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This is something I've been wondering about...
Does anyone else experience the sensation of rushing adrenaline and panic every morning? It starts as soon as I wake up and does not fade for several hours. I feel like my whole body is a clenched fist.
It happens when I wake up naturally on my own, or to an alarm clock.
Has been happening for several years, whether I am on abx or not, so I don't see any connection with a certain treatment protocol.
Does anyone else have this feeling every morning? And what can be done about it?
Thanks!
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Anxiety is one of the symptoms I hear of lots. I used to have Anxiety attacks, but mine was from a chemical disorder. Gone now, thank GOD!
It was the worst thing ever. I would get something until you get your bacteria load down. My Daughter has Babs and she says it is what causes her anxiety.
I think it all causes it! Ask your LLMD for something to control it, it sure makes life a bit easier if you don't have the anxiety along with everything else you have to deal with.
Just my opinion..............do what you have to do.
Hugs,
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I totally agree about having your adrenals checked, but sometimes what sets off an over reaction of the adrenals is hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) Do you eat breakfast? If not, start doing so, and see if that helps. Also, a small well-balanced snack before bed time may help. Also try increasing your B complex dosage.
I had the same problem you describe in the evenings for years and recently it switched to mornings. It turned out my morning cortisol had gone back to normal for the first time since being ill. I still have chills every evening between 7-9 PM, but am no longer hyped up along with the chills.
It would not hurt to check your blood pressure as well. Mine was soaring during these episodes and I am now on medication for it to prevent a stroke.
For me the solution to the hyped feeling was a gram of L-tryptophan at bed time and another gram of it at 3 am, but I know I am deficient in serotonin, and you may not be. We are all different, and it may take some investigation to figure out what is causing your problem.
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Just thought I'd share my own personal experience. I occasionally experience what you describe. I also have diagnosed Hypoadrenia (adrenal exhaustion). I've been told by my treating doctors that the panic, rushing feelings and even tachycardia can be attributed to my adrenal exhaustion. My adrenal glands simply don't produce enough cortisol -- I have a cortisol deficiency.
Since getting my bartonella infection diagnosed, I've also attributed those symptoms to bart as well. Again, that's just my own assumption based on reading about bart symptoms.
As to what can be done about this symptom . . . I'm still trying to figure it all out myself.
As to the hypoglycemia suggestion, I just thought I'd share that adrenal exhaustion can also cause hypoglycemia-type symptoms. When the adrenals aren't able to produce all the hormones necessary, one's regulation and metabolism with sugars can be effected. I've had doctors recommend to me to take a protein snack before bedtime (i.e., something like a protein meal replacement drink) to help carry the body through the fasting time while sleeping.
Hope this helps.
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And I had this for 6 months last year until we got bartonella under control...for me, it seems to be related to this TBD.
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My cortisol levels were waaay high in the morning-I take Seriphos before bed, and eat a protein snack.
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Anxiety and depression is always predominate in the mornings. I get my worse anxiety when I wake up. Heart racing etc.
My ND explained to me that our toxic load is highest when we wake up. Toxins keep the body off balance. Since I've been doing some good detox, it's less in the mornings.
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For those of you who had their adrenals tested...what type of doctor ordered the tests? My LLMD said she doesn't know mcuh about this and that I should see a
alternative/complimentary doctor for this. (I did this in the past-he ordered a saliva test which showed something off w/the cortisol/DHEA
ratio, which is suggestive of hypoglycemia-which I have). Anyway, my levels were in the range, but I'm wondering if I should have seen an
endocrinologist instead. Alot of my symptoms are suggestive of adrenal exhaustion and I would like to try low dose cortisol. I also feel that
I am borderline hypothyroid, although my blood tests are normal (morning temperature is 97.6). Any suggestions? Thanks.
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I had this sensation for probably about 8 months.
It came and went through Lyme, baronella and babesia treatment.
I felt like I was always late for something.
Have to rush to go......rush to do things.....Couldn't settle down.
It wasn't my adrenals at the time. Not sure which infection or all,
But I rarely have this symptom anymore.
I am hypothyroid too.
Hang in there.
Hugs,
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I DREAD the mornings. Since starting treatment for my Bart, I've sobbed uncontrollably every morning for almost 3 mos.
Nothing in particular will set it off...I just feel this intangible anxiety, then I get scared, then I start to hysterically cry.
It lasted almost 3 hours this morning...it's exhausting, absolutely exhausting.
After 5pm, I'm a totally different person: calm, hopeful, optimistic, etc.
It's so bizarre and scary. At least, NOW, I know it will pass...yet it will be back. I guess I'll know I'm better when it doesn't come back.
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amk33, my conventional internal medicine doctor was the first of my physicians to test for adrenal exhaustion. He did blood tests and also the adrenal saliva stress tests. Evidently the saliva tests are the Gold Standard for testing adrenal function.
My results came back looking like a near flat line on the graph. Low, low, cortisol and also low DHEA. I'm having to supplement with both now.
My holistic gynecologist also has retested my adrenal function at yearly check ups. So I have two docs keeping an eye out on the condition.
If your LLMD is not comfortable dealing with it then by all means, seek out someone who can help you with it. You could try contacting a compounding pharmacy in your area and ask if they could recommend any physicians in your area that deal with hormone balancing such as adrenal and thyroid. Lots of times those compounding pharmacies can have good recommendations.
Clarissa, I've experienced those same symptoms with Bart treatment. It's terrifying, isn't it?
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FuzzySlippers,
It IS terrifying. The other day it was so bad I didn't think I'd live through it. I started thinking about who I'd leave my IRA money to.
The darkness and despair is inexplicable. It's like living in a horror film.
I believe it's a Bart herx because I don't remember this level of morning anxiety with my Lyme treatment 5 years ago.
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I've been waking up with major anxiety, mostly just the past couple of months. I think this is my bart symptoms coming back. It's a really new thing for me. I'll have paranoid, racing thoughts about the dumbest things.
One thing that also occurred to me was that perhaps my antibiotic levels are dipping then, as I don't space my amoxicillin doses exactly 8 hours apart since I sleep more than 8 hours. Other than that, I have nothing helpful to say except that I have this symptom too!
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Its bart... Once you get the bart under control it will go away.. i went through it for almost a year every morning..
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Kelly: Thanks for the validation...I had a strong feeling that it was Bart because I just do not remember this happening when treating my Lyme 5-years ago.
quote:Originally posted by Clarissa: [Q] I DREAD the mornings. Since starting treatment for my Bart, I've sobbed uncontrollably every morning for almost 3 mos.
Nothing in particular will set it off...I just feel this intangible anxiety, then I get scared, then I start to hysterically cry.
It lasted almost 3 hours this morning...it's exhausting, absolutely exhausting.
After 5pm, I'm a totally different person: calm, hopeful, optimistic, etc.
It's so bizarre and scary. At least, NOW, I know it will pass...yet it will be back. I guess I'll know I'm better when it doesn't come back. [/Q]
I am EXACLTY the same, minus the crying. But my mornings are hell and by 4-5 PM, I am a diff person as well. Weird huh!
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Thanks Fuzzy (cute name ). I will see if there is a compounding pharmacy near me to ask. I just took my temperature for the fun of it and
it is 97.6. It's always low. I just know there is some sort of Throid/adrenal/encocrine thing going on. Hopefully I can find some evidence of this!
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Update: The past two mornings, I woke up around 3-4am togo to the bathroom. I randomnly decided to take my probiotics at that time so I wouldn't have to deal with the morning probiotic-breakfast-antibiotic 2-hour-buffer.
BOTH mornings (when I officially woke up around 8:30am-9:00) were NON-crying mornings and I didn't have that hysterical/anxious feeling.
The only changed variable was taking my probiotics at that weird time.
Who the heck knows? Just thought I'd throw it out there because it was SUCH a relief to have a 2 day respite from that morning horror.
Keep you posted as I pretty much always get up early am togo to bathroom...will keep up the routine to see if the pattern sticks.
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Clarissa! you sound EXACTLY like me...that is EXACTLY what would happen to me....my family was like, who are you??? you are a jekyll and hyde!
it has gotten SO MUCH BETTER since I got underway with bart treatment and added a half-dose of Lexapro (probably don't even need this anymore). BART SUCKS!!
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Yes, this morning hell MUST be Bart...we're all having this in common.
I'm so glad others can relate because sometimes I feel certifiably c-r-a-z-y. It's like an emotional rollercoaster within hours, within the same day.
I avoid talking to friends anytime before 3pm because I sense an intervention would take place.
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yes i also have terrible anxiety and nervousness but the mornings are the worst, so tense, too many racing thoughts, feel so rushed when no reason to feel that way, its nice to know i am not the only one! i know i have lyme and babs, but not sure about bart, i hope we all get some relief! Radha
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