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I remember I read in Dr. Burhner's "healing lyme" that some bateria's life cycle is 16 months and can only be killed during reproduction...
I had bart scratches on and off last September~December, and began to have similar scratches again early April this year. What do you think this may indicate? Bart alive again?
Have you had rashes on and off all along? I think of myself "lukcy" having these rashes, however it seems LLMDs don't really use this information for abx treatment plans.
Any input is appreciated!
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for me bart is the worst to eradicate... I have been on and off to treat it for over 1 year.
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I believe the lyme bacteria reproduces every 30 days. I really don't think that a bacteria can only reproduce as slowly as 16 mths?
Especially when super bacteria like staph and strep can reproduce within hours, e-coli- and salmonella reproduce quickly also.
I've never read this "healing lyme" book. But I believe something doesn't sound correct? Could that be 16 days?
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I think the 16 months is referencing the theoretial amount of time you would need to be on antibiotics in order to cover an X number of life cycles.
I'm pretty sure it's not meant to represent the actual life cycle of BB.
It was an extrapolation based on how long strep or staph are treated (based on their 20 minute reproductive cycles)
The 7 to 10 tens of antibiotics to treat strep/staph cover X number of life cycles of the bacteria (to ensure it's dead).
In order to cover the same number of life cycles for BB, it would require 16 months (approximately) of treatment.
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Bartonella is a Gram Negative Bacteria The Bartonella are small, Gram-negative aerobic bacilli that are difficult to grow in culture. From something a read a while back I beleive the reproduction cycle is 5 weeks.
As they are a bacteria the ab's that target Bart (levaquin/rifamin etc) would give a continual kill rate as with any bacteria (unlike lyme where you only get it in its reproductive cycle)
I am told that you often need to go on bart ab's for 4 months and then cycle off and back on as when you come off the Ab (levaquin etc) the bart then pops out of the tissues and bone marrow as it thinks its safe, so you then re blast it. Also apparantly when you are treating babs or lyme they can reappear and that is why you need to keep re treating.
I would discuss this with your LLMD as he should be knowledgeable in this.
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