sparkle7
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I've seen postings about mercury on this board several times now. I would love to get rid of this stuff & not have it be a part of my life but I have several questions...
1. I have been tested for mercury several times & I have very low levels as I was told by my doctors (ie: it's not worth getting into a tizzy about).
2. I have a bunch of silver fillings. I've had some removed. When they are removed, they can vaporize & cause more issues with mercury exposure.
3. It's expensive to have them removed. For some people, they can get worse or have no change in health symptoms after going through the removal process. I personally know some people who this has happened to.
4. If you've had silver fillings exposing you to mercury for over 30 years, is it really going to change things to have them removed?
5. How about getting all those vaccines when we were kids?
6. What about all the toxic stuff surrounding us? Why is mercury any worse then exposure to PCBs, pesticides, or whatever. I've had alot of jobs where I was exposed to solvents, cleaning products, dark room chemicals, plastic based ink, paint, pesticides, etc.
Why harp on mercury as if it is the only toxin we are surrounded by. I was living in a house for 9 years that had asbestos in the basement. The landlord had a removal company come & clean it up prior to selling the property. We are surrounded by toxins.
I don't understand why mercury is the only toxin that seems to be the one that interacts with Lyme.
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I don't mean to be rude or dimissive. I just don't understand why some doctors single out mercury & give it special significance in regards to Lyme.
I think it's good to try to use products to clean up your system but will we ever really get rid of the mercury after having exposure to it for 10, 20, 30 or 40+ years?
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luvs2ride
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Sparkle,
Mercury is just one of the burdens on our immune system that is contributing to our illness.
Remember, many people are bit by lyme infected ticks and never have a problem with it. Why do we?
Our immune systems are sick, weak, overburdened with many toxins of which mercury is one. You want to eliminate all that you can. The hope is that one day, the toxic load (including bacterial toxins) will reduce to the point our immune systems can again function normally and we get well.
I had 11 amalgams in my mouth at one time. Eventually, they became aged and needed replacing. Thank God the dentist I had at that time did not replace the amalgams with more amalgams. He used resin. Beyond that, he did nothing to protect himself or me from the vapors when removing the amalgams.
He removed 9 of them and I noticed no ill effects. I was healthy at that time. When my lyme arthritis set in, it was in my jaws. I could barely open my mouth.
Due to GiGi's posts here at lymenet, I investigated my 5 root canals and priced removal of my 3 remaining amalgams. I could not afford the root canal extractions but I did have the amalgams removed for a total cost of $400 and change. I felt this to be very reasonable. It was done by a biological dentist.
Within 2 mths of removal, my jaw pain was gone and has never returned. That was summer 2006.
I consider that to be very direct improvement significant to the mercury removal.
My urine challenge did show my mercury levels to be elevated, but I have read that a low test does not mean you don't have mercury or any other metal toxicity but rather your body may not be excreting it. Much more concerning was my level of lead. It was 3x the highest acceptable limit.
Mercury feeds yeast. High levels of mercury will cause the body to allow yeast overgrowth as a way of keeping the mercury levels down. Then when you kill the yeast, the mercury is again released into the body.
It all matters.
Luvs
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good post. thanks. i'm struggling with what to do about it too. so many problems...where do you put your energy and money????
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I had about 14 amalgam fillings and was still more or less feeling okay at that time. Then I had them all replaced by gold in one session without any protection.
Around that time, my first neurological problems started. I got lost in my company, on the road, forgot where I was going, etc.
One improvement I noted, however: Since then I had no more bleeding gums whereas before they always bleeded when I brushed my teeth.
10 years later I found that I'm allergic to gold and had to take out all this expensive gold and to replace it by ceramic.
I didn't improve after this last exchange. I read a thesis of someone who examined if metals from teeth fillings settle in the body.
He found that traces of ALL metals that you put in your mouth stay in your body. So, now I'm carrying my allergen around in my body.
If I had to do it again: Only replace the OLD fillings when they are due, one by one WITH protection.
Never ever put any metal in my mouth, anymore. After amalgams, many people become allergic to other metals, too.
Never ever put cheap gold in the mouth. It contains palladium which can have worse effects than mercury.
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I've done a ton of research on mercury and the "reports" are all so conflicting.
I'm part of a mercury web board and many there tell me to get my fillings out, others tell me do not. My ND told me testing for metals is useless because there is no reliable testing, yet the folks on this board tell me to get it done.
My LLMD tells me is very dangerous to remove fillings because removal will release more mercury into my system no matter how safe the dentist is at removing them.
I had 3 fillings removed 4 years ago with no ill effects and a month after I had those removed, I had my ANA blood test done(I get one every year because it's been + for 14 yrs) and that year was the first time it was negative. Of course 12 months later it was + again.
This mercury issue is baffling and confusing, so I'll sit tight until I hear more concrete evidence about what to do.
Would love to hear other people take on this as well.
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quote:Originally posted by Gabrielle:
Around that time, my first neurological problems started. I got lost in my company, on the road, forgot where I was going, etc.
If I had to do it again: Only replace the OLD fillings when they are due, one by one WITH protection.
Gabrielle
WOW, that is scary! How long after removal did you notice the effects?
And I totally agree, I think if they need to be removed, then take them out with a denist that specializes in removal.
quote:Originally posted by Peacesoul: WOW, that is scary! How long after removal did you notice the effects? [/QB]
I don't remember exactly - it was 13 years ago. I took the amalgams out in April 1995. I'm sure that my problems started soon after because I had my hubby brandnew at that time
and I remember banging against the walls of his old apartment two or three times by night because I just couldn't walk straight anymore (no, I wasn't drunk). He gave up this place soon after so I know it was soon after.
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The key is to get a good dentist. Here is a good source:
My dentist is a member of this association - they don't use mercury. He didn't want to remove my fillings and only did so on the recommendation of my Lyme Dr. Dentists don't want the exposure, either and they are exposed when they remove amalgams. He used a suction method and I went directly to my Lyme Dr. for an IV. Then I did a 24 hour urine test.
I feel that the urine test is an accurate test for heavy metals. The first test shows high levels of various methods and then after chelation they are much lower.
We shouldn't just worry about Mercury. We need to address EVERY toxin. That's why detox is so important. Saunas, Lymph Drainage treatments, clean diet, use of non toxic health, beauty and cleaning products, etc. are very important. Addressing neurotoxins is important, too. And let's not forget about parasites. (ew, but very important)
We aren't going to feel better unless we address all of our problems. It's a lot of work but what is the alternative?
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Go to www.iaomt.org and click on "Smoking teeth" video; very scary. Also on that site, a link to another video on how mercury causes nerve degeneration; very compelling.
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luvs2ride
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mojo makes a good point. I too went straight to my doctor after the recent mercury removal by a biological dentist (member of iaomt)for an IV of Vit C. This is to aid mercury removal.
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quote:Originally posted by Gabrielle: Never ever put any metal in my mouth, anymore.
Gabrielle, sometimes we read something, and a lightbulb goes on... your ONE sentence in your post made me go "Ah-HA!".
My daughter's symptoms started around the time she got braces to fix her crooked teeth. Her braces have been off for over two years now, but they left a permanent metal retainer behind her front bottom teeth.
Our dentist did not believe in metal fillings. He never said because it was not safe, he told me they were extremely "ugly". So, my daughter never had any metal fillings, and the dentist removed all mine years ago. Maybe he said it was ugly and insisted on removing them because he didn't want to panic me.
I think it is time the metal retainer comes out of my daughter's mouth.
And Luvs2Ride, your post hit some points with me too. Great post.
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If I had it to do over again, I would NOT remove the fillings.
It caused my face pain to spread from mandible area upwards to maxillary in the are of where I got work done and into eye.
The pain has become excruciating.
It did not make a positive difference for me at all and has only made my problems worse.
The best advice I can offer for someone who is considering it is to take note of your feeling and motivation. If you are doing it out of fear or panic or because some people say it's an absolute must....wait.
Wait until you are well and at peace with your decision and seek out a dentist who is knowledgable.
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I've been collecting names of Dentists who are Lyme Literate. Does anyone see a Lyme Literate dentist? PM me. I just added a few today who are in Texas of all places! I was happy about that. Finding physicians in Texas is awfully hard right now.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
sparkle7
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Thanks guys!
I've had some fillings removed. I was very careful to ask my dentist to use a dental dam & I tried not to breathe the vapors when they were drilling. They used suction to remove any vapors or residue. I also took chlorella.
I don't know why dentists seem to be so careless about this. My dentist didn't even care about wearing a vapor mask to prevent himself from breathing the vapor. Mercury is a huge nightmare - I don't know how they could think this was a good thing to put in people's heads (or in vaccines, etc.).
In any case, I have any recent fillings done with ceramic. From what I heard, the ceramic isn't all that safe, either.
I was ill from having the fillings removed for a couple weeks but it wasn't too bad. My biofeedback doctor (a PhD) had problems with Lyme & mercury removal. He said to be very careful & do it very gradually - like one tooth every 6 months.
I'd like to proceed but I don't really have the money now. I read on some posts that saunas can make the mercury go into the brain. I also don't know if it's good to take chlorella or cilantro if you still have mercury fillings. I have done saunas but it didn't make me feel any worse due to mercury toxicity.
It's really a dilemma... There was a good video on Rosner's blog illustrating how mercury affects the mylein sheath of the nerve cells. It really deteriates them (pls excuse spelling errors).
I used to play with mercury in my hands when I was a kid. I don't know why my mercury levels have been low - I had a bunch of tests for it with several doctors. I think someone mentioned that the tests are not all that accurate.
It's really troubling about all of these toxins. I'm not sure the damage from mercury can really be reversed after having the fillings, etc. in my head for all these years - even if they are removed.
What now?
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Sparkle wrote: 1. I have been tested for mercury several times & I have very low levels as I was told by my doctors (ie: it's not worth getting into a tizzy about).
How were you tested? Did you have a challenge such that the metals were pulled out of your tissues and bones in order to make some sort of reasonable estimated of your body burden?
I ask because I had a hair analysis years ago and metals were low on that test but the challenge test using DMSA showed both lead and mercury to be a problem.
What type of doctor told you that it's not worth getting into a tizzy about? My FMS allopathic doctor said the same thing but then he bought into the ADA's BS, that mercury fillings are totally safe.
Later I presented a study showing that mice who had sub-toxic levels of mercury had a harder time getting rid of a borrelia infections. He said the study was from a reputable journal and he thought it was a significant finding.
Sparkle wrote: If you've had silver fillings exposing you to mercury for over 30 years, is it really going to change things to have them removed?
Removing amalgams is the first step. You then need to have the metals, especially lead and mercury, removed from your body through chelation.
I believe chelation will benefit everyone IF it is done correctly and that's a big IF. Lots of people don't seem to know what they are doing and if you do it wrong, you can get worse, much worse from what I've heard and read.
Chelation should not only remove mercury but lead as well. Everyone has lead in their bones even if they aren't being currently exposed. According to the US government, about 50% of a mother's lead burden is transferred to her fetus. All of our mothers were exposed to lead through leaded gasoline and many other sources.
If you don't get the lead removed from your bones, it will start to be released into your system when you stop replacing bone as quickly as it is being removed. This happens naturally as we age.
I personally think this could explain why so many elderly have dementia but it causes many other problems as well.
The mercury/mouse study
: Clin Exp Immunol. 2007 Oct;150(1):189-97. Epub 2007 Aug 2. Links Mercury exposure as a model for deviation of cytokine responses in experimental Lyme arthritis: HgCl2 treatment decreases T helper cell type 1-like responses and arthritis severity but delays eradication of Borrelia burgdorferi in C3H/HeN mice.Ekerfelt C, Andersson M, Olausson A, Bergstr�m S, Hultman P.
Division of Clinical Immunology, and Unit of Autoimmunity and Immune Regulation, Department of Molecular and Clinical Medicine, Faculty of Health Sciences, University Hospital, Link�ping, Sweden. [email protected]
Lyme borreliosis is a complex infection, where some individuals develop so-called 'chronic borreliosis'.
The pathogenetic mechanisms are unknown, but the type of immune response is probably important for healing.
A strong T helper cell type 1 (Th1)-like response has been suggested as crucial for eradication of Borrelia and for avoiding development of chronic disease.
Many studies aimed at altering the Th1/Th2 balance in Lyme arthritis employed mice deficient in cytokine genes, but the outcome has not been clear-cut, due possibly to the high redundancy of cytokines. This study aimed at studying the importance of the Th1/Th2 balance in murine Borrelia arthritis by using the Th2-deviating effect of subtoxic doses of inorganic mercury.
Ninety-eight C3H/HeN mice were divided into four groups: Borrelia-infected (Bb), Borrelia-infected exposed to HgCl(2) (BbHg), controls exposed to HgCl(2) alone and normal controls. Mice were killed on days 3, 16, 44 and 65 post-Borrelia inoculation.
Arthritis severity was evaluated by histology, spirochaetal load determined by Borrelia culture, IgG2a- and IgE-levels analysed by enzyme-linked immunosorbemt assay (ELISA) and cytokine-secreting cells detected by enzyme-linked immunospot (ELISPOT).
BbHg mice showed less severe histological arthritis, but delayed eradication of spirochaetes compared to Bb mice, associated with increased levels of IgE (Th2-induced) and decreased levels of IgG2a (Th1-induced), consistent with a Th2-deviation.
Both the numbers of Th1 and Th2 cytokine-secreting cells were reduced in BbHg mice, possibly explained by the fact that numbers of cytokine-secreting cells do not correlate with cytokine concentration.
In conclusion, this study supports the hypothesis that a Th1-like response is required for optimal eradication of Borrelia.
PMID: 17672870 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID: PMC2219278 [Available on 10/01/08]
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I want to add my two cents to all. Will try to do my best from what I have learned during my healing journey with Dr. K. and ART.
Sparkle: The presently available lab testing for heavy metals is almost as inconclusive as the ones we have for Lyme and Co. A blood test does not help because mercury does not ``live'' in the blood. It may be going through there occasionally, but it is not found in the blood as a rule even though the rest of your body may be loaded with it.
Dr. K. recommends to do a hair test and start some treatment on the assumption that you are metal toxic. We all are, some less, some more. Do another Hair test six weeks later. A good practitioner can interpret the test and the changes in the mineral status.
If I find my tubulin lecture, I will post it. Here it is:
Here is all about Tubulin. Very, very important when discussing heavy metal toxicity:
This is from my notes and recordings at various seminars where teeth and microbial infections - Lyme Disease - was discussed:
This is Dr. K. speaking:
"Tubulin is one of the key elements in our body that you need to know a bit about when talking about heavy metal toxicity. Tubulin is the microscopic structural scaffolding along which the body is held up, held erect. It's not the bones - it is the tubulin.
Tubulin is in the connective tissue inside the cells, inside the nerves, and it is primarily a structural molecule. But in the nerves it serves as a special, other function. Tubulin looks like a pipe. In the nerve, it's along the tubulin that all the neurotransmitters are piped from the nerve cell down in the periphery; and neurotransmitters are stored in the little bubbles, in the vesicles, in the synaptic knob. (Showed picture)
The important thing to know about tubulin is that Without tubulin, the nerve cannot transport neurotransmitters, but also to the end, the nerve cannot transport nutrients up from the nerve endings into the nerve cells.
Without tubulin the nerve starves to death and cannot function as a nerve which is highly dependent on producing neurotransmitters which are released when the electric impulse travels along the axon of the nerve. We know that one of the major sites where mercury attacks the nerve is the tubulin.
Why is the nerve being poisoned with mercury - what is the property of the nerve that makes it more vulnerable to mercury? The answer to that question is one word -- curiosity. Nerve cells are curious. If you place anything in front of a nerve, the nerve gobbles it up like a child with their mouth - stick it in their mouth, taste it, feel it; and what happens with certain toxins that we call neurotoxins are those that the nerve gobbles up, but they cause damage inside the nerve. The nerve cannot get rid of it - like a child that eats something that's bitter or doesn't like, takes it in their mouth, spits it out and not much damage is done. However, the nerve when it takes in (through a process called penocytosis), if it takes in substances from its periphery then travel up inside the nerve and are transported to the center of the nerve.
Substances that cause damage on the way up or in the nerve cells - they are referred to as neurotoxins.
Mercury has been found as being the only neurotoxin that causes damage to the tubulin. So when mercury is placed here, the nerve with its curiosity picks it up and immediately it travels within a very short period of time up the axon, destroys the axon, destroys the bridges over which it came into the nerve, and destroys several cell organelles in the nerve.
The toxins that are in the liver cell or in the connective tissue behave very different and cause very different symptoms than the toxins or the mercury that has made it inside the nerve.
Mercury has made it inside the nerve and causes neurological symptoms; (Evidence relating to Alzheimers was shown); the developmental disorders in children - especially autism; we know that the link to MS, ALS, and all the neurodegenerative disease, is mercury once it enters the cell. We know from the research and from the chemistry involved that no other metal can cause this damage to the tubulin.
All the other metals are co-factors. And what the government and other institutions make you believe - everybody focuses on the secondary things. How much have you heard about lead toxicity in children?
Lead toxicity is now a big subject because lead is forbidden now. So now that it doesn't have any impact - the gasoline industry now is not allowed to use lead anymore - it has no impact because it is already done. So all the studies that the government funds now are on the things that are already outlawed. But they things that are still used, there is no funding for those studies. This is one of the big political issues behind mercury. Do not be deceived on that.
Some of the symptoms, each one of these has at least two articles in the medical peer reviewed literature in it: What I will show you is that there is not a single symptom in the human condition that is not caused by or exacerbated by mercury toxicity. Not a single one. It may be hair loss or pimples or premature aging, thyroid dysfunction, etc.
Depression - low grade depression is found in newborn children, like in 2-year 3 year olds; with having the most severe expression in the teenage years, especially in boys when the hormones kick in. Testosterone ( as Boyd Haley and other researchers showed) has a tremendous synergistic effect with mercury. That's why autism is four times more common in boys than in girls. But also the suicide rate in male teenagers is far higher than in females. The moment the testosterone kicks in, the low grade depression that you had throughout childhood from the mercury will turn into suicidal depression and you jump off the bridge or put the bullet through your brain; and/or you murder a bunch of children in school and then shoot yourself.
And yet, the distribution of all the work that was done in this area is being suppressed. More and more neurological things, people complaning about numbness and tingling of the hands; it is not carpal tunnel syndrome and it is not a deficiency of Vitamin B6 or B5 to start with - it is mercury that has disturbed the metabolism of those vitamins. Or it has disturbed the connective tissue.
Any tremors - any dentist that we test where we ask them to close their eyes and stand there long enough - you see the fine tremor, if they have been in the business long enough; unless they cut the corner and became mercury free dentists or cut the corner in other ways and are now TMJ specialists and have escaped.
Showed evidence of ALS and MS. We know now they are not just caused by mercury; but mercury is an important co-factor in all of the neurological diseases, because we know that the chronic infections are involved and especially the infections in the jawbone."
There is not as single symptom in the human condition that is not caused by or exacerbated by mercury toxicity.
I recently saw a special photo of an extracted tooth the lecturing scientist had kept in his drawer for 15 years. It was installed in a person's mouth 50 years ago and extracted 15 years ago. Yet this tooth is still releasing mercury vapors today as readily visible on this special photo. Chewing, drinking hot and cold, jaw movements, mercury escapes. I forgot the number of times we average opening and closing our mouth during a 24 hour period. Lots.
Merely removing the fillings is not solving the problem. Yes, the first rule in toxicology is to remove the source. But the mercury has in the meantime escaped and settled in the body from where it has to be helped out, coaxed out.
Dr. K.'s words:
Toxins almost never come alone. They come in synergistically acting package-deals. Mercury alone is toxic. Together with zinc it is many times more toxic, add in a little copper and silver, as in dental amalgam fillings, and the detrimental effect to the body increases manifold. Together with mercaptan and thioether (dental toxins) the toxic amalgam effects grow exponentially. Add in a little PCB and dioxin, as in fish, and the illness causing effect of the methyl mercury in fish increases manifold.
Toxicology is to a large degree the study of synergistic effects. In synergy 1 plus 1 = 100. Heavy metals are primarily neurotoxins. There is a synergistic effect between all neurotoxins which is responsible for the illness producing effect.
We probably can never get rid of all the toxins, but reducing the load and avoiding further exposure as much as possible can get people well. I did it. I had 12 root canals and nothing but crowns and fillings underneath. Many people I know have taken steps to clean out their body and have a new life. It definitely can be done.
If you get hung up with the Cowden protocol, think heavy metals. Heavy metal toxicity are a major part of Dr. C.'s treatment method for his patients.
I agree it is a sin and a huge nightmare. We lost our infant son to mercury. He was a perfectly healthy baby, was vaccinated and died nine hours after vaccination. Now, we are down to 1 in 50some with autism!
I have no use for negligent, stupid and ignorant dentists and medical practitioners who seem to have lost their capacity for thinking. That is what mercury does. Mercury is a toxin.
Re present material, at this point, it's all we have. But it beats mercury by miles.
Re: Replace l filling every six months? probably a good way to do it if you have enough "health" to get you through. It would have taken me many years to remove/exchange all fillings, and I would not have lasted that long. 20 fillings over ten years???? Damage too great. If you have few -- Using common sense is best. It all depends on overall conditions.
If done in quadrants, they should be done fairly close together, just a few weeks apart. If they quarters are stretched too far apart, the stress on the body is more severe because it is ongoing. A toxic body cannot heal.
Re taking Chlorella, Cilantro, etc.:
Chlorella will remove some of the mercury as it circulates through the system. Rinse your mouth aafter taking it. Cilantro should not be done until the lower body load has been lightened. Cilantro crosses the blood brain barrier and mobilizes (not to be confused with chelating - there is no chelator -- only mobilizing agents) some of the metals. Rubbing it into painful areas on the body and green lasering it short term only - that works. Chlorella and all binding agents are very important.
Doing cilantro and DMPS, DMSA before the extracellular spaces are cleared at least somewhat creates a ``roadblock'' and does not feel good! Doing any of these except chlorella is not a good idea.
Yes, heavy metals damage the myelin and tubulin. But it can all be reversed starting with removing the toxins. Dr. C. in his presentation shows a bathtub full of toxins! More and more - until flooding! and we are down and out.
The metals are ``stuck'' in areas from where they cannot escape at the moment. It takes a special approach and some coaxing.
Sparkle, you ask "what now?"
Yes, the damage from mercury and other neurotoxins can be reversed. It takes work and the desire to get well. Where there is a will, there is a way - . Finding an ART practitioner who has learned the art well is of immense help and in the long run much easier on the pocketbook. Much of the 50-some different supplements many are taking are just clogging up the system as is clearly indicated by the biofilm. The are not absorbed - without biofilm - we would need a fraction of the nutrients for which we are spending a lot of money.
Sparkle and Friends, I tried. Read some of my many posts. They are all for real, from a real practice, and hopefully helpful to some people. Every day we learn something new - so does Dr. K. Just another evolution. I may want to add here that Dr. K. will advise a patient who still has amalgams, but will not treat because he feels it is wasting the little time he has to spend on children with problems. By the way, most of them are heavy metal toxic and most of them have Lyme and Co. and more and more are strongly affected by electromagnetism.
We have done a number on ourselves! It is time to start putting our thinking hat on.
Take good care and best wishes to all.
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How it will affect the individual that acquires it will vary according to multiple factors, such as genetics, age, type of mercury compound, load of other mercury compounds, other heavy metals, other toxins in the system, the stress level of the individual, their sex, and probably other things.
The liver is the primary organ of mercury detox, though if the toxic metal escapes that sentinel, individual cells have their own method of detoxification. Overwhelm both, and all manner of havoc is possible.
The liver will do its best to keep the mercury from reaching vital tissues by mixing it with bile salts and keeping it in the enterohepatic circulation, but this takes away from the liver's other duties, such as detoxification of other poisons and metabolic waste products, and the hydroxylation of vitamin D.
When neuro symptoms appear, it is a sign that mercury is overwhelming the liver's ability to control it and it is making its way to the nerves, or the vitamin D level is impaired to a degree that it no longer supports the normal cellular maintenance functions.
If the D circulation becomes impaired, the regulation of the immune system and the differentiation of immune effector cells become impaired, and the individual falls victim to any number of usually impotent pathogens, yeast for example.
The well meaning but poorly conceived immunization programs that are implemented in most of the (so called) developed world have exposed all of us to mercury in the form of Thimerosol, unless our parents had the intestinal fortitude and means to fight the system.
In order to minimize the deleterious effects of mercury, one must identify and eliminate or limit exposure to physical and emotional stress, toxins, and nervous system irritants.
The vitamin D metabolism must be studied to determine and understand if support is needed.
The diet must be optimized to contain fresh, preservative free, untainted produce, meats, omega 3 fatty acids and insoluble fiber and whole grains.
Removal of amalgams and root canals should be done with great care by a dentist or oral surgeon who understands the inherent dangers and acts accordingly, and should be done in conjunction with a physician who will manage the mobilization and chelation process.
The failure of the AMA and AOA to develop anti amalgam and anti thimerosol positions is an absolute and utter embarrassment to both of those organizations.
All that being said, mercury is present in the natural world, has been with us since we rose from the primordial soup, and will be present in the universe long after we cease to be a part of it. It likely contributes to the aging process and the generation of most illnesses as we know them. Messenger of the gods indeed.
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Thanks again for all the great info! It gives me hope that there are some people who are aware out there.
It's really a hard one for me due to lack of funds. Also- many so-called "wholistic" dentists are frauds. I've been to some of them.
So, I chose a nice dentist who was through & detail-minded. I tried to educate him about the dangers & explain that I wanted a dental dam & suction throughout the procedure.
I think I could have used a better air filter --- next time.. I think the removal went well, considering it wasn't the complete protocol.
In any case, I'm going to keep it in mind & try to continue on the path towards removal as best as I can.
I just have to ask - "What were they thinking?"
Thanks for all the great info, folks!
PS - I think I did have some very specific tests for mercury (one involving urine, I think). I don't remember the names off hand. I can see how they may be unreliable.
The results were considered low by 2 separate doctors ("tizzy" was my paraphrasing). I just have a feeling that it's still an issue for me.
I just don't like the idea of mercury (something you dispose of in toxic waste dumps) inside my head.
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Sparkle, when you say "Holistic" dentists. What are you ref. to? What did they offer as in services?
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I went to a holistic dentist a while back... probably before I had Lyme. This guy was know as being a "famous" holistic dentist in NYC. More like in-famous... to me in any case.
He was really expensive & had an office in Soho in Manhattan (NYC). He made me wait in his office for about an hour & a 1/2 - I had an appointment.
After the wait... he saw me & poked me in the gums with a sharp instrument & told me I needed an entire scaling procedure which would cost thousands of dollars. He offered a payment plan...
He saw me for a total of 5 minutes & left me there for, like, another 30 minutes. Then he came back & told me I would have to come back & make another appointment.
Of course, I never went back. I made another appointment with a "regular" dentist & he told me that I didn't need scaling at all & my teeth were OK. I was really relieved since I've heard that scaling is quite painful & bloody...
I will never go back to another holistic dentist. Many of them "claim" to be holistic, etc. but don't really do anything special. Maybe they will offer you some homeopathic remedy or a free tooth brush made of recycled plastic...
Sorry if I sound a bit jaded. I think dentists offer way too many procedures that are completely not necessary.
I often wonder if it was necessary to have my wisdom teeth removed when I was in my 20's.
Plus, all the mercury fillings... was that really necessary?
I know some people have real problems with their teeth but I try to take care of mine & avoid the dentist as much as possible.
If you go to a "regular" dentist you can explain to him/her what you want (ie: in the case of mercury removal) & many will comply... & it may save you a ton of cash.
You can take the chlorella & bring in your own air filter mask to use for mercury vapor. Take some extra vit. C after. If they want to breathe in the mercury vapor - it's up to them... Also, ask for the suction to be on for the whole time & request a dental dam.
Holistic dentists will charge extra!
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