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I have been experimenting with a doug coil for a couple of months. Has anyone ever used frequency 864 and/or had pain, vibrating sensations, muscle spasm, tingling, zapping sensations or other while using this or other frequencies? Has anyone ever had any experience using a coil machine on the head? I felt pain in my shoulders while using this frequency and for the first time in a long time was able to sleep through the night without waking up with shoulder pain! Thanks for any answers.
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Yes 864 is a serious frequency against Lyme Disease.
Check this out:
ALS (Amyotropic lateral sclerosis, possibly caused by mycolplasma fermentans. Also use MS and see Lyme freqs) - 2900, 864, 790, 690, 610, 484, 986, 644, 254
In response to silver bullet for Lyme recommendation, my Developer source (who has no computer)
says: "There is no one silver bullet on frequencies. One woman used 432 Hz on her son and miracles happened. It did not work for her, but 625 Hz did.
Both were infected on same camping trip." "Doug" originally gave list as: 864 or 432; 690; 610 and 610-630 scan; 484 and 484 to 503 scan; and said, "Always run the 610 Hz after the 864 Hz--it lessens the severity of Herxheimer reaction," and later added 480-540 scan, and 765-810 scan.
Hulda Clark's frequencies are given in khz or thousands of hertz. So if you want to know the actual frequency, add 3 zeros to it. So 380 khz (Lyme disease) is really 380000 hz.
If you divide that by 440, you get 864 which actually is a frequency that is used for that disease.
Just divide Clark's number by .44 for a faster method. So 380 divided by .44 is 864. Unfortunately, as far as I know, only the frequencies for this disease and blepharisma are proven to work when determined by this method.
Another report:
Bob - I used a "Doug" version of the Lyme machine. If is very powerful, uses a 2000 watt amplifier, and helped my wife immensely. She couldn't even walk around the block, and is now virtually 100%. the frequencies we used were 864, 690, 610, 484, and finally 790, which helped her get over the final hurdle.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Thanks for posting the frequencies that worked for your wife.
I run eight at a time for my wife, so we never get it narrowed down to individual frequencies.
For some reason, she has been exceptionally symptom free for a few weeks now. I think sun exposure may be helping her now. Before it would make her ill since it apparently helped to kill some bacteria.
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Yes, thank you for posting this! I am going to try 864 on my coil machine.
Tim- how long have you been using your doug coil machine? How long each session and what other frequencies have you tried? I have mainly focused on 432, 306, and 1518 (bartonella). I definitely have to add more frequencies, but I work them in slowly.
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You mentioned the 306 frequency. I found that the next harmonic of 612 worked better than 306. It also worked better than the next harmonic of 1224.
I do not know why it makes a difference, but my wife reacts to the most effective frequencies with joint pain, and 612 always and repeatably produced a more pronounced reaction.
This single frequency was so effective for her it was the only one we ran by itself.
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610 to 612 is the frequency that Doug "officially" declared a MOR for Bb. Having used the microscope -- which most of you know -- allowed him to see the profound effect of that frequency directly on the sample. The result if I'm not mistaken was total annhilation of all Bb.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Update My Preferred Elsevier Websites Abstract Apart from its devastating impact on individuals and their families, multiple sclerosis (MS) creates a huge economic burden for society by mainly afflicting young adults in their most productive years. Although effective strategies for symptom management and disease modifying therapies have evolved, there exists no curative treatment yet.
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The immunomodulating anti-inflammatory potential of minocycline and hydroxychloroquine may furthermore reduce the Jarisch Herxheimer reaction triggered by decaying Borrelia at treatment initiation.
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I feel it is likely a different species of Borrellia that is responsible for MS. The symptoms are similar in many respects but somewhat different.
At least one researcher has found a different form of Borrellia in MS patients.
quote: She identified two different species of L-form bacteria in patients with Parkinson's Disease. The L- form species of Borrellia burgdoferi was detected in patients with Lyme disease. She cultured serum from forty patients with multiple sclerosis and found a different species of the borrelia L-form present in her samples. Soon after, she detected Chlamydia pneumonia in the blood of patients who had suffered a pulmonary thrombosis. She also found bacteria that resembled M. tuberculosis in the blood of patients with the lung disease sarcoidosis.
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The people over at www.cpnhelp.org believe that c. pneumonia is the culprit for some MS.
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I programmed a harmonics autoprogram with my GB-4000.
It consists of the fundamental frequency of 306 and the next seven harmonics. All of these run at the same time. It caused pain in my wife's fingers and ankles and a few other joints. It also had a new effect of making her skin itch in random places.
When I ran some standard Lyme frequency autoprograms consisting of various frequencies, it made her back hurt more than anything else.
Not sure what it means or if it means anything, but the harmonics method produced different sensations than eight unrelated Lyme frequencies running at the same time.
As usual, her joint pain was gone the next day. She went much longer than normal before she needed treatment this time. I think it is due to sunlight exposure, but not sure.
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maybe silly, but, can anyone explain what its like to hook up to one of these machines? I'm blessed to have found a doc that has been trained to use one and wants to meet with me very bad. I am a worry wart for sure. What sensations should I prepare myself for? Pain? Numbness? Tingling? Shock? I over worry myself all the time. But killing this disease is priority #1. Ehhh...anyone?
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There is generally no sensation from the machine itself, such as shocks. I am not sure what kind of machine he has, but in general there are either contact or non-contact machines.
Contact machines require you to hold on to a positive and negative conductor and the frequencies pass through you at a very low power level. I have never felt anything using this method, unless it actually hits a bacteria of some kind. Then you may have some sensation. My wife has increased pain in joints, and nerves while being treated. the level depends on how much bacteria is there to be hit. She seemsto be more sensitive to this treatment than most people, so it may be different for you.
Non-contact methods involve a plasma tube that you just sit by. The frequencies are radiated from the plasma tube. Both work, but the plasma tube method may get to spots that the contact method does not.
You will likley feel worse before you feel better. Same as any other treatment in that respect.
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