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....broke this up especially the runon sentences! EXCELLENT ARTICLE IN OUR FAVOR! Betty ... i emphasized 1 sentence in bold! about truthfulness *********************
May 24, 2008
Lyme Lies: Allen Steere's horrifying comments regarding Lyme disease in last week's commencement address
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As some people are already aware, there's a debate going on regarding Lyme disease (it's actually more like a war) regarding who should be treated for Lyme disease and how long that treatment should be.
(Lyme disease is a bacterial infection caused by tick bites that can lead to debilitating symptoms, including severe neurological problems.)
Allen Steere, as a member of the IDSA (Infectious Diseases Society of America) and having spent decades studying the disease, is well regarded by many as an "expert" on Lyme disease.
[B] Therefore it is of utmost importance that he presents the facts on Lyme disease as they are currently known truthfully to the unknowing public -- especially given his stature in the medical community. [b]
The main problem with this speech and his argument about Lyme Disease, is that he's basing the entire argument on whether or not someone who is ill with Lyme symptoms should be treated
with antibiotic therapy and for how long on diagnostic testing --
presenting diagnostic testing as if these tests were 100% reliable, which is false information --horrifying by someone who is supposed to be honoring the science.
"Diagnostic tests based on scientific studies fail to show evidence of Lyme disease in most of these patients," stated Allen Steere.
It's only true that these patients did indeed 'for sure' not have Lyme disease if it's true that diagnostic tests are 100% accurate-when in fact, Lyme tests have been scientifically proven to produce false negatives.
Therefore, Allen Steere misrepresented the facts about Lyme disease to the Ohio Wesleyan University 2008 graduates.
Since diagnostic testing for Lyme disease is not 100% reliable, then this means some of these patients with negative results might have actually had Lyme disease, making antibiotic therapy appropriate.
Since he states he holds scientific facts so valuably, then why is he basing his argument on whether or not someone should be treated with antibiotic therapy for Lyme disease on a falsehood?
It is irresponsible and an insult to scientific evidence to misrepresent the evidence by leaving out the false negative rate for Lyme tests --
especially by someone who claims to be standing by the science without informing the audience that the science itself has proven not to be 100% reliable --
that it is a scientific proven fact that Lyme tests are not always accurate, making it absolutely necessary to treat some people with Lyme disease
who have negative diagnostic testing-people with no laboratory evidence of the disease -- people on paper who 'scientifically' don't have it.
It seems he's throwing his weight around, using the power of the IDSA and the medical institutions he's connected to, to misrepresent the decisions behind when to treat people with antibiotic therapy for Lyme disease and for how long by omitting a discussion of the false negatives in this speech.
He's right that antibiotics can cause harm, and he's right that there's always going to be patients who get better based on the placebo effect alone -- this is *not* specific to Lyme disease --
However, there's another side to "do no harm": the harm caused when something is not given to someone who needs it (ie, not feeding one's children). Therefore, it should be the patient's decision in collaboration with their physician on how they want to proceed medically when their diagnostic tests have come back negative.
It's a shame that Steere didn't use this speech as an opportunity to talk in depth regarding how many unknowns there are in medicine-
therefore, in order to care for people adequately, it is essential to listen to patient's clinical information until science has all the answers--
since it is impossible to tell the 'faker' from someone who is genuinely recovering, then the medical professional has to make a choice regarding how they want to practice medicine--
based on test results that have been scientifically confirmed to be faulty, or to be a physician who practices medicine based on clinical information and human compassion?
Since the tests are not 100% accurate, then test results are obviously not the only way someone should be diagnosed and determined 'scientifically' to have Lyme disease --
As Steere states in his speech, "If you ignore scientific reality, if you twist it, if you wish for a particular answer, you will miss Mars and drift in space."
The message behind this statement is absolutely correct-it is absolutely vital to honor the science-which includes when the science is saying it doesn't have a definitive answer, and therefore it is impossible to make definitive conclusions regarding all aspects of the disease.
To hold diagnostic testing up as the only marker for determining whether or not someone has Lyme disease is misrepresentation of the disease.
It's amazing to think of how many people are suffering unnecessarily based on the omission of this one key scientific fact-especially since he has a ethical (and legal?) responsibility to share the whole truth.
T. L. Kittle suffers with a chronic illness in the Los Angeles area, gratefully under the care of extraordinary physicians.
Kittle is in the process of establishing a medical non-profit to address issues regarding lack of access to care as well as lack of physician control over medical care.
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KUDOS to the author of the letter above published yesterday! You hit the nail right on the head!
1st, I feel Steere's speech was entirely unacceptable at a "university graduation" ceremony. I could have seen it at a LYME DISEASE conference, but a graduation ceremony like this ... nope!
To the writer, those of us with CHRONIC LYME disease have a really hard time reading solid block text and run-on sentences all in one long paragraph.
Just a suggestion to break them up in the future so they are short paragraphs that we can comprehend and read.
You stated, " Steere, as a member of the IDSA (Infectious Diseases Society of America) and having spent decades studying the disease, is well regarded by many as an "expert" on Lyme disease. "
Well, as a chronic lyme patient of 38 years; 34 years misdiagnosed by 40 - 50 doctors/specialists, I have a completely different view on him.
To study a disease and then to daily TREAT Chronic lyme patients, he could then be considered an "expert".
HOWEVER, Steere does NOT believe in Chronic lyme disease and does NOT treat Chronic lyme patients!
IDSA, infectious drs., treat for LESS than 30 days only!
Lyme spirochete in the body multiplty every 28 days. They are even giving ONE antibiotic pill, and poof, "you are cured"! HOG WASH.
Steere may see those who have a tick embedded or lucky enough to get a BULLS-EYE RASH, and they are the ones who have a chance of being CURED if given antibiotics LONG enough and strong enough!
A patient should be symptom free for 2 months before quitting antibiotics or then end up like us .... chronic lyme!
Quoting the writer, "It seems he's throwing his weight around, using the power of the IDSA and the medical institutions he's connected to, to misrepresent the decisions behind when to treat people with antibiotic therapy for Lyme disease and for how long by omitting a discussion of the false negatives in this speech."
Again, you are completely right in your statement about his throwing his power around.
Yes, the lyme war controversy is going very strong and especially in Congress where we lyme patients have had LYME DISEASE BILL, HR 741 and S 1708, there for 10.5 years waiting for any action!
We have been fighting to get our lyme bill asking for a tick-borne advisory committee and $250,000 be given yearly until the end of 2011.
We've been calling daily, faxing, emailing House Rep. Frank Pallone's and Senator Ted Kennedy's office, both chairs of health sub-committee.
We've done the same to ALL our federal senators/house reps in DC trying to get our bills on the AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK when our time runs out AGAIN!
All we chronic lyme patients want is EQUAL TREATMENT like cancer, AIDS/HIV, and other illnesses where our health insurance companies will pay our bills as they do the above!
Currently MAJORITY of us have to pay out of pocket!
It's a huge hardship since we're sick a lot; have been fired; lost our health insurance; spouses divorce us; losing custody of children; losing our homes, bankruptcy, being homeless, and those NOT treated promptly and long enough DYING! Way too many dying and so young!
Again, that you for your uplifting letter whoever wrote this! KUDOS from the entire chronic lyme community. Sincerely....
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This article is not anonymous was written by: T. L. Kittle suffers with a chronic illness in the Los Angeles area, gratefully under the care of extraordinary physicians.
Kittle is in the process of establishing a medical non-profit to address issues regarding lack of access to care as well as lack of physician control over medical care.
SOURCE T.L. Kittle
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....kay, i stand corrected; i could not understand that she was the writer at all!
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Dr. Steere is out of his league, he needs to stop taking checks from big pharma and sit his *** down. No one wants to hear some blowhard proclaim how he's the kind of scientific principle.
I'd like to see him go to Mars, personally.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
"After my medical residency, I applied for a position at the Centers for Disease Control. This turned out to be the lift-off of my medical
research career. I learned the science of evaluating outbreaks of disease. After my two-year stint at CDC, I began a fellowship in rheumatology or arthritic diseases at Yale in New Haven,
Connecticut. You probably think of arthritis as a disease of older people. You may be less aware that inflammatory arthritis is a common
manifestation of autoimmune diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus, and these illnesses often affect younger adults, and even children.
Several months after starting my fellowship in 1975, I learned from a friend at CDC about a cluster of children in Lyme, Connecticut who
were thought to have juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. My friend learned of these children from two concerned mothers
in Lyme, a small town only 25 miles from Yale. There is another connection. Dr.
Robert Gifford, the trustee at Ohio Wesleyan who introduced me, was at that time, a junior faculty member in Yale's Rheumatology Division.
One of those concerned mothers contacted Dr. Gifford about taking care of her family. Soon after the call from my friend at CDC, Dr. Gifford casually remarked, ``I am
scheduled to see a whole family with arthritis, all 4 children and both parents. What do you think of that? And by the way, they are from Lyme, Connecticut''. Arthritis in children is
relatively rare. Have you known of a child with arthritis? One child, maybe, but an entire family, that was unheard of.
An investigation was begun. We attempted to find all children in Lyme with arthritis. We identified 39 such children in this small town.
Their joints were painful and swollen, as in juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, but the clustering of cases was the
striking finding. On some roads, one house after another had an affected
child. Nothing like this had been described previously. Just as Galileo had plotted the location of the planets, we plotted the location
of affected children on a map. We noted when cases occurred. We explored exposures that the children may have
shared in common. Shockingly, the pattern of disease in the community was suggestive of an insect-borne
illness, and further investigation specifically implicated ticks. This idea was just as surprising to us, as the idea probably was to Galilieo that the Earth revolved around the Sun.
Time magazine reported, ``a number of children in Lyme had
arthritis, but doctors at Yale proposed the radical idea that Lyme arthritis was actually a tick-transmitted infection''. I can't tell you how many times in my research career, the
reality, the truth, turned out to be the opposite, the opposite of the way it seemed.
This insight about tick transmission provided the correct orbit, which allowed the rest of the puzzle to fall into place. Although it took
years of work, a previously
unrecognized spirochetal bacterium was then isolated from implicated ticks and from patients with Lyme disease. With this knowledge, specific
diagnostics tests could be developed, and curative antibiotic regimens could be worked out. Before this knowledge, we saw patients suffer with Lyme disease for years. Now, they
could usually be cured with antibiotics in several weeks.
Despite the many successes of modern medicine, the human body remains incredibly complicated, and our understanding is still limited. With many
illnesses, for example, autism, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, we struggle to understand and help. These and other tragic illnesses
continue to exact a terrible toll
on patients and their families. However, in the developed world, peoples' expectations have
totally changed. One hundred years ago, people accepted that illness, disability, and early death were frequent. They had no choice. Now, as a consequence of the many successes of science
and medicine, people expect a long and healthy life.
I never expected how patients' heightened expectations would affect Lyme disease. Over the past several decades, a Lyme disease
counterculture has emerged that has ascribed a range of puzzling and poorly understood illnesses to this tick-borne infection. For example, debilitating fatigue or pain syndromes
affect millions of
people. You say, ``college students frequently feel fatigued''. But imagine the worst pain that you ever had, day after day, or that every day
of your life is like your worst day. Medical tests may not reveal a cause. Patients suffer; their families suffer. As physicians, we struggle to understand and help. Such patients
are sometimes now
diagnosed as having ``chronic Lyme disease''.
The media presents testimonials about these patients. They communicate with one another via the Internet. A patient says, ``I was cured by
antibiotics which I took for two years''. We
are not told, and indeed no one knows, how many patients were not helped, or were even harmed by such therapy. Based on these testimonials, the
lay public has come to think that pain
and fatigue syndromes are the reality of Lyme disease
But science says no. Diagnostic tests based on scientific studies fail to show evidence of Lyme disease in most of these patients. Additionally,
5 studies of pain and fatigue syndromes following Lyme disease reported that placebo treatment with a sugar pill gave similar results as long-term antibiotics. If you ignore
scientific
reality, if you twist it, if you wish for a particular answer, you will miss Mars and drift in space. Physicians, like myself, have said ``scientific evidence does not support
giving antibiotics for years for Lyme disease''. They have been denounced, threatened, and harassed.
No single medical advance has had a greater impact on human health than vaccines. Although a small percentage of individuals have serious
side effects from vaccination, vaccines in general are much, much less harmful than the infections they prevent. However, as with the Lyme disease story, vaccines have become a
vehicle to explain a host of poorly understood illnesses. People have claimed passionately that a vaccine causes autism. Class-action lawsuits
resulting from these claims threaten the vaccine industry. And this is what happened to the Lyme disease vaccine. Over the past decade, two drug
companies did extensive studies concerning the efficacy and safety of a newly developed Lyme disease vaccine for human use. In 1998, the FDA
licensed the vaccine. But the Lyme disease counterculture said ``vaccination for Lyme disease made my symptoms worse''. Despite a lack of scientific evidence that the vaccine caused
harm, the manufacturer
withdrew it in 2002 primarily due to the threat of class-action lawsuits. When science and medicine are divorced, our efforts lead nowhere; we drift in space."
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I have to tell you...if a placebo effect was going to work as he is suggesting here then I would have already been successfully treated! Since I have been diagnosed and treated by
MANY different regimines prior to dx and treatment with abx!!! If it was just having a dx and a pill to take as a placebo effect...
man yeah....I can sit here and think of sooo many that I "did" and so many dx that did not "cure me" or even help me along the road!!!
SOOOO MANY DEAD ENDS UNTIL I WAS DX WITH LYME AND STARTED TX....ONLY THEN DID I HAVE ANY SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT THAT LASTED MORE THAT 3 DAYS CONSISTENTLY!!!!!
STEER YOU CAN KISS MY %$$!
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Great job TL Kittle! I'm going to reply right now.
Notice how the article is on the Fox Business page. And it can easily be rated!
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I rated it and also added it to Stumble Upon.
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OK.
I emailed my long letter to the editor.
Not only can TL Kittle's commentary be rated, it can be recommended (right next to where you rate it.) Quick! Before IDSA sheisters start rating it!
I'm writing about your article of May 24, 2008, on the Fox Business site titled, "Lyme Lies: Allen Steere's horrifying comments ..."
I have chronic Lyme disease. IDSA doctors who wrote the Lyme Guidelines were found to have conflicts of interest through an investigation by Connecticut Attorney General Blumenthal.
The IDSA Guidelines for Lyme are fraudulent. It was the first time a US medical society was investigated. Challenged. IDSA represents infectious disease doctors coast-to-coast.
Thank you for printing this great story. TL Kittle's commentary is right on the nose.
Even the CDC (Centers for Disease Control; run by IDSA doctors) has been forced to admit that only 10% of Lyme cases are reported by doctors.
That means there are millions of badly hurting adults and children in our country.
The overwhelming majority have no idea that the name for what has torn-up their body and what has torn-up their lives is chronic Lyme disease.
A common saying in the Lyme community is: I'd rather have cancer, than this.
That means their signs and symptoms are painful beyond belief--and there is no relief as there are no painkillers.
The only way to stop the pain is suicide or high dose, prolonged, multiple antibiotics--and that will temporarily make symptoms worse as the germs are killed off (called a Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction.)
But most conventional doctors do not accept that there is such a thing as chronic Lyme disease. If the patient hurts, they are prescribed various painkillers--that don't work for Lyme.
Marketers of painkillers abound in the conventional medical field. When we're made better, painkiller makers lose profits.
High cholesterol and lipids are a symptom of chronic Lyme. Marketers of statins abound in the conventional medical field. When we're made better, statin makers lose profits.
People with cancer get diagnosed and then treated.
Most chronic Lyme patients, in fact, are not diagnosed and treated--not until usually the patient figures out what their illness is called and then they have to fight to get treatment--and often lose.
They fight for their illness to be recognized by their network of doctors and nearly always lose. They fight to stay off the street. I'm termed "homeless veteran."
I had Bell's palsy and was ignored by my neurologists: I am self-diagnosed with Bell's.
I had head pain so horrid that the Mayo clinic and Yale do not have a name for it: they do not recognize head pain this awful. LLMD's know it's caused by Lyme Encephalopathy, for one: inflammation of the brain.
I called it "a brick in my head" and later "my brain is on fire" and "brain sizzling."
My entire right side was in severe pain, along with Lyme arthritis: I remember dragging along my right side to limp into the doctor's office to ask, once again, "What's wrong with me?"
I could not use a cane because that required multitasking and I was not capable of that.
This is a grotesque illness. Some die. Chronic Lyme disease is always a brain infection of the Lyme pathogen. It causes a variety of neurological aberrations and severe cognitive trouble.
Their reply was always to ignore me, by saying in "so many words," if I thought there was something wrong, then that means I need an antidepressant.
Marketers of antidepressants abound in the conventional medical field. When we're made better, antidepressant makers lose profits.
Or they imply we are making up signs and symptoms, meaning we need an antidepressant. Gotta sell those antidepressants.
I'm much better now, because I've been under the care of a Lyme-literate MD (LLMD) who's name must be kept secret to protect him or her from legal action. My LLMD follows the ILADS Guidelines (www.ilads.org.)
Every LLMD practices medicine in fear of loosing their license to practice. Who would do that? Hero doctors!
They treat the hurting patient sitting in front of them who has come to them for help. Or brought their child wanting the LLMD to make him or her better so that they can go back to school some day.
They want the LLMD to stop their child's pain.
Very often people with chronic Lyme are desperate because they can not work to support their family--or they fear they soon will be unable to work.
They fear, then what will become of their family? It is wholly frightening.
Some parents have watched their children die because Steere and the IDSA dictated that they should not be allowed a clinical diagnosis and / or that they should not be allowed medication that would save their life and make them far, far better.
Chronic Lyme disease can cause MS (which costs the government a million dollars in experimental drugs, per patient,) lupus, scleroderma, Lou Gehrig's (ALS,) heart attack (Lyme carditus--Lyme germs in the heart muscle,) fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, Alzheimer's, autism and more.
Parkinson's patients sometimes have a history of Lyme.
We have Bill HR741 sitting in a House committee becasue represetative Pallone, the chairman, refuses to take action. Bill S 1708 is sitting in the Senate--Senator Kennedy would need to bring it up for a hearing.
It would provide funding to alert and educate doctors, to alert and educate the public, to back research, and to develop an accurate test.
Steere and the IDSA are murderers and / or attempted murderers. They are killers in America, allowed to continue their rampage. Please stop them!
If Fox wants the story of the century (so far) then here it is: chronic Lyme disease. There are many horrid family stories to be found and many avenues of the results of dirty Big Pharma.
It is profits over patients. Follow the money. Please keep exposing the sheisters--but step it up by an order of magnitude, please--for the story of the century!
Please contact Pat Smith of the Lyme Disease Association (I used her email here)
Please contact Dr. Charles Ray Jones who is in the midst of a wrenching trial because he saved the lives of thousands of children with Lyme. (Charles Ray Jones, MD; Madison Towers; 111 Park Street, 1st Floor; New Haven, CT 06511)
Please contact PJ Langhoff, author of the recent, It's All In Your Head, Books 1 and 2. Book 2 is collection of horror stories that are typical--written by patients! That's what's special about it.
Book 3 will be out soon. It's about the politics and big money of Lyme disease. (I used her email here)
Please contact CT AG Blumenthal.
It's America turned upside down. Lyme is worldwide. Please ask the people of Germany!
We hear in the news regularly about Hanta virus, West Nile virus and plague. Why not Lyme disease?
Did the CDC do what Congress commissioned them to do: Alert you and your family about the ravages of this epidemic?
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....DAISE, 5 STARS; brilliant, outstanding, and you touched on every imaginable thing in your letter to them, which you pasted here for us to enjoy also!
KUDOS
i kept saying to myself; this is good, and then it kept getting BETTER! So glad you addressed you are a HOMELESS VET, and all the other wonderful links you left!
Glad you sent me a pm as this was buried by the time i got here!! WELL DONE DAISE! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK WRITING GALORE!!
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Thanks, betty and larkspur.
I haven't received acknowledgment of the email letter, from the editor ...
quote:Some of his objectives and subjects seemed to be:
to compare himself loosely to Galileo;
to infer that he is responsible for "new thinking"--hence controversy;
to inaccurately define a tick as an "insect" which it isn't--it's an arachnid more closely related to spiders!;
to whine incessantly about the failure of the Lyme vaccine--(which was laid to rest years ago because it was rushed onto the market and was unsafe);
to claim there is no scientific evidence for chronic Lyme--(is science or medicine supposed to be this stupid?);
to charge patients with being overly optimistic in expecting to feel well after treatment--well shucks, imagine that!;
to talk to college graduates as if they were 3rd graders comparing the scientific process metaphorically with a trip to Mars--quoting one Steven Squyres of NASA: " like throwing a basketball from New York to Los Angeles--I paraphrase--"one goof, miscalculation or ignoring of scientific reality, you miss Mars, drifting eternally in space."
There's so much fodder here we could write a dissertation, but since our "expert" brought up Galileo why don't we examine this vis a vis his subsequent statement that "research is a group endeavor"(?).
Am I wrong or was Galileo a lone pioneer whose life was ruined and whose research was halted by threats from a looming, ominous bureaucracy?--the inquisition!
Wasn't he threatened with the horrors of the "auto de fe"? Regardless, I don't recall any history of him roistering around Verona with about 13 like minded cohorts or being the beneficiary of huge foundation grants;
or for that matter being a member of an organization that suppressed the studies of others he and his sidekicks disagreed with!
Considering alone that our "expert" doesn't know an arachnid from an insect, nor an historical pioneer in science from IDSA members, I think our "expert" has missed Mars widely and is drifting, drifting, drifting, eternally in space....
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The DEVIL'S MOUTHPIECE speaks again. Poisoning minds .
Polluting the air with drivel. HE should do what GREATER
scientists have done in the past ie gave themselves the Disease they were studying . And there are many who did
this in the NAME of SCIENCE . He can then let us know WHO is ignoring SCIENTIFIC REALITY AND TWISTING IT .(His words) People do not cause Financial Hardship on Treatments they do not need.
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Do u know what should happen to this guy in my mind right now?
He I dont think would exist in about one minute.
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That man sickens me!!!!!
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LET THE MAN STEP FORWARD. LET HIM BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO TEST OUT HIS OWN THEORIES. ALLOW HIMSELF TO BECOME CHRONIC.
THIS WILL DESPEL THIS MYTH OF HIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
THIS MAN MAKES THE DEVIL LOOK LOOK LIKE A SAINT.
I AM APALED THAT THIS GROUP OF MEN CAN HAVE ALL THIS POWER AND ALLOWED TO SPREAD SO MUCH SUFFERING WORLDWIDE.
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Northstar and all,
Steere exists in his own small world. Trouble is, he's trying to make us do that, too, by hijacking we Lyme patients (whether we know we have Lyme or not.)
I re-read the letter I wrote a month ago and I saw some mistakes in editing.
But Steere does his mistakes on purpose.
He's running personlly scared out of his wits and can't think morally. He's up against a wall--because he sold his soul.
He knows it's all going to back-fire on him.
What do you suppose he and his buddies talk about?
This guy is going to get pounced on when the public learns about this.
When the public finally realizes the magnitude of this situation these doctors are going to go down in history as absolute villans who let an epidemic get out of control.
The wholes in his argument are so obvious its actually amusing.
He can't possibly think he's right, at this point I think its just damage control for him. He's simply trying to prolong the inevitable.
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NJ LYme 82,
Wow, excellent post!!! You put it all so succinctly and so perfectly. I agree one hundred percent!!!
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Steere deserves my golden poop award....for steereing us in the wrong direction while looking for help with tick borne diseases.
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GREAT article. I still find it so hard to believe that with all of our out roar, protesting, calls, news articles, etc, etc, etc, that this still seems to find a way of getting burried and kept secret.
WHAT IS GOING ON??????? If I wasn't living this nightmare first hand, I wouldn't even believe it could be happening. Unreal.
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M. Doolittle (HW) presents another hilarious and creative commentary on the "cabal"!!!
I have no idea who this M. Doolittle is, but she/he is hysterical! Class Act!!
quote: Well, as per my inspired projection based on Blumenthal's raking of the dominant Lyme research muck, his report, with extrapolations from P. Weintraub's new book, [thanks (kudos!), to the Attorney Gen'l of Ct. and Weintraub],
it seems to me reasonably confirmed that the former, entire, effete panel have all been exponged --or soon to be--; banashed as it were, to the gutter-slurry of the proverbial four littered corners.
That means "the dirty dozen" may now be forced to haunt the more maloderous, reeking grottos and slackwaters from which I assume, they most probably sprang; like Cambrian Stomatolytes, without the intellect to comprehend the misery of their own existence.
This seems both suitable and just.
According to some of my most deeply embedded (no pun) and anonymous sources; some of whom are heavily slanted to the whimsical side, a person who appears a dead ringer for a former Lyme "expert" recently observed outside Penn. Station, N.Y., selling newspapers from a broken down wagon while screaming foul expletives about lack of scientific evidence for Lyme and failure of the Lymerix vaccine.
He wore black dress slacks with tan(?) socks (remember the Hartford hearings), and was bald. He was eventually caught in a large butterfly net and after a brief scuffle in which several officers were bitten and scratched, hauled away by police.
Really an academician of former prominance? Your guess is as good as mine.
Another character strongly resembling a Lyme hotshot and panel member, I was told (I believe during one of my Lyme induced seizures) was reported to me observed recently just outside of Sloatsburg, N.Y., hard by the abattoir and river, carving every dead tree in sight into countless aeolian pipes! (hard work this, among the incessant droning of a thousand insects).
During this demented worker's frequent pauses he seemed to find great delight in hurling parcels of decomposing fat to the singularly giant local beetles as they scuttled up and down the grease laden and noxious levy finding it hard to choose between the lipid feast and the washed up remnants of cattle bone and hide.
I'm told the overall impression was odious in the extreme, compounded by the swelling swarms of Bluebottle flies and clots of boiling maggots and my gasping informer claimed to have lost consciousness and upon awaking from the swoon fled in great haste and loathing, his throat awash with a bitter black bile.
He claimed the myasmic odor clung in his sinuses for days. This couldn't actually have been a self claimed "expert" , could it?
I wonder what will truly become, teleolistically I mean, of these erstwhile panel members
(I need to find my dictionary!)
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