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CatWoman
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I have yeast. I know I have yeast. SO where is the yeast? It's not showing up on the tests. My doctor's data test just came back negative for yeast (any yeast at all). But it did show I have Citrobacter freundii; Enterococcus faecalis and Lactobacillus spp.

Wish I knew why my yeast tests are negative. I'm on the oral nystatin liquid (yes I know it has sugar but this is the medication my doctor gave me because I have such bad oral yeast).

I'm so puzzled as to how I can have so much yeast yet the tests are negative. Yes I'm sure it's yeast! So where is it on the tests?

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Tincup
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I've come to the conclusion that basically, the tests suck.

I have yeast and don't show on the tests either. Not has many.. if any people I know had a positive test.

I don't know why. Perhaps some IDSA person wanted to make some xtra bucks for their trip to Aruba and just tossed out the first semblence of a test they could find... and put them on the market so we would pay for them and they could fatten their wallets.

Of course that is only a guess.. and my opinion.

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cantgiveupyet
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do you know what yeast strains they tested for?

MDL has a new one swab test for yeast, Quest is the best at finding my yeast via culture, but my Dr has it grow for about three weeks.

Also, the entero and the lactobicillis possibly could cause yeast like symptoms. If they are overgrown.

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Gabrielle
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The tests are not really good. If the coating on your tongue goes away with the Nystatin then it is yeast.

If not: a white coated tongue does not necessarily mean yeast. It just shows that your gut flora is in disbalance but it could be from bad bacteria and not yeast.

Mine is coated but Nystatin doesn't help. In the contrary - it makes the coating worse.

Gabrielle

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i;m in the same boat. Dr's data said no yeast, no acid , no probiotics in my stomach.

My llmd does a muscle test and says I have yeast everywhere expect my pancreas and gall bladder (woo hoo!)

i don't know who to believe anymore and am on a diet already....

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CatWoman
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Thanks for replying. Ok I didn't know the tests aren't so good. Good to know.

The nystatin does help my oral yeast. I am certainly better off than I was when I was standing over the toilet spitting up yeast for half the day (it was just this stringy stuff pouring out of me - wish I'd culture THAT stuff!). I was off all antifungals for at least a week prior to taking my samples.

Yeah I've definitely got yeast. I don't know much about the entero. stuff.

Oral antibiotics don't seem to help me at all.

I am better off on the nystatin. How will I know when it is time to resume treatment again?

I want to start treatment again. I feel like I am backsliding or maybe I'm not and today is just a bad day.

I am still having those "spells" or "episodes" or whatever you want to call it where I suddenly start puking out of no where; crying hysterically; panicking; shaking; slight fever (but feel freezing cold sometimes); can't speak (the speech disturbances always go along with the crying and vomiting like crazy stuff). I end up on the bathroom floor sobbing hysterically gagging and I start wretching violently. I also have at these times (but not always) felt incredibly weak to the point where I fall down to the floor. It is very dramatic. It happened a few days ago but it wasn't as severe as the last time it happened.

It seems to come on suddenly and just go away pretty quickly and I am exhausted afterward.

It *sounds* like toxin overload HOWEVER the last time I had it I had no nausea all day I didn't feel too bad and then it just hit me.

I wonder - is it an allergy?
is it a parasite?
is it related to neurotoxins?
is it one of the bacteria Dr's Data isolated?
Is it leaky gut syndrom?
Is it yeast toxins?

etc etc etc

I search google and my symptom journal until I give up. I wish I knew. It sounds like it could be an allergy? To me the most likely thing is neurotoxins.

I've had these episodes in the past in the summer on Tinidazole too. That's when my speech problems started. Never in my life did I have speech problems before tinidazole.

Maybe it is related to brain inflammation? My spect scan showed moderately severe hypoperfusion. I have made DEFINITE progress on rocephin and I really want back on it ASAP but I don't want to take something that's going to make me worse in the long run (ie I don't want to have to go off it again because of yeast explosion in 2 weeks time).

Um yeah I need to ask my doctor all these questions.

Has ANYONE had episodes like the ones I've described?

I really would like to hear from someone who has had these episodes.

I had it on tinidazole, I had it on Rocephin and now I've had it off rocephin (been off rocephin a few weeks).

The episodes always scare me no matter how many times they happen. It is freaky.

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