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starfish1995
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Please, can anyone who has the book The Lyme Disease Solution give a good decription of the Lyme Inflammation Diet that is proposed by Dr Singleton?

Thank you very much,

Beth

P.S. Book is on order, but it may be a week or more...

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up... I don't know but I do know that sugar, carbs and red meat cause inflammation.

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I haven't read the book but I do know that vegetables and fruits (fresh) are the least inflammatory foods you can eat and they help the body detox.

Also agree with Lymetoo about sugar and red meat.

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Hi

Just got done reading it great book and worth the money.
But do I not have it in front of me at the moment.
It would take a while to write it all out.
The basics are the first week is vegetables (certain ones are forbidden like tomatoes)
and fruits (again only certain ones).
Seeds= Walnuts, Almonds and Pinenuts I beleive.
Fish wild not farm raised. Salmon one of the top choices.
Oils. Olive or Sesame seed only.
Drinks: Water and certain fruit juices.
Protein other than nuts and seeds is egg whites only.

Then it goes to 2-3 weeks phase 2 and then phase 3 and four.
Adding back in slowly every other day foods to see what is tollerated.

I would google inflamation diets and see what they have.
U may find the information really close to this.

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More......

The only grains recc. in phase one are:
Brown Rice and Wild I believe.

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Stacy,

Thank you very much for posting this info. Can you give me an idea what the Satge 3 Diet is like? Are there any grains, or meats allowed on Stage 3? Sprouted bread?

Thank you,

Beth

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Really? Red meat, like burgers? are one the causes of inflamation? Interesting... I seem to have issues after eating this.

Are we talking like inflamation in the deep tissues? Or what kind of inflamation exactly?

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Hi Everyone I got the book in hand and I am going to start a new post:
INFLAMATION DIET
under medical forum.
Give me an hour to type it all out.

Stacy

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Laura

It is well known in the field of rheumatology that red meat causes inflammation. I know this because both rheumies first words out of their mouth was "don't eat red meat, it causes the joints to swell"

I am sure it is not just the joints that swell with red meat. I don't know why red does and white doesn't. I currently am not eating any meat or dairy or eggs so practically vegan.

I do not have any inflammation now.

The diet described by you guys is not just a lyme diet. It is a diet to heal the body period.

Luvs

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I am reading the book and about half way through. I am not sure if the INflammation diet is supposed to be used prior to antibiotics or can it be continued during medications? I did read one section where he said the fruit selections can be eaten 2-3 servings once or twice a week I believe while taking antibiotics.

So, for Lyme and co-infeciton patients, the dilemma is two fold. Avoiding inflammation and also candida overgrowth. In contrast to Dr. B who says low to almost no starches/certain carbs, Dr. S allows plenty of brown rice, whole oats, etc - even spruted grains. All of these i eat now and my CRP blood tests have all come back normal - so I wonder if I really have much inflammation? I have always eaten like Dr. S suggests in his book as I have been a health nut for years, and primarly a vegeatarian.

For this reason, I wonder if I should keep having the CRP tests to watch inflammation. I always thought underlying inflammation was a part oif Lyme and co-infections...but not always noticable.....could be under the surface so to speak! For example, I hurt, but I don't see hardly any visible inflammation! Weird?

Anyway, I started on Babesia treatment with Mepron and Zinth two weeks ago and I am tempted to start the Dr. S. Inflamation diet. Anyone have a comment or can tell me if it has helped them? I am already eating as his phase four dictates and have for a long time, especially since getting sick last year so not sure what I would accomplish by starting with phase one but I guess it can't hurt to try.

Thanks!

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I have the Singleton book, but it is very involved.

If you have not yet gone to a gluten-free diet, that would be a place to begin.

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Cattle that are corn-fed and stockyard raised will produce beef that causing inflammation.


Cattle that are free range, antibiotic and hormone-free and are GRASS FED produce beef that is far better for us and do not produce the same effects as their caged counterparts.

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(I must have forgotten to add the link when I copied this article. I think it from an organic beef web site.)


HEALTH

Research has shown that the diet of food-producing animals affects the nutritional content of their meat.

Our natural way of farming produces meat that is higher in beneficial essential nutrients such as Omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids, CLA (conjugated linoleic acid), vitamin-E and beta-carotene, compared to conventionally reared grain-fed stock.


The health advantages of antioxidants, such as vitamin-E and beta-carotene, are well known to reduce incidence of common degenerative diseases such as heart disease and cancer.


Omega-3 fatty acids are also beneficial in similar ways and protect the heart.

Many people are aware that these Omega-3s can be found in oily fish but are now worried about toxins that are believed to accumulate in fish from our polluted seas.


Organic grass-fed beef and lamb provide a safe and valuable source of these essential nutrients.


CLA is a naturally occurring component of animal fat and research is increasingly pointing to its exciting health benefits:


``CLA is the only fatty acid shown unequivocally to inhibit carcinogenesis in experimental animals.'' - Carcinogens and Anti-carcinogens in the Human Diet, The National Academy of Sciences, 1996.


Not only does CLA display these anti-cancer properties but it has also been shown to reduce cholesterol concentration and help reduce fat deposition in fat cells in the body and encourage muscle development.


Research is currently underway to explore the benefits to the immune system for patients with asthma and other autoimmune diseases.


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I don't eat beef so not worried. I rarely eat chicken or turkey and sometimes eat mercury freewild caught tune, some wild caught flounder and some organic eggs at times but they are not everyday by an means! Thes are all rare but more so no since on a more Lyme centered diet. Ugh! I prefer to be vegetarian. You can also get all the Omega-3 fats from plant sources so you don't need fish! Leafy greens are loaded! So are flaxseeds.

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Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
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I didn't know about the red meat. I have a roast in the crock pot that has been cooking all day and I am hungry!!

Ah. I will back off on this too....but later gator.

Hopefully, I will not notice a difference the next few days.

I usually get several servings out of the roast.

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Rich, inflammation is rampant in Lymies. You can't see most inflammation.

Remember, inflammation is one of the main causes of heart attacks. It's unseen.

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There are some nutrients that a vegetarian diet does not provide:
taurine, L-carnitine are just a couple.

For anyone on vegetarian diet, special care should be taken. And, it takes a lot of calculating to get the 75-80 grams of protein we need - or more.

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Protein helps our bodies make glutathione and that helps the liver detox . . . protein's amino acids help our brain, our hearts, our muscles, etc., etc., etc.,

Taurine, L-carnitine from muscle meats, is vital, too. A diet devoid of taurine can endanger vision. Some supplements contain these, others do not.


http://tinyurl.com/3fd9mz - - 20 pages


THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROTEIN & AMINO ACID DURING ACUTE & CHRONIC INFECTION . . .


Anura V. Kurpad - Institute of Population Health & Clinical Research, Bangalore, India


129. Indian J Med Res 124, August 2006, pp 129-148. Review Article.


Excerpt: " . . . In general, the amount of EXTRA protein that would appear to be needed is of the order of 20-25 per cent of the recommended intake, for most infections. . . ."


- Full article at link (or google the title if it does not go through).


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I don't want to argue, but I have gobe throug all the research I could get my hands on on various cultures, countries, diets, you name it and everything I have found and most of the best and well read nutritionists say a vegetarian diet is best. I want to be healthy at 100 so that is how I eat. [Smile] I can eat fis or eggs once in a while but I prefer not too. My digestion is always 100% better with no meat at all and my energy is much better.

Anyway, I don't want to argue, it is false when you say Taurine and L-carnitine are only available from meat. For example, you can get plenty of L-Carnatine from many vegetables, nuts and seeds.

I was a natural body builder for years and still have vegan and vegetrian friends in the sport who are tested regularly for nutritional profiles in addition to physicals.


Remember, most vegan diets(those who don't have a clue of how to eat correctly) are not healthy, so they are not a good standard and low levels of Taurine do not indicate a concern. This is explained in relation to taurine in the nutrition textbook, Modern Nutrition In Health and Disease, By Maurice Edward Shils. In spite of the lower levels, there's no evidence of harm and just the opposite, evidence of healthy adult vegans and healthy vegan children.

Taurine is not essential and is manufactured by the body.

Anyway, we agree to disagree. [Wink]
No harm.

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Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
up... I don't know but I do know that sugar, carbs and red meat cause inflammation.

No, carbs do not always cause inflammation. Where did you read that!!?? Even Dr. S recommends Brown Rice to start!

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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