (1-10mg/kg) produced diuresis in rats, accompanied by a saluretic effect. It enhanced pentobarbital-induced sleeping time in mice. Bio-assay directed fractionation revealed the separation of spasmogenic and spasmolytic components in the aqueous and organic fractions respectively.
CONCLUSION: These results indicate that cardamom exhibits gut excitatory and inhibitory effects mediated through cholinergic and Ca(++) antagonist mechanisms respectively and lowers BP via combination of both pathways. The diuretic and sedative effects may offer added value in its use in hypertension and epilepsy.
PMID: 18037596
Antimicrobial activity of Elettaria cardamomum: Toxicity, biochemical and histological studies
Jazila El Maltia, , , Driss Mountassifb and Hamid Amaroucha, aLaboratoire de Microbiologie, Pharmacologie, Biotechnologie et Environnement, Universit� Hassan II - A�n Chock, Facult� des Sciences, km 8 route d'El Jadida BP, 5366 Casablanca, Morocco bLaboratoire de Biochimie et Biologie Mol�culaire, Universit� Hassan II - A�n Chock, Facult� des Sciences, km 8 route d'El Jadida BP. 5366, Casablanca, Morocco Received 8 December 2006; revised 19 February 2007; accepted 21 February 2007. Available online 12 March 2007.
Abstract Elettaria cardamomum is one of the most broadly used spices in Moroccan gastronomy. Its antimicrobial activity against both Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacterial species was demonstrated. Likewise, its toxicity was investigated on Swiss albinos mice. Daily, mice were treated orally with 0.003 and 0.3 mg during 7 days. Plasmatic markers and antioxidant defence systems were assessed and histological alterations were evaluated. A significant increase in creatine phosphokinase level was observed.
The microscopic evaluation shows that E. cardamomum induce morphological perturbation in mice's heart.
The results show also an inhibitory effect of glyceraldehyde 3-phosphate dehydrogenase and an important increase in the level of thiobarbituric acid reactive substances, succinate dehydrogenase and catalase activities.
Results show that E. cardamomum induces toxicity at 0.3 mg/g mouse and affect energy metabolism and oxidative stress.
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hardynaka
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Hey Heather!!! Funny experience. I only take bits of cardamon and it helps my herxes mostly!
I never test for very high amounts. In the time I was fighting the rest of babesia, I'm pretty sure it helped me there immensely (killing), but I was not taking in lots of amounts.
Sarah, interesting publication! Thanks!
I took cardamon just by accident, I found out it was a BIG "yes" to my babesia that kept returning through muscle tests.
Now I take it to relieve herxes (but very small amounts, as I say), repeatedly few times a day in warm water/ tea. I also added cloves (and chew these), it also helps my lymph move in a very fast way (so for me, I'm using them as herx relievers).
Funny you think you herxed from it!!!
I swear it was the thing that ended my relapsing babesia (when the Noni tincture could not help anymore for this second reinfection!).
Take it in lesser amounts, Heather!! Even cinnamon, so common spice, I believe it also can have medicinal properties!
Have you got what you wanted (relief from nausea)? Selma
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