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I just had an MRI done. I could feel the vibrations of different settings in various places, like my hands, even though the MRI was supposed to be focussed on my neck.
It felt like my brain was swelling toward the end of the procedure, and I've had a splitting headache since then.
I'm wondering if this is related to infections, like lyme? I certainly wasn't expecting to have pain from having an MRI done. It isn't reported in the literature.
It seems to me that there was discussion here comparing MRI to rifing, but I couldn't find it using the search mechanism.
My husband had an MRI on his knee and never felt anything like I did.
Would appreciate any feedback.
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How long did your headache last? Do you think it's related to lyme, since there's nothing mentioned in the general literature about it being a possibility?
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This has been reported quite a few times from people with Lyme disease.
If the MRI happens to hit a particular frequency that Lyme is sensitive to, it can cause herx like reactions.
I think there should be a general warning about this possibility. Luckily, the frequencies are much higher than known Lyme frequencies, but if it ever had a direct hit on the bacteria , it could produce die off like nothing else all at once.
It would be relatively easy to use a MRI as a Rife machine since it is a frequency producing device used in a different manner.
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Wait...so would this die-off be a good thing, or just too darn
dangerous
(I know someone who almost
died from a massive relapsing fever herx, but then recovered
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I suppose it would be a good thing except it could be far too much die off at once. This is thousands of times more powerful than any Rife machine. I shudder to think what could happen to a very sick person with the wrong frequency.
Luckily, they are not running frequencies in the audio range. It is not out of the question that there could be a very high effective Lyme frequency either.
I am guessing they are either killing some by the powerful magnetic field, or hitting a frequency that is somewhat effective at that high power.
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sorry to read this; i had them put me completely under by anesthiologist! everything that could go wrong did!
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Ok after reading this I'm freaking. I am having an MRI on Wednesday. I unfortunately will have to deal with the headache I guess but I want to change topic.
I've tried searching here and I'm sure there is an abundance of info out there on what I'm going to ask, but I don't have the energy to research.
But what I did think I found was that the MRI can show 'white stuff' (sorry - dont know the medical term i read) which will detect MS lesions (?) but also these same lesions cannot be distinguished from Lyme lesions ???
So if I do show lesions then am I getting MS because of Lyme.
I know the Babesia is flaring yet some very unusual neurological things are also going on. That's why the MRI.
So i did a little research comparing the two but really didn't get an answer as to if I will get MS because of Lyme -- because the MRI lesions will show the same result for MS and Lyme. Correct ?
What's up with that? Do I have to worry now about MS ? Or if lesions show will another treatment protocol for Lyme be in order? (which i'm already starting a bit of a change now because of what's happening) - and sorry I don't want to get into it.
Anyone have any info on the two and does this (MS possibility) happen to all Lyme patients when the neurological crap starts happening ? I really don't need anything else wrong with me.
Thanks and sorry for changing topic on an already existing post but I just did cuz this is the only MRI post I could find.
Thanks digirl02
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My understanding is that the lesions can be from either MS or Lyme. They have other tests that attempt to separate the two diseases. They still can be misdiagnosed for each other.
MS could be caused by a different strain of Borrelia but that is not known for sure. Some use the Marshall Protocol to treat either.
If it turns out to be MS, look into Low Dose Naltrexone as a treatment. It halts the progression of the disease in many cases. I take it for Crohn's disease. It also helps somewhat for some cases of Lyme, but not as much.
The MRI's do not affect most people, so do not worry too much about it.
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Yeah, no headache from mine either.
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You say there are other tests to test for MS but they too can also be misdiagnosed ??? If this is right then how would i know if i have MS and to start the Nal... ? I guess that's my concern how would you know ? Lyme or MS ? Maybe I'll just search MS without the Lyme and see what shows ?? ie, other tests, symptoms, etc.
Guess I'll just let my LLMD keep telling me how to proceed too. Step by step he's been the best.
Thanks for you input I appreciate it.
Thanks you too adamm - hopefully i won't get the headache.
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MS is a condition to which there is no absolute way of a 100% diagnosis. MS is mainly a collection of symptoms. I am not an expert on MS, but my sister in law was bit by a Deer Tick had Lyme, was treated and now they are looking for MS. She obviously still has Lyme, but that is not obvious to medical professionals.
They staunchly believe once you are treated for Lyme, you cannot have it any more. Fortunately, her symptoms are relatively minor at this time.
I personally have given up on the diagnosis or treatment by physicians. It simply wastes too much time unless you are lucky to find a real good one. I do not recommend this for most people, but I do think in the mean time it is a good idea to treat it with whatever methods available to you. If MS is caused by a similar bacteria, and I think it is likely, then you can treat it the same way.
Check out this site. Here is an excerpt.
She identified two different species of L-form bacteria in patients with Parkinson's Disease. The L- form species of Borrellia burgdoferi was detected in patients with Lyme disease. She cultured serum from forty patients with multiple sclerosis and found a different species of the borrelia L-form present in her samples. Soon after, she detected Chlamydia pneumonia in the blood of patients who had suffered a pulmonary thrombosis. She also found bacteria that resembled M. tuberculosis in the blood of patients with the lung disease sarcoidosis.
Low Dose Naltrexone is about the safest drug you could use. If you cannot be sure if it is Lyme or not, then it may make sense to play it safe and use it. Especially if you start to lose your ability to walk. LDN can stop symptoms where they are, but usually do not reverse them.
I wish I knew more about MS, but my focus has been on Lyme disease, and I have not studied it in depth.
Good Luck on the MRI.
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