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JaimeeS
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In speaking about the breakouts on my son's face, I forgot to ask about topical steroid creams?

His general pediatrician prescribed us one to help clear up the breakouts. Is this safe to use on him, or no?

I know steroids in general are a big no-no, but what about topical creams?

I'm still awaiting Dr. J's office to call me back with my son's results, and I'll ask when they do call. In the meantime, I'm sure you guys will know the answer for me [Smile]

Also, once you have lyme, are steriods ALWAYS a no-no? Or lets say that my son goes into full remission - would he be able to have them if he needed them?

Thanks in advance!!!

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Anyone?

Now that I know my son seems to be ok, I'm really interested in finding out if these creams are ok or not?

And what about regular steroids? Since my son tested negative for active lyme, are these still a no-no?

Thanks [Smile]

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ABSOLUTELY NOT !

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ABSOLUTELY NOT ! All forms of steroids are advised against in the guidelines. Even a little on the skin is absorbed into the body. Shots, too.

You mention, later, when your son is in remission. That would be a question later then for the doctor.

BTW, a negative test does not mean lyme is not there. Lyme is a clinical diagnosis. If you have your son to the doctor for problems other than acne on his face, there must be more going on. It may not be lyme but the risk with steroids IF lyme might be present is just too much of a risk and could damage his changes of the best recovery possible.

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Also, take a look at the ingredients.

Are there petroleum products in that tube ? If so, it's best to avoid petroleum products in all your lotions, creams. They are endocrine disruptors and linked to cancer. You can google the ingredients and learn more.


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Thank you Keebler, I appreciate your response.

Is Petroleum unsafe for everyone due to the endocrine distruption, or specifically unsafe for lymies?

Thanks again!

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From what I've been reading petroleum products (and most scents) are unsafe for everyone.

Endocrine disruptors can be linked to many health problems but also to daily matters of concentration, anger, confusion, insomnia, etc.

Rachel's Friends is a group working for safe cosmetics.

www.rachelsfriends.org

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they may have some links on their site for other products and research about this in general.

PubMed
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

Search for " endocrine disruptors " - 1202 abstracts

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Seventh Generation and Bi-o-Kleen have sites for natural home cleaning supplies.

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Diedre Imus is pushing for safety of products for childrens' hospitals.

The Deirdre Imus Environmental Center for Pediatric Oncology www.dienviro.com/

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I may come back with some links later that may be of interest.

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No petroleum. The only good use for it is for burn victims for short term protection. It is like wrapping yourself in plastic wrap.

The toxins in mineral oil/petrolatum act as stealth hormones, called xenoestrogen.

Anything applied to the skin is detected in every organ of the body within 26 seconds. Household cleaners without gloves...think about it.

Our systems are already overtaxed, this is one simple change you can make to help it.

Read the labels. If it has the above two ingredients, anything else that is good for you in the product is not getting to where it needs to go due to the liquid shield.

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That 26 seconds for absorption - and people thought I was nuts when I ran a offset printing press once every few weeks in the late 70's. No gloves (I was young and ignorant) and hands in all sorts of solvents.

I could taste the stuff in my mouth nearly as soon as I began working with the solutions. Everyone I asked said it was fine. Others before me did okay. But I became very ill at that time.

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I've also just stopped using anything with Propylene Glycol,
it's even in natural toothpaste. It's a cosmetic form of mineral oil. (Sodium Laurel Sulfate also may be irritating, but that's another subject).

This is not the best article and I can't find my research, but this is just one for thought. I have seen data that suggests there may be a link with cancer and Propylene Glycol (Proop - eh -leen Glii - col)

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www.natural-health-information-centre.com/propylene-glycol.html

excerpt: The Material Safety Data Sheet warns users to avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage.


Propylene Glycol, Alcohol


A colourless, volatile, flammable liquid produced by fermentation of yeast and carbohydrates. Alcohol is frequently used as a solvent. As an ingredient in ingestible products, alcohol may cause body tissues to be more vulnerable to carcinogens.

Mouthwashes with an alcohol content over 25% have been implicated in mouth, tongue and throat cancers. Note, the forms of alcohol used in cosmetics are not necessarily those used in alcoholic drinks, and may be much more dangerous.

Some examples

Ethylene glycol, is commonly used in acrylic paints, brake fluid, antifreeze, tile grout, primer, sealant paste, floor polish, tyre sealant and shoe polish. Oh yes.......and it's also used in some "smoothing lotions" and "firming moisturizer"!

__Known health effects: throat irritation, headache, backache, kidney problems, oedema (swelling), necrosis (cell death). If swallowed, can cause drowsiness, and slurred speech, possibly stupor, vomiting, respiratory failure, coma, convulsions, and death_Found in: skin "firming" lotions.


Propylene Glycol

A cosmetic form of mineral oil found in automatic brake and hydraulic fluid and industrial antifreeze. In the skin and hair, propylene glycol works as a humescent, which causes retention of moisture content of skin or cosmetic products by preventing the escape of moisture or water.

The Material Safety Data Sheet warns users to avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage.


Known health effects.
Eye irritation, skin irritation, skin drying, defatting. Ingestion has serious health effects similar to above.

Propylene glycol is Commonly found in:

_. makeup
_. shampoo
_. deodorant
_. detangler

_. styling mousse
_. cleansing cream
_. mascara
_. soap

_. skin cream
_. bubble bath
_. baby powder
_. conditioner

_. toner
_. after shave
_. baby wipes
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Also in:

_. Tyre sealant
_. Rubber cleaner
_. De-icer
_. Stain removers

_. Fabric softener
_. Degreaser
_. Paint

_. Adhesive
_. Wallpaper stripper_

Propylene Glycol-free products and Recommended product for each category

Chart at link above.

(this may link to particular brands, though, and may be a bit of an advertiser's marketplace. Not sure.)

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I like to use organic coconut oil as a face cream, except in summer when I'm going outside. Bees wax is nice for hands, but I would not wear it out in the woods where there may be bears. (Just as you don't want to burn bees wax candles while camping.)

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Google Search for "endocrine disruptors" 172,000

The first page alone, has some good links.

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www.nrdc.org/health/effects/qendoc.asp

NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL

Endocrine Disruptors
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Full article at link above


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www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/index.cfm

National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences - National Institutes of Health

They have many topics of discussion at their site


Excerpt:

Endocrine Disruptors

Description

Endocrine disruptors are chemicals that may interfere with the body's endocrine system and produce adverse developmental, reproductive, neurological, and immune effects in both humans and wildlife.

A wide range of substances, both natural and man-made, are thought to cause endocrine disruption, including pharmaceuticals, dioxin and dioxin-like compounds, polychlorinated biphenyls, DDT and other pesticides, and plasticizers such as bisphenol A.

Endocrine disruptors may be found in many everyday products- including plastic bottles, metal food cans, detergents, flame retardants, food, toys, cosmetics, and pesticides developmental, reproductive, neurological and immune effects.


cont'd at link above

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www.philoxia.com/survivalcandles.htm

Beeswax candles you can cook with -


I recently made an omlet, cooked quinoa and boiled water with five tiny tealight candles and an iron trivet with keyhole cut outs.
(Le Creuset warming trivet - I just added five candles to it).

Designs on this link, though show a system to cook with the candle in it's tin.

Power had not gone out, but I was experimenting for when that will undoubtedly happen this winter on my hill.

I can't handle the fumes from even unscented petroleum candles, but beeswax candles are fine for me. Nice, even.

many other sites for beeswax candles, but this is the only one with cooking in mind - with the caution not to use this out the woods if bears are anywhere near.

Cheers !

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There's no way to determine at this point

whether or not

one's really been cured, and MANY people relapse, so

you need to play it as safe as possible. I wouldn't use them even if

asymptomatic.

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