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Did anyone see the interview Matt Lauer held this morning with a guy who is taking colloidal silver who has turned blue?
Seems he started ingesting it, and then started applying it to his skin, and it was after the topical application that he turned blue.
Anyway, he started taking it for a bad skin condition that started when his father was dying. But after he started taking it, the dermatitis continued, but the inflammation wend down and so did all his other symptmos, i.e. gastric reflux, arthritis among them.
Made me think all of a sudden that what this guy has is Lyme and co-infections!
joalo
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Didja notice that his hands aren't blue?!?!
Weird!!
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Not all silver will do the blue/grey thing. He attributes his face being blue from putting the silver solution on his face itself.
While not like his face, his hands look somewhat blue against the hands of his wife while they are around the Christmas tree.
argyria - the grey skin reaction - it's a result of using the wrong water for the start of the silver solution. It must be from good distilled water, not tap water.
This guy made his own at home and the source of water or the method he used was not discussed.
He is also so very blue that I wonder if he's not related to the "Blue People of Kentucky" - really. He has reddish hair which was also a trait. You can google the term. If he had the recessive gene, stress or illness - or silver (?) may have triggered that. Just my thought.
Usuallly people with argyria are more grey than this man. I'd like to know more about the specifics of water source, amount and frequency - and what else might have been in his diet or surroundings.
Silver kept me out of a wheel chair when I could barely walk and was falling about 30 x a day. I just took it for a couple months and saw a tremendous improvement - and no, I did not turn into a Smurf!
It's not, however, to be used lightly or without expert advice. The manner of processing it can be the difference in something that can help or harm. And detoxing around all this is key, too.
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I think that suggesting that appropriately manufactured silver products are anything like homemade silver is questionable logic. If someone suggests that they turned blue from Mesosilver, ACS 200, or Argentyn, that would be something worth hearing about.
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. . . Although silver is metabolized throughout the soft tissues, available evidence . . . has failed to unequivocally establish that it enters tissues of the central nervous system or is a cause of neurotoxic damage.
. . . No evidence is available to demonstrate the toxic risk of silver to the peripheral nervous system. . . .
Critical observations on the neurotoxicity of silver. Lansdown AB.
Faculty of Medicine, Investigative Sciences, Imperial College, London. United Kingdom. [email protected]
Silver is a xenobiotic element with no recognized trace metal value in the human body. It is absorbed into the body through the lungs, gastrointestinal tract, mucus membranes of the urinogenital tract, and through the skin, mainly in the form of silver protein complexes.
Although silver is metabolized throughout the soft tissues, available evidence from experimental animal studies and human clinical reports has failed to unequivocally establish that it enters tissues of the central nervous system or is a cause of neurotoxic damage.
Argyria characterized by deposition of particles of silver sulfide or silver selenide is the principle contraindication for using silver in medical devices or occupationally.
[poster's note: the mfg process & source of the water used is the problem, not the silver itself.]
This presents discoloration of the skin but is not regarded as a health risk or manifestation of toxicity.
No evidence is available to demonstrate the toxic risk of silver to the peripheral nervous system, although silver sulfide deposits have been identified in the region of cutaneous nerves.
Transitory silver sulfide deposits seen in the tissues of the blood-brain and blood-CSF barriers are mostly lysosomally bound or deposited on basement membranes or collagen without toxic effect.
Silver is mostly excreted from the body in the urine and feces. Further research is indicated to evaluate the role of metal binding proteins including metallothioneins as cytoprotectants for neurological tissue.
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The blue man was on the show again today after having a complete physical exam - extensive blood work, organs etc.. Everything came back normal. They are waiting for the silver levels. Apparently he's had them done several times before and they've all been normal.
Just thought it was interesting.
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The most interesting thing I have read about turning blue is that this condition can be hereditary. From my reading there is at least one family in KY who has this condition without the use of colloidal silver or any other form of silver.
Even if silver is the cause, please compare the remote odds of getting blue skin from silver to the certain odds of liver damage as determined by official tests of Tylenol in combination with other new pain killers.
Look it up - "liver damage tylenol".
The drug store shelves are bulging with products containing Tylenol. The "experts" pop up here at every mention of silver products. Where is the "expert" outrage to rid the people of evil poisonous Tylenol?
You are losing the battle as more and more countertops, bandaids, disinfectants, etc., are being poisoned with silver every day. If you don't get busy, the world may be filled with blue people. Fortunately, argyria is not fatal as may be liver disease from Tylenol.
I will continue to take colloidal silver as I have for about 10 years. The cyclical infections of chronic Lyme disappeared immediately and the other symptoms of TBDs improved when I began the use of colloidal silver. Obviously, it is not a cureall. But compared to the risks of various antibiotics, colloidal silver is an obvious choice for me.
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The media tends to focus on stories that are outrageous or over the top in some way. I think it's fairly rare that this sort of thing (turning blue from CS) happens as compared to the deaths caused by the medical & pharmaceutical industry.
Like Scott said - if this happened with someone using a major brand of CS, the company producing it would be sued. CS isn't meant to be used excessively & making it at home is not the best idea. You have no idea of how potent it is or if there are contaminants in the water. It may also be that this person has a genetic predisposition to turning blue from it.
I notice that there are many shows on tv about odd medical conditions that effect very few people. It seems rather voyeristic watching shows about these things & how people are suffering. I very rarely see anything on tv that discusses Lyme or other public health concerns that effect alot of people. The media is about sensationalism in America. It's not about helping people to be well.
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If that is me taking silver, it would a short term application, and it would be a most fine silver. The kind thats got such small size, you couldnt make it at home. The at home method is commonly too big and leads to blue. I drank half a bottle once a month ago and didnt notice any herx but I dont know.
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Would major chelation treatments help him? Just wondering.
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TerryK
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I know nothing about the mechanism that causes the skin to turn blue but thats a reasonable idea for him to research. I'm sure he wouldn't hear about it from most allopathic doctors.
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quote:Originally posted by hopingandpraying: Would major chelation treatments help him? Just wondering.
Nope...he's stuck with it.
I THOUGHT he said in a newspaper interview that he had Lyme....but maybe I'm imagining things...??
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Argyria is reversible but it takes a lot of work.
I think there have been fewer than 50 cases of argyria in about 50 years of CS use.
You are more likely to get hit by a piece of falling space debris than turn blue from commercially-produced Colloidal Silver.
Last I checked, there were a whole 12 members at that Yahoo group. I didn't join so I have no idea how many actually turned blue or if they are just concerned about it, or what.
I still take Colloidal Silver (commercial) on occasion and have no qualms about it.
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