Tincup
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For the life of me I could NOT understand why my wrists.. one at a time or both.. hurt more than normal and have a lot of sharp pain on/off when I go to Florida.
And it happens ONLY when I am in Florida.
For as long as I can remember this has been happening.
???
TODAY I figured out why!
I am so sure no one could figure this out that I'll kiss Wormser if you can guess what is causing this to happen.
stymielymie
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INTERESTING POINT:
if you do not live at sea level ie florida then your normal barometric pressure is lower.
when i was at our mountain house the normal barometric pressure was 960mb the lowest reported pressure in florida was, wilma at 988.
i had no pain in my knees in mountains.
theory. lower barometric pressure at constant rate ie years at lower pressure would make your body acclimated to the lower pressure. going to a higher pressure, sea level would make your joints hurt due to more force pushing in the body and more pressure pressing out from the body.
however if you get a low drop in barometric pressure this would tend to cause most peoples joints to hurt ie.weather front moving in. this i can't explain, but everybody here gets pain when it rains.
so my long point is stay in you own darn state. you didn't even come by to say hello.
i would have splurged for lunch or dinner.
so in conclusion : i don't know anything more than you do.
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sixgoofykids
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Is it from getting up and down from lying on the beach?
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The heat destroys me and makes me physically sick and achy all over.
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Is it from secretly riding all those scary rides at Disney World and having to hang on way too tight your muscles in your wrist spasm?!!! Posts: 983 | From FL | Registered: Dec 2002
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When the 'critter' bangs under your camper in middle of nite,,,
you bolt upright using your hands and wrists to force you to sit upright,,,FAST!!
Case closed!!!
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sixgoofykids
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Okay, related to my last guess, sitting on your towel on the beach, leaning back on your hands for support .... your wrists get tired.
Or, throwing a Frisbee .... but I doubt that because can anyone really throw with either hand causing BOTH wrists to hurt?
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Tincup
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HA!
You all are making me laugh and I guess that is what I wanted to see.
Doc Dave... after several days on the road.. NO ONE would want to see me. I limped in with an overloaded 20 year old truck piled so full you couldn't see the front from the back end.. and I was snowed on, rained on and the wind about blew me off the highway the whole time.
Plus it was COLD all the way. NOT a good trip.
But.. not sure what area you are in?
If lunch is still possible... I like fish sandwiches.
Sixgoofy...
That DOES make wrists hurt, doesn't it. Ouch big time. But that isn't it. Good try though!
HA! Acorn you make me giggle. You look "cool".
Aniek...
FUNNY one!!! And what you say about not enough V-8 is true.. but sorry.. not the right answer. hehehe
Lifeline...
That WOULD do it too! Gotta laugh.. as that HAS happened in the past. Even now.. just watching others on those rides causes me to clentch up!
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My guess is: from all the driving and gripping the steering wheel.
or
If someone else is driving, then its from grabbing the dash or the door handles, like when going too fast around curves...Or having the brakes jammed on cause the car in front of you suddenly stopped.
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Geneal
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The steering wheel.
That was a good guess.
Hugs,
Geneal
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sixgoofykids
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From something not fun? Okay, it was definitely GOLF!
Or, you get sore wrists from holding everyone else's stuff while they do something fun!
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sizzled
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Driving, unpacking, cleaning, doing more now that you are in better weather?
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map1131
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I think you should go to shoreline west of Florida and see if your wrists hurt?
Let's see you would start in Alabama. Then Mississippi? Then Louisana? Then Texas?
I didn't look at a map. Well, just the hurricane maps in my mind. That's scarey. I hope I didn't get my map wrong?
Pam
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AliG
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Is it gone completely & immediately when you return from Florida?
Do you always go at the same time of year?
How many people do you go with & what are their ages?
Are you camping while down there?
What part of Florida are you going to?
Could it be from hoisting an umbrella to block the sun or pulling a cooler? Maybe carrying a heavier than usual handbag? Or holding a camera? I think someone may have already said shielding your eyes from the sun??
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Michelle M
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From having to use a LAPTOP to access LymeNet!!
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Aniek
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From NOT doing something fun?
From not being on Lymenet?
Not so much of a stretch actually. When my hands and wrists hurt, typing makes them feel better. It's something about getting the fingers moving.
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From hauling all the ice cream to your house to eat while no one is looking!
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sometimesdilly
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well, i like Geneal's guesses best, and just don's too, but no, huh?
ok, let me think. wrist pain while in florida. hmm.
can't be humidity, 'cause lord knows we git enough of THAT around here when you're here.
and i assume it can't be from flipping the bird more down there, because you're too righteous to hurt yourself being vulgar.
ok, is it because you are wearing your wrists out from slathering on so much bug and tick repellant every day?
or from turning your sheets and towels over so often looking for crawling critters?
eh? dilly
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Tincup
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heeeee heee heeeee
You all are FUN EEEEEEE!!!
All guesses took some thought.. and all are good.
And ONE person now is sooooooooo close I should give it up.
Actually.. I think no one could have come that close... but they did!
What do you say? Is the game over?
Wanna know the answer?
And.. most important..
Does the one with the closest answer have to kiss Wormser?
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Betcha it's the Barometric pressure. That year there were so many hurricanes in FL was affecting many Lymies in Michigan (including me) and my doctor's nurse thought it was from Barometric pressure. I get strange symptoms like that in FL too.
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Finding my happy place.
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AliG
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Carrying a camera IN your handbag?
LOL
Wait! - Video Recorder??
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AliG
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quote:Originally posted by Tincup:
Wanna know the answer?
And.. most important..
Does the one with the closest answer have to kiss Wormser?
I WANNA KNOW!!!!
and
NO!!!!!!!!! That's just TOO gross!!! (then again, that depends on WHO got it right! )
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You have an ergonomic keyboard at home, but not wherever you are in Florida?
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map1131
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This is one cruel woman. First off I'm in Ky where it is fricking cold. I hate winter. Tincup is probably on the beach with the sun in her face.
Some people are no fun to play with.
Pam
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sixgoofykids
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They are especially not fun when they make you WAIT SO LONG FOR AN ANSWER!!!
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AliG
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Tincup, W A K E U P ! ! !
Wake up, Wake up, wherever you are!!!!!!!!
Quit teasing us woman!
This has become cruel & unusual torture. You KNOW I have NO patience!!!!!!!!!!
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sometimesdilly
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yeah- what Ali said...
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Truthfinder
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Aw, TC, please don't tell me it is from all the addtional Vitmain D you are getting from more sunshine....
Well, before your wrists get too bad, at least go catch a Tarpon down in Islamorada (sp). That dang fish was bigger than I was!
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It is the vitamin D from sunshine AND the barometric pressure increase AND the temperature: the joint linings (synovia) can make the 1 alpha hydroxylase that converts 25 hydroxy vitamin D into 1,25 dihydroxy vitamin D, so when you get into the sun, your skin makes chloecalciferol in the subcutaneous fat, the cholecalciferol is more soluble when the temp is high, and the increase in barometric pressure exerts more force on the lymphatic fluid to drive it into the bloodstream. The liver can handle the extra D, but the kidneys can't because you are dehydrating yourself in that heat, so the joint 1 alpha hydroxylase is upregulated to compensate, but in the joints that you just strained gripping the steering wheel on what sounds like a white knuckle ride. Either that or you are putting on so much sunscreen that your vitamin D isn't going up but the brain is expecting it to because of the light sensitive Pineal gland being overstimulated AND you're overtaxing the liver with oil soluble toxin from the Sea & Ski, so the vitamin D doesn't hydroxylate and stays low; the strained wrists are trying to upregulate the conversion of D locally to treat themselves.
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Marnie
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UVB (sunny FL) increases ROS. (So does far infrared!)
ROS = Reactive oxygen species = free radicals.
Got that?
Pycnogenol (antioxidant).
Also...about the barometric pressure changes....can/likely destroys cell wall *deficient* forms.
Many of us - even those without Bb, but likely harboring OTHER pathogens - have aches and pains when the barometer changes. I think this is where Mother Nature helps us out.
1st step to destroying a pathogen is to destroy the protein cell wall/s then osmotic (or I suspect barometric) pressure changes help to "finish the job".
Likely also tied into NO (nitric oxide) + oxygen + barometric pressure levels which are inter-related.
Fascinating...and an easy read.
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stymielymie
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i know, i know. its from lifting her hat at all the good looking men on the beach. lifting those beer bottles to the sky and shaking hands with my good friend donny.
were you on donnies boat without me????
where are you in fl????
docdave
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sometimesdilly
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stymie-
careful not to guess TOO well.
the winner has to kiss The Worm, you know.
pickles
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Tincup
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Well pucker up Ms. Dill Pickle..
YOU get to kiss the Worm!
I do believe Dilly came the closest.
But YOU decide if she has to kiss the worm!
HA!
When I am in Florida... I automatically.. without even thinking about it... do something I don't do up north.
Everytime I change clothes, pick up a blanket, get clothes from the dresser or closet, pick up a towel, move a pillow, or pick up my shoes..
I shake them hard with a snapping motion a few times to be sure there are no scorpions in them.
THAT IS WHY MY WRISTS HURT IN FLORIDA!
Now isn't that a STUPID reason?
Snapping for scorpions!!! Who'd a thunk?
The luckiest day of my life so far was when I actually FOUND the scorpion BEFORE putting on my panties.
Whew... close call that day!
I've caught at least six of the little critters.. been zapped 3 times.. and since nothing can get rid of them.. it is just something I live with.
I am amazed that I never figured that out till NOW!
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I had no idea there were scorpions in Florida!
Hugs,
Geneal
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quote:Originally posted by Geneal: I had no idea there were scorpions in Florida!
Hugs,
Geneal
Oh, yes .... my mom had one crawl across her foot when she was a kid and was in a shower at the local pool ... she stood very still until it was off her foot, then screamed!
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sometimesdilly
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Oh man!! i was closest??!!
waah. but i don't WANT to kiss the Worm.
1- i was just JOKING. 2- it wasn't really me 3- the dill pickle did it.
yah. that'll work. the dill pickle did it.
sometimes me
ps- scorpions in your PANTIES??!! and you go to FL because WHY??!!!
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hahahaha. this thread has me cracking up. i needed that today. thanks tincup!!
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