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Ellie K
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I doubled my Bicillin shots over Christmas and instantly felt like I "had been hit by a bus," as others have expressed on other posts.

I am on Mepron and Zith too, 2 tsp/day and 500 mg.

It's the most dramatic increase in symptoms taht I've experienced so far in response to adjusting a drug's dosage.

When I first started Mepron I was stopped Bicillin for one month, then added one shot of Bicillin per week back in, to keep the Lyme controlled,. This adjustment didn't noticeably alter my system for 2 months.


Yet doubling to 2.4mu a week has been so awful. I sleep 20 hours a day and all of symptoms have increased exponentially....namely brain fog and pain.

Has anyone else had this occur to them?

Do most people treat co-s alongside Lyme or address each one entirely separately? I'd like to hear people's theories on this subject. It just seems dangerous to me to invest entirely in say, Babs, while letting Lyme replicate freely in your body, only to make things much worse later on when it's time to do Lyme treatment.

I think I may be herxing both and that's why I feel so crappy. I can't separate my symptoms atall. It's really confusing.

I'm swaeting so so much, could this be Lyme too?
Maybe the Bicillin shook the babs up somehow? I can't tell when I'm sleeping or when I'm awake sometimes. Or if it's AM or PM. so out of it!

Sorry for rambling and not making any sense. My mind is a web of snaggly threads and doughy putty mixed together into something not so pretty.

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Ellie K
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Up please for my Bicillin friends. [Big Grin]
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Vermont_Lymie
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Ellie,

Are you sure it is the bicillin, and not the Mepron and zith? Babs treatment with one-third the standard dose of Mepron (one tablet of Malarone) knocked me on my butt for two months.

I had an increase in brain fog and pain also when I went from 1 bicillin shot/week to two. It lasted a couple of months. But nothing has compared in intensity and difficulty with babs treatment!! I think zith also can create fatigue in some folks.

That combo, zith, bicillin and mepron sounds pretty strong and effective, so herxing might be expected? Hope you feel better.

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Ellie, my first 3 months on bicillin were pretty bad. We started at 1 shot every 2.5 days, but it was so unbearably, unrelievedly miserable that our LLMD changed us to 2 shots together every 5 days (2.4 IU every 5 days).

That gave us at least 2 days a week where we could think, move about and wake up.

At first we'd get pretty sick the day after the shot and stay that way for 3 days. Then the herx hit the second day after the shot and was less.

Eventually I stopped reacting to the bicillin at all.

Editing to say that, looking back on my notes, I started mepron/zith/art very before starting bicillin. M/Z/A made me feel completely terrible for about 3 months. Then I started bicillin, which made me feel completely terrible for another 3 months.

The people in our LD group had similar experiences with bicillin. One person in teh group hyper-reacted to the bicillin itself (not die off) and had to stop it entirely, so that is something to consider.

Bicillin was very effective for me in the long run.

Good luck.

[ 09. January 2008, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: minoucat ]

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Rianna
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I could not tollerate more than 1.2MU Bicillin per week and then took a weeks break every 6 weeks to clear the toxins
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I started up very slowly following a protocol used in Dr. B's office at one point. It was once a week for four doses, then every six days for four doses, then every five days for four doses, until I reached three times a week. It seems like I herxed almost continuously for the first year. That was a while ago and now I am basically asymptomatic.

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