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I'm on a very STRICT budget..single mom two children, one with lyme. I've reviewed Dr. B's list of supplements and can not afford to purchase all of them.
What is the absolute most important ones? Acidophilus of course is number one but what else?
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I currently an taking a multi-V with Iron, Vit C, Magnesium for occasional muscle twitches, a supplement called "Power Plus" which is loaded with essential amino acids for muscle growth & nutrition and mitochondia support.
Also acidophilus, yogurt "Dannon Activia" and a prescription for Nystatin which is an anti-fugal/anti-yeast mouth swish.
One other item I take every so often is Malic Acid with Magnesium. Many people with fibromyalgia and cronic fatigue conditions are told that it is a must for cellular oxygenation and nutrition.
However I often wonder that maybe these items along with the antibiotic is too much load on my liver and kidneys. I tend to drink plenty of fluids and keep my fiber intake high.
Good Luck
Dave
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One more thing which helps me a lot with the insomnia that comes and goes is "Melantonin"-(3mg tablet)right before bed with no lights, TV, radio etc.
Dave
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Duh.. editing to add.... I misread what you wrote!! I thought you said it was expensive!
Anyway, in answer to the original question... Yes to acidophilus and magnesium for sure. I also take CoQ10 and milk thistle, among other things.
MSM if you have pain.
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A good quality multi-vitamin with natural (not synthetic) A (as beta carotene) and E (as toph. something).
Minerals (especially magnesium to calm down my overexcited cells)
Milk thistle, some good EFA's - essential fatty acids, probiotics and NAC.
NAC is a precursor to glutatione and helps in many ways.
Cordyceps or ashwagandha are good adrenal tonics.
I'll go heavy on turmeric in cooking or add curcumin tablets for the anti-inflammatory effects.
Vitamin C - ester - is often at good prices.
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Some find help with glutamate supplement, but a note of caution for anyone who may have a seizure disorder - glutamate is converted to glutamic acid and too much can be too stimulating to the brain for some easily "wired" from certain supplements or certain foods.
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As Gigi posted before stay away from any supplement that contains magnesium stearate which seems to be in numerous supplements including some Jarrow products and even in some Metagenics products and some probiotics.
Magnesium stearate and titanium dioxide help allow biofilms to form.
I do take Reservatrol Plus by Pure Encapsulations which contains plant fiber as "other ingredients" I wonder what that really is and if it is bad for you?
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After spending literally thousands of dollars on dozens and dozens of different supplements over the last 3 years, I am now convinced that a lot of them just gave me expensive urine.
I have streamlined my supplements to those that I think are key (for our overall health, not just for lyme): -magnesium (citrate or malate or combination thereof) -buffered Vit C -B complex -probiotic of choice (I take Florastor) -essential fatty acid of choice (I take flax seed oil) -melatonin (for chronic insomnia)
And of course the most important, a well-balanced diet including lots of power foods.
Good luck!
Jen
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If you can't afford a prescription for diflucan or nystatin, I recommend candex. You can get it from vitamin shoppe and it's very reasonable. works too...
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whats the deal with biofilm. My LLMD doesnt believe it.
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I did 3 bottles of Candex with zero results. I was told by an employee at the health food store that Candidase is stronger so I have moved on to that and am awaiting results. I did notice some improvement with Bio K.
My LLMD is concerned with magnesium stearate and biofilms.
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Interesting.
I am so chemically sensitive now that I cant anything that kills candida. I get burning in my feet and become suicidal.
Its very strange.
Ive been taking welchol daily with no results but because its intert I will continue to take it.
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quote:Originally posted by docjen: After spending literally thousands of dollars on dozens and dozens of different supplements over the last 3 years, I am now convinced that a lot of them just gave me expensive urine.
I have streamlined my supplements to those that I think are key (for our overall health, not just for lyme): -magnesium (citrate or malate or combination thereof) -buffered Vit C -B complex -probiotic of choice (I take Florastor) -essential fatty acid of choice (I take flax seed oil) -melatonin (for chronic insomnia)
And of course the most important, a well-balanced diet including lots of power foods.
Good luck!
Jen
LOL....expensive urine. I agree
The one thing I need to point out is, Florater is simply S Boulardii. Which is a probiotic, but s boulardii is only one strain and does not cover any other stains. Floraster (s boulardii is good to ward of or heal from c diff), but not a good everyday probiotic.
Floraster is also overpriced. You're paying for the brand name. S boulardii on it's own, w/out the fancy name is 1/2 the price. But again, not a good broad spectrum probiotic.
My list would be
1: broad spectrum probiotic
2: Milk Thistle (a must have when on abx)
3- essesial oil such as flax. But not a cheap capsule. Cold pressed oil is the only way to reep the benefits from flax
4- Apple cider vinegar. Organic, unfiltered, unpasturized with "mother" in it. This cleans out the blood, helps kill yeast and stomach bacteria, provides a wealth of vits and minerals and I also use it to help me sleep. It's also VERY inexpensive.
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Did you read the article I referred you to regarding excitotoxins?
Many Lyme patients have problems taking glutamine. Pre-Lyme hubby took it to heal gastritis -- since Lyme he can't take it. It can convert to glutamic acid which is a neurotoxin.
For him it causes increased tremors/myoclonus -- an almost immediate reaction. He can't even take most of the protein powder supplements because of their high glutamine content.
MSG and aspartame (nutrasweet) can be problematic as well.
Bea Seibert
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For those with severe neuro problems CoQ10 would be my number one supplement of choice. Also good for cardiac issues.
Many people can benefit from SAM-e as well. Helps the methylation pathway.
l-theanine is helpful for mood problems.
These are probably hubby's top 3 supplements -- and he has tried just about everything. Even when money is tight these are the absolute essentials for him.
I think we spend more in supplements than we spend for food every month, but have tried stopping and that just doesn't work.
Hubby takes acidophilus and s.boularrdi both.
I rotate everything else around and am always trying new things. About once a week I count out all his supplements in little baggies for morning, noon and night. He never knows what he is taking except for some he recognizes by sight. I keep a list of any changes from week to week so I guess you could say he is my double-blind study on what helps and what doesn't.
Ran out of ox bile recently and it didn't take us either one long to figure out that that was still needed.
Bea Seibert
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8. EFA's ( I use Udo's choice DHA oil on my food- it's kinda pricy- $30 in hawaii- but last a month- really helps lubricate the joints and brain!!)
9. Electrolytes
I'd also really recommend CHLORELLA from Biopure....I really love their stuff....it helps with the toxin load...and also is VERy nutritious! seriously recommended!!! (have no association with the company- just love their product)
Also, detox teas are great...Bija or Wellaments (sp?) have great ones!
Fiber is really important too!
I know that's quit the list... just me... I actually take a few more...he he
much love~
Fawne
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Seibert, I'll talk to kayasmom, and maybe we will take Kaya off of the Glutamine for a couple of weeks and see what it does. Kaya is on it, because our first LLMD before we got into Dr.J
told us we sould put her on it! So, it was under the advice of a doctor! The LLMD is on it and so is her child. They both have Lyme also!
What will it hurt if we take Kaya off of it! At least we will know if its hurting her or not!
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