Topic: B12,Methylcobalamin, Injections better than Oral?
Silverwolf
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With no LLMD at this time, no finances to speak of,and no insurance,I've been using -KAL- Oral B-12 chewable tabs-1000 mcgs.
Injections were mentioned to me in Gen. Sup.,can one get B12 methylcobalamin injections,and w/o a prescription?
Are they spendy? If they are I'll have to do the best I'm able w/the Oral B12s,and the Saventaro, I also use an Acidophilus mix.
The sudden surgery for TxC's eye,took our moneies for the vitamins etc. so we'll get more as soon as able.
Thot I'd check options,thanks for any tho'ts and ideas from all who post.
My brain is addled right now,so am hopefully being understandable..and more clear than mud?
Just dingy Silverwolfn'
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lymebytes
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Hi, I do methylcobalamin injections and love them. They protect the nervous system and have been shown to cure bells palsy in trials, they help you regulate a sleep schedule and on and on.
Oral or even sublingual b12 vitamins are not as good because they don't absorb into the blood stream as well. According to my LLMD they are in and out via the urine within hours.
No better are cyancobalamine injections, as they are extremely weak, contain aluminum & the body must work to conver it to methylcobalamin. Here is info on the b12 shots. Burrascano recommends only methylcobalamin: http://tinyurl.com/2j3g6n
However, I don't know anything about these but they now make a b12 transdermal patch. I think it is worth checking into, here is one site and its description the patch & why orals aren't the best: http://www.b12patch.com/about-b12patch.html
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Another option if you cannot afford B12 injections is a product called "spray for life" It's a nano particle sized b12 and is absorbed better than the sublinguals.(so I've heard)
It comes in a spray bottle, you can google the name to get info.
I plan on doing this in the future d/t cost of the methyl b12 just to see if it helps. My compounded Methyl inj were costing me over 80 bucks a month.
Just FYI
Maybe someone else has tried this and can comment?
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Aniek
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If you can't afford the injections, you want to sublingual and not chewable. The sublingual go directly into the salivary glands and are absorbed better than chewable.
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Injections are definitely superior to oral or sublingual b12. However, if you can't get them for whatever reason. Your best bet is probably these jarrow 5mg sublingual b12's.
They are methylcobalamin and 5mg (5,000mcg). They also don't contain any sorbitol or any other stupid fillers that generally feed bacteria or yeast organisms.
You would probably want to take 2-3 at once, to try to reach the 10mg immediate dose that most people are taking intramuscularly. The high doses (10-25mg daily) are shown to cause nerve regeneration. I doubt that will happen significantly with lower doses, and also less so when not taken via injection.
Yes though, you do need a prescription for b12 injections. They are pretty affordable where I get them (http://www.mcguffpharmacy.com/) (about ~$20-25 a vile, with 30 10mg doses). Plus the cost of the needles (which was pretty cheap at local drugstore).
Methylcobalamin injections make a huge difference in how I feel from day to day. What I typed is just my opinion and I'm obviously not a doctor. Good luck!
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I tried methyl B12 sublingual and they were not nearly as effective as the injections. Perscriptions are required for both kinds that I receive. The B12 I get is 50 per bottle. I have to say that B12 injections improved my nerve pain significantly and they also give me energy.
Hope this helps, Lindsay
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treepatrol
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Silverwolf get the b12 shots you will see a difference. Your probaly like me intrinsic factor shot from abxs over the years .
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I do methyl B12 shots and I really like them. I get mine from a compounding pharmacy and they're not that expensive.
I believe they're about $4 per shot. I do them 2x a week, so it's not that bad. But I don't have to "make" the shots...they come to me already filled and ready to go.
They're great! And, yes, you need a prescription.
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Silverwolf
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Thanks for info' and comments <<<<< Lymer Friends >>>>>,
After we get TxC's post-op check-up on his eye surgery done on Friday[ 2-15-'08 ]. Perhaps we can start looking for an LLMD/ND again.
If we can find one that will take us w/ our extreme limited budget,I'll check on the B-12 injections.
The eye situation and our warning that we are about to lose our job [haven't resigned yet from the church mess],sorta took the wind out of our sails .
Thanks for the helpful replies... I hate being so weary,especially now w/ TxC blind in rt.eye. For now.I'm managing w/ The B-12 Methylcobalamon chewables/sublinguals.
We found a place about 25 minutes from us, instead of over an hour that carries my B-12's from KAL.
Jus' Sleepy Silverwolfn'
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Methylcobalamin injections (prescription) combined with low-dose melatonin (store bought) helped my sleep considerably. I do them daily. They're kind of expensive at the dose I'm doing but most people do less than I do.
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map1131
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From what I've read and learned on B-12... it's hard for the body to absorb the B-12 it needs. That's why it suppose to be better to do sublingual. Under the tongue slow absorbtion into your system.
If you can't do injections, at least try the sublingual B-12. Also due to body not being able to easily absorb B-12, might be why I found out after a few years that taking 500mcg was not nearly enough for me. Then I realized 1000 mcg was not enough for me within a few months.
When I started 3000 mcg a day or at least 5 days a week, I finally noticed more energy and a difference in me.
Everyone is different. Most everything we try from abx to supplements is different from person to person. Just because my LLMD rx'ed me flagyl 250mg a day, didn't mean I went there. It didn't take me but a few days to know that.
In fact within 2 weeks, I realized just taking one 250mg a day was not in my body's best interest. I then went to a sliver a day. Even had to pulse that sometimes.
Pam
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