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I am curious whether you keep right on taking ABX when herxing or do you stop until you feel better and then start back up.
My doctor recommends that you stop when starting to herx. He has had many patients get much worse and have a hard time getting back to base line.
I am on 400mmg of Doxycycline right now and have been for 4 weeks. Muscular pain in neck and shoulder has been progressively getting worse along with the nerve pain above right elbow. You know all the fun stuff, ha ha.
Thanks. Roger
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My doc told me to stop when the herxing starts, take benadryl for a few days until you feel better and start again. I have stopped and started abx 3 x now. I am assured this is normal. . . . . . . . .and that I need to stick with it.
Take care A
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Rianna
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on Orals I back off let it clear and then restart at lower dosages and build again - My LLMD also said many patients who continue through herx's never get back to baseline.
On IV I continued as I never herx on IV - I assume its as it was given with 200ml saline twice daily so you have a great detox with the IV.
Personally I would back off if LLMD says so and detox hard - try and have Glutathione infusions, loads of epsom salt baths and activated charcoal until your herx stops.
Of course get advise from LLMD before doing anything.
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My LLMD has me take meds through my herxes. I do a LOT to detox though! Epsom salt baths, coffee enemas (HUGE help), lots of water, lemon water, chlorella, undenatured whey protein (twice daily), supplements, etc.
I think it's important to follow LLMD instructions .... we learn a lot online, but ultimately, we have to trust our LLMD's.
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Thanks for the replies. I am definitely going to listen to my LLMD, but was curious what other doctor's were telling their patients.
Curiosity was for my wife as well.
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Bandit,
I personally have never stopped and started due to a herx. I was never told by any of my llmd's to stop if I get a herx.
I have read on this website where the herx was so bad that people had to stop for awhile.
I don't understand why Fin would say that the llmd does'nt base his protocol with meds and
herxes on anything "medical or experience"...HUH!?
Well, just what, pray tell, would he base it on besides past experiences.
You probably got confused in your sentence structure or wording or something.
I can see where "nothing medical" would apply because this is a new and inefficiently researched area of medicine....
so there would be no, QUOTE "medical", UNQUOTE, reason to stop or continue thru the herx.
I have never heard of persons not returning to baseline either. As a matter of fact I would'nt want to return to baseline.
Although I have relapsed many times in the past.
I would expect to be better than baseline if I experienced a particularly strong herx reaction.
You should do as you wish, however, I believe that if you can handle the herx then plow on thru.
It's my opinion that if you are experiencing a strong herx then your spirochetal load is high.
Therefore your killoff ratio, with whatever abx you're using at the time of any particular rough
herx, is doing what we want it to do, killing lots of bugs.
If the dose is backed off of, then this, again in my opinion, would give the targeted
bacteria/virus/parasite/fungus, ample time to build defenses against whatever abx you're
using, crawl into a cystic form or whatever it pleases, or has built into it's survival mechanisms.
Then when the offspring of the spirochetes, or what have you, that you gave time to go into
cyst form, or whatever, would come out the next time immune to the abx you used and a smaller
dose, would also give the spirochete or whatever, a chance to defeat the meds...in it's
own, multiple-defensive ways against a weakened less efficatious medication.
If you can handle the exacerbation of the symptoms....press on!
Of course, if you feel you cannot handle any type of approach at dealing with these diseases, by all means, stop everything.
Listen to your llmd.
But also try to bare in mind what I have listed above. I think I got where I am by plunging forward thru the really bad herxes.
I'm quoting someone else by stating....the only way of defeating these diseases is "to go thru".
At least at the present time, given the lack of knowledge about these diseases.
Having said all of that..... I have also given myself a break with this
latest medication regimen of trying to get at the Babesia strain or strains that I feel I am also infected with.
The medication of Mepron and Ketek and Artimisinin is a real belly buster for me and
quite possibly my parasitic load may be high, exacerbating my gastritis and wear and tear on
my other organs/and or nervous systems it may have wormed it's way into, and would be annoying anyway, without provocation.
Good Luck and hang in there if you and your loved ones can muddle thru.
zman
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