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NMN
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Hi..One of my main problems before treatment was sinus infections. After starting meds I didnt have one for nearly a year and then after 3 months on doxy it started again. Anyone have any ideas what could be the cause?

I am pulsing 1500mg of amox right now to keep it at bay until my Igenex results come back and I can start a new treatment. My llmd said to stop treatment for 4 weeks but within days I am in bed with flu and sinus infection. Bart or lyme?? I think I herxed like crazy for the first 8 months of treatment. Doc wants me on IV ricephin but I'm worried that if its Bart then I need to treat if first. Any thoughts?

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no answers but up for day shift to read and hopefully you will get some answers.

have you tried using the SEARCH found at top; works quite well. [Wink]

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It could be fungal. And if so, doxy will only add to the problem. 2 mos of Diflucan turned me into a new person.

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NMN
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lymeinhell what dose was that you took for Diflucan.....It bloody expensive online but I found a cheap generic one thats affordable. I have been wondering maybe I should treat yeast. Its definitley been an issue for me thats for sure.....itchy skin...I wash out my mouth into a glas every morning to see whats up and its like a glass of milk sometimes. Icckk!! Actually my initial infection was preceeded by a big yeast infection come to think of it. Worth a go??

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If it's coming back within a few days, I would suspect a coinfection rather than Lyme. My LLMD told me that Lyme takes longer than that to come back.

It sounds like yeast could be the problem, too.

I get "fluish" from bart.

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Mayo Clinic discovers fungi is cause of chronic sinusitis

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990910080344.htm

lymeinhell is right. You probably need an antifungal.

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I think it's fungal as well.

Be sure to keep your diet void of sugar and anything that will feed the yeast. This will greatly help you. Dairy will also increase mucus so best to avoid.

Also nasal irrigations with a neti pot will keep those sinuses clear.

I know.... I was the sinus queen [Frown]

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Hi there,

There is a compounded nasal spray for serious sinus infections. It has both gentramicin for bacteria, and amphetaricin B for fungal. A couple of my friends have had amazing results with this, more than IV's.

Let me know if you want more info on it!

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Anneke,

Could you please e-mail me with the information
about the spray? I am interested.

Also, your mailbox is full.

Thank you.
Di

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Thanks everyone....I am actually using a cortosteriod nasal spray that works well right now nasanex or something. I know steroids are not ideal but I think it a necesary evil right now. I have used steroid drops on and off for my eye for over a year.

I do think yeast needs to be addressed too and I also think Bart is a big player here. Can I take diflucan whilst on antibiotics??? Also Can I take levaquin whilst on ricephin?? I am going on IV regardless so I want to get this right this time. This is my kitchen sink if you know what I mean. My big push for freedom. [Smile]

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NMN, that's a really good question, bart or lyme? Sure would take someone very vector borne literate to study that specific super bacteria in living in your sinus cavity.

It might not be bart or lyme. It might be another super bacteria living and playing heck in your sinus cavity.

Super bacteria that we are made aware of today besides lyme & bart? Strep or staph just to name a few that are very difficult to kill.

Today's abx have been taken over by the super bacteria(s)? I know it, because I've lived it.

Might be some other creature besides a bacteria? Might be a unknown parasite or unknown virus. Therefore what's the abx doing for you?

Your immune system could be falling apart or non-existant. These unknowns are very territorial. One goes somewhere in your body and hangs out, while the other one plays havoc. They typically don't like to play with each other. Very unfriendly bad guys.

That's why I call it lyme & company. Company can be a virus, parasite, protoza, bacteria. Not just lyme, bartonella, or babesia that we so commonly speak of.

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Hi Pam...Thats exactly how my LLMD thinks about it all but he assures me that I will recover and I must believe him or what else do I have?

I can still do many many things whilst at my worst...even work out so I must be a candidate for full recovery surely?? He wants to clear this eye stuff in order to "move forward" .....me too....me too!! [Smile] What do you think of the diflucan treatment option?? [confused]

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Don't know, never done diflucan. I've been tested for yeastie guys more than once. I've taken good probiotics, done many things to eliminate fungus and yeasties.


I think too many things get blamed on yeast. But that's just my experience. Only diet things I've found useful is...eating fast food only once a month, if that, eating more greens and leafy veggies, taking supplementation if needed, lots of water, no soft drinks, no fake sugar or sugar substitutes, etc.

My doc who treats me doesn't think much about anti-fungals or anti-virals. Build your body and immune system with good stuff and detox, detox and then detox some more.

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Sorry, haven't been around.

I did 150mg/day for 30 days and improved so much did another 3 weeks at the instruction of my LLMD. Mind you, I was under the care of an ENT and Allergist at that point also.

After the first 30 days on Diflucan, upon returning to the Allergist and ENT, they COULD NOT BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE IN MY SINUSES AND ALLERGIES. Totally shocked at the turnaround in my condition. I had spent almost a year under their care and they were threatening surgery at that point to scrape out my sinuses.

I went back again a month later and both doctors released me from their care.

I took Diflucan along with my antibiotics (but separated by a few hours) - but I was closely monitored by bloodwork. And of course abx just make the yeast/candida proliferate.

Another good practice is start using Xlear sinus rinse twice a day, every day. It contains Xylitol, which I believe prevents stuff from sticking to your nasal membranes.

The antibiotic spray is also another possibility on the chance you have some super bug living up there.

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If you're female, neutrophil production is inhibited upon exposure to electromagnetic fields.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1298351

Mice (Mus musculus), strain Swiss Webster, were exposed to an electromagnetic field (12.8 V/m) continuously for a period of eight weeks.

Blood smear for differentials (lymphocytes, neutrophils, eosinophils, monocytes, stabs, and nucleated red blood cells) and tissue samples of the target organs (the thymus and adrenal glands) were analyzed for signs of stress from the electromagnetic field (EMF).

Hematology analysis showed that the immune response is gender specific. Females suppressed the neutrophils while males suppressed the lymphocytes when exposed to the EMF.

Histology analysis showed that there were gender differences with regards to the lesions in the thymus and adrenal glands. Females were adrenal sensitive, while males were thymus sensitive.

So you might want to read this. And it would be nice if (male) researchers would stop blaming our yeast infections on our female hormones.

Role of Neutrophils in Preventing and Resolving Acute Fungal Sinusitis

http://iai.asm.org/cgi/reprint/75/12/5663.pdf

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Great thanks Julie..... I thought back to the beginning of my oreal and yeast infections were present whenever my lyme symptoms flared up. I am quite excited about this and I think it may hold some answers....I'm going to add it to my doxy regimine.

N

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