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heiwalove
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has anyone tried EMDR therapy for PTSD related to lyme, and if so, do you recommend it?

thank you in advance.

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[edit- sorry, long insomnia typing, not very useful.]

[ 10. April 2008, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: danielb ]

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EMDR is extremely effective in PTSD, and I think it would be well worth a try for PTSD related to Lyme. I can't imagine any reason why it wouldn't work just as well as it does for any other trauma.

I have had incredibly positive experiences firsthand with EMDR, really like nothing else I have ever seen. It is very healing.

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Hi heiwalove,

Yes, EMDR Level 2 works well to heal or to partly heal. Yes, by all means, go. It helped me.

My Medicaid insurance paid for it.

daise [Smile]

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ok what's EMDR?? my gut reaction emergency room dr!

when you use an abbreciation NOT normally used frequently, please spell it out after you 1st use it so we can go back to top to refresh our NEURO lyme minds!! a greatful reader... [group hug] [kiss]

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heiwalove
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hi betty,

sorry, i actually forget what it stands for.

here's the website:

http://www.emdr.com

and here is a brief description:

http://www.emdr.com/briefdes.htm

hope that helps.

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Interesting that you are talking about EMDR. Last week, I pulled a list of local EMDR-trained practitioners and have it on my list to do some further looking into. Sounds like a good option for dealing with the emotional issues around chronic illness - whether as a result of or a contributor to or both. Best

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We haven't tried it yet, but are seeing a therapist who is licensed to do it. She says that she has seen spect scans of before and after EMDR, and that you can SEE the change!
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Hi everyone,

EMDR Level 2 is specifically for PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress.)

PTSD can happen from many events. For example, sexual assasult, a bad car accident, a natural phenonmenon such as a tornado or flash flood, or from military battle. And more.

The event was so horrendous that it caused damage in our brains, in the form of recurring visuals of the traumatic event(s).

It causes physical, mental and psychological changes that are life-altering.

In the case of we Lyme patients, some feel they have PTSD because of the frightening and fully abusive way that we are treated by most doctors. [Eek!]

Before I was diagnosed I remember thinking about how it was possible that America had stooped this low. How was it possible that doctors can easily dismiss gravely ill patients and feel nothing.

I thought they may have a license to practice, but these aren't human beings. They have tried at every turn NOT to be humane--not to be human.

If most of these doctors are not human, then what are they?

Someone donated an old computer to me and I was able to get on the internet. I joined this site and saw that you all refer to these docs as ducks. Quack quack!

It brings camaraderie; shared, horrible nightmareish experiences in front of ducks that are the norm for we Lyme patients ... yet what invading planet are these ducks from?

How is this duck nightmare possible? And the children. How can doctors do this to children? Doctors abusing children and that is the norm?

That's why some believe they have PTSD.

Here is a link to a recent post:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=064845

GO TO MOST DOCTORS--GET WORSE. Yes, physically, mentally and psychologically worse, it's certainly possible. [bonk]

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I was just talking about EMDR today...werid!

It is amazing. It totally works... I had horrible anxiety and after EMDR it's gone. Gone now for 3+ years. Don't even give anxiety a second thought. For me though... it wasn't a quick fix. It took hard work with a therapist who is licensed in EMDR and it took about 6 months to see any results. It's hard because you have to bring up those experiences that are so unpleasant (that brought you to therapy in the first place). For me it was anxiety issues (I didn't want to go on medicine to treat it)... I bet it would work for Lyme PTSD very well. It was a very positive experience for me.

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going out on a limb here -- if anyone knows of a good EMDR practitioner in the nyc area, please pm me.

thanks. [Smile]

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BettyG,

EMDR: Eye Movement Desensitzation Reprocessing.
The process is hard to explain, it's best experienced.

EMDR Level 2. I needed 5 sessions.

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daise --

what's the difference between level 2 and other practitioners? how do you know if someone specializes in level 2?

thanks.
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heiwalove,

Level 2 is the treatment I got--that's what it's called.

Is there a Level 1 or a Level 3? I don't know.

daise [Smile]

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The level refers to the training of the practitioner, not the treatment itself.

The training is intensive, and first you get trained as a Level One practitioner. Then you have to go out and practice, and then if you like you can take the Level 2 training. A therapist can practice at either level, and some practice without even getting that training. There is no licensure for EMDR, but there is certification. It is not necessary to be certified to practice. However an ethical practitioner will get the appropriate training through the EMDR Institute and no where else.

A Level 2 trained therapist is what you really want. They are the best trained. You can find them at www.emdr.com. They keep a list and you can access it of all Level 2 trained therapists. Just do a search in your area.

VERY IMPORTANT: EMDR is used for things other than PTSD. It is used for many things, but most commonly used and extremely effective in PTSD.

Everyone should know however that there is a pain protocol also. You can ask an EMDR therapist to use it with you around pain. It can help to reduce pain.

The other site for learning more is www.emdria.com.

EMDR can make you feel better in the first session.

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