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Kiwikid
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I found out that I had Lyme over a year ago. It took three doctors and about five months after symptoms started to get the diagnosis. I ulitimately found a LLMD out of state who treated me. I was on Doxy for approximately 8 months. I got off of them and have done quite well till a few weeks ago. I had been to see my LLMD and he said that appeared my system was now fighting off the bacteria, so he was good with me going off.

In the last few weeks and occurring more frequently one of my original symptoms was sweats and then chills. This symptom is now going on many times throughout the day and night. No fever involved. If you were me would you start back on the antibiotics again for a couple of weeks to see if these symptoms go away? I have plenty of Doxy left.

This stuff is intolerable. I am going back to my LLMD in August for a final followup, which may now not be the final followup. Do you think this is Lyme or some adrendal problem? Opinions please and thanks!

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Lymetoo
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Could very well be babesia. Call his office and ask if he would start you on meds for it. I would not wait until August.

Sorry this happened to you.

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wow, you're relapsing w/something. 8 months of doxy doesn't necessarily kill lyme.

Babesia does cause sweats.

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Kiwikid
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Lymetoo, thanks. I will call dr. c. and see what he thinks? Thanks. He is an incredible doctor but the first time I went it was so overwhelming with the big words, etc.

But he is a good guy and a brilliant doctor.

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Keep us posted!

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I got a call back from dr.c's nurse and she said he said to go ahead and go back on Doxy since that is what I took before with same symptoms. If doesn't work, move to something else. Has anyone else used Doxy for Babesi?

You know what? This all sucks!!! But I did get to go see my son down under during my "well" phase. Thanks everyone.

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He kept you on Doxy for 8 months.. And he told you to stop because your own immune system was now fighting it.. I can't see him saying that. I mean really. Your own immune system is going to fight off Borelli? Has he asked you to switch abx's once you platue on one??

I see him too. We have a support group in our area. I have never heard of any one being treated the way you are being treated.

I have asked him about co-infections. He does not treat them because he said the same abx's that are used for Masters/Lyme is used for the co-infections.

Once you quit taking the abx how long did it take for the symptoms to come back? I thought I was healed a few times and quit taking them and the symptoms came back in about 3-7 days. He told me next time if I feel symptom free to keep taking the abx's for about 2 months once I feel symptom free then after the two months then try and quit.

He actually told you that your own immune system was now working to fight the infection off.. wow.

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Man!! I thought kiwi said 8 wks and I was rather confused by THAT!!!

Dr C treated ME for coinfections. Didn't you get a list of what med to go to next, etc if you plateaued?

In my opinion, doxy does nothing for babesia. Some people say it does.

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i really don't know about a lot of this stuff, but 8 months doesn't sound like enough time to be on antibiotics for lyme...

maybe a misunderstanding or something....

geez, i don't know....but i do think you should go back on something....

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I agree about the possibility of babs.

Were you symptom-free for two months before stopping abx? Did you try switching things around (new meds) before getting off abx?

If the doxy doesn't work quickly, I'd call again and ask for something for possible coinfections.

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First a single abx such as Doxy will not cure Lyme no matter how long you take it.

Lyme takes several forms in your body; spirochete, cycst etc. and can reside in many parts of your body. This is why most LLMD's treat with differnt abx based upon symptoms- pain vs cognitive as well as cycst busters such as bixan and palqunal (sp) that can kill the cystic forms.

One of the key problems with the Lyme bacteria is that it is NOT universally controlled by a single antibiotic- say like Syphilis.

Second I would also get checked for co-infections such as Babesia and Bartonolla as the sweats are very common to Babesia.

For what it's worth I learned the hard way. Got bit and Lyme 10 years ago. Given 2 weeks of Doxy, then a month or so more 6-8 months later.

Fast forward 9 years and I was never better till I saw a real LLMD, found out I most likely was still very positive for Lyme with 10 positive bands of WB and very positive for co-infections Babesia and Bartonolla-- that I had never really heard about before.

Now after 5 months of treatment 3 for babeisa and 2 for bartonolla-- im felling better, not 100% but better.

Take care

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Hi Kiwikid

Do you remember how long it went from the time you stopped abx, until you started feeling worse again?

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O.K. here's what happened folks. I originally had symptoms (fatigue, hot, cold) for approximately 4-5 months before I got the Lyme diagnosis. I was put on Doxy for about 7-8 months. Then one night after that 7-8 months, I did something stupid and I took two abx with some milk late at night and went to bed. That was early Feb. Low and behold I burned my esophogus. I don't what I was thinking but I knew better. I went to gastro doc. He said stop taking all meds immediately, he said for sure I had a couple of ulcers. It was agony like I have never known, couldn't even swallow water. Called Lyme doc and he agreed with that, of course. After starting to get well from ulcers, I didn't go back on antibiotics, as was feeling good. It is now June 10 and no symtoms till last couple of weeks. So I went almost four months with no symptoms. When I was originally was diagnosed and did my own research I was under the impression the sooner you go it, which was like I said about five months, that I would not have to take ABXs for years catching the Lyme within several months. I appreciate all you and I am now so confused. End of April went to Lyme doc, told him had been off ABXs since Feb and doing fine. He did tell me that my body was now probably fighting off the Lyme (not in those exact words) and my husband was sitting right there. We had come back from NZ and he did say that and to live a stress free life. (I just asked my husband if that was said, yes)
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Sixgoofykids, yes I was symptom free for a lot of months while on ABX's (Doxy) never felt the need to go to next med. In fact I kept wondering why I was taking them at times, maybe that's why I got lax and forgot and took those two right before bedtime and screwed up the esophogus. That's the only reason I stopped.

In fact I just came back from gastro doc, had a scope to look at esophogus today. All healed from that ordeal. So I couldn't take any abx or anything today.

And yes, if I don't see any results pretty quick, I will call him and see what to do next.

Everyone, I am not as literate in the Lyme world as you all. I have done a lot of research when I found out, but I also know that I tend to dwell too much sometimes and I have to back away.
I've got the books, etc. Thank you.

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Don't apologize, kiwi. You're doing great! I'm sorry you burned your esophagus.

I'm having trouble with mine too, though it's not because of abx... unless I messed it up when I was taking abx for a sinus infection over the past months.

I'm glad you hear that yours is healed up!!!

Relax and get started on the meds when you can.

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I really hope it works for you. It's good to hear about people who are cured quickly. My daughter only had to take abx for 8 months and three of those were symptom-free.

My daughter did have a Lyme flare up when she got the flu, but it self-resolved and hasn't come back at all in the past couple months. The doctor has kept her on some of the Cowden herbs to keep her in remission and aid her immune system.

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