Marnie
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Far infrared at 880nM should work!
Bb infects the gamma/*delta* T cells.
Bb has a PKC INHIBITOR...which I am pretty sure is PKC DELTA.
Delta = PPi.
Bb needs phosphorus for motility - flagella...enabling it to swim away...
So...Bb gets that phosphorus from ATP -> ADP = glycolysis pathway is kicking in...too little ATP is being made.
We need to add phosphorus back into the infected cells to "charge them".
How?
Heat. (Normally prostaglandin PGE-1 can trigger a fever.)
Heat triggers PGE-1 (COX-1 Promotes PGE 1 in Vascular Cells) which triggers adenylate cyclase
Which:
"catalyzes the conversion of ATP to 3',5'-cyclic AMP (cAMP) and
***pyrophosphate.***"
Pyrophosphate = PPi (delta) is then available to help out the infected gamma/delta T cells.
Pyrophosphate is also called a bisphosphate.
(Fosamax is a bisphosphate, man-made...they just linked the wrong mineral to it. Nice try though.)
Direct quote!:
***"Amino-bisphosphonates are potent activators of human gamma/delta T cells."***
Now what happens if we have a deadly infection where there is LOTS of Adenylate cyclase is released?
Cholera.
"The clinical description of cholera begins with sudden onset of massive diarrhea. The patient may lose gallons of
protein-free fluid
and associated electrolytes, bicarbonates and ions within a day or two.
This results from the activity of the cholera enterotoxin which
activates the adenylate cyclase enzyme in the intestinal cells, converting them into pumps which *extract water and electrolytes* from blood and tissues and pump it into the lumen of the intestine.
This loss of fluid leads to dehydration, anuria, acidosis and shock. The watery diarrhea is speckled with flakes of mucus and epithelial cells ("rice-water stool") and contains enormous numbers of vibrios.
The loss of potassium ions may result in cardiac complications and circulatory failure. Untreated cholera frequently results in high (50-60%) mortality rates."
Ideally, you'd be producing enough PGE-1, but can't because the prostaglandins need another enzyme to be made:
Delta-6 Desaturase (D6D).
"Omega-3 and omega-6 are further broken down into Prostaglandins by the enzyme known as Delta-6 Desaturase (D6D)."
You are using D6D up...making PGE-2.
D6D is important enzyme involved in the conversion of essential fatty acids to prostaglandins. It is deficient or inhibited in diabetes, obesity, older people, and ***in the presence of insulin*, coffee, trans fatty acids, or alcohol***.
This enzyme (D6D) needs zinc and Bb has "zinc fingers" and is PFK dependent (controls glycolysis) which is activated by INSULIN.
Magnesium is needed to make prostaglandins:PGE-1 and PGE- 3 which are anti-inflammatory.
Did you think I wouldn't mention Mg? ;-)
Increased ATP will drive Mg back into the cells..and enough can displace Mn and Zn.
Now about which far infrared machine is most effective, how long, where to aim, at what $ ???
Support your OWN immune system. Heal those gamma/delta T cells. Give them enough energy (PPi) to do their job.
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klutzo
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Marnie, This is kind of off this topic, but your scientific mind may be interested to know that I seem to have almost totally conquered my fibromyalgia, and can go, go, go all day long now despite the other effects of my Lyme, which are still present.
I have no excess lactic acid, muscle pain or spasm after exertion now, despite having increased my weight lifting program to six times as many reps as I used to do.
How did I do this? One teaspoon of creatine powder mixed into my morning whey protein, powdered greens and apple juice shake.
It only took 3 weeks to see dramatic results. My muscle wasting is almost gone too.
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Marnie- I don't know hardly anything about science but keep up the good work.
I think what you are saying is we are headed in the right direction.
You go girl...
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Marnie
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Sauna or other?
Other. Looking for 880nM wavelength. Luxsauna has not returned my email...I asked about my sauna. Using that specific wavelength?
Klutzo...happy to hear you are correcting the muscle wasting!!!
Headed in the right direction?
Yes! Far infrared therapy DOES make a difference.
Many gov. sponsored trials are underway using far infrared to cure MS, AIDS/HIV, AD, Parkinsons...the list goes on.
A lot of this stems from NASA research. When they tried to grow plants in zero gravity...it didn't work. They didn't grow. And the astronauts had problems healing (much slower)and working in zero gravity. Apparently far infrared speeds up growth (in plants) and significantly speeds up healing in humans.
Fascinating reading:
scroll down to Adverse effects of weightlessness :
Jackson State University 2007 Flow characteristics of water under the influence of Far Infra Red (FIR) and mechanical vibration in zero gravity and ground level gravity
The movement of fluid flow depends on velocity of the fluid mass, the temperature and the energy flux. Less energy is required to move fluid in zero g when compared to that occurring at 1 x g. Furthermore, when the energy required to move the fluid in zero g and 1 x g is the same, the fluid moves faster in zero g than in 1 x g.
***However, in hypo-gravity under in-vivo conditions blood flow is decreased.***
Considering that the density of water (1.00 g/cc) and blood (1.077 g/cc) are similar, the cause of difference in the flow characteristics at zero x g for the two fluids is not clear.
***A consequence of decreased blood flow at zero gravity is that physical activities are hindered.
Far infrared (FIR) is very helpful for blood circulation. FIR induces moderate hyperthermia (local temperature ~ 40 �C) and within physiological condition augments microvessel permeability.***
Muscle and bone mass loss is very prevalent in sustained space flight. Mechanical vibration is a possible solution to stimulate muscle and bone mass gain.
***Our hypothesis is that (i) FIR and /or (ii) mechanical vibration increases fluid flow in zero-gravity.***
We want to fill the knowledge gap between the increased flow of water at zero g and the decreased blood flow at zero g. We wish to characterize the energy flux, density, temperature and velocity of water fluid flow in a cylindrical vessel in the presence and absence of (i) FIR and/or (ii) mechanical vibration.
The data will be collected using probes and video camera. The same experiment will be performed on the ground, and the data will be compared, analyzed and published. K-12 grades activities will be formulated to explain the effect of FIR and mechanical vibration on flow characteristics to inspire them into the science and engineering fields."
"Lifesaving Light: Special lighting technology developed for plant growth experiments on space shuttle missions is now used to treat brain tumors in children.
Doctors at the Medical College of Wisconsin in Milwaukee use light-emitting diodes in a treatment called photodynamic therapy, a form of chemotherapy, to kill cancerous tumors."
As far as vibrations...whole body vibration apparently inactivates NFkB...a good thing.
"Dec 29, 2005 4:59 pm US/Central Vibration Therapy May Help Treat Osteoporosis (CBS) In Medicine Today: Vibration therapy."
And here:
PMID: 11096064
Some very brilliant people are finding safer ways to target diseases and to help us heal.
It is happening at the speed of light (and sound).
Sound can effect us profoundly?
"Google" these words and look for edu links:
Mozart dopamine
Isn't this stuff amazing?!
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northstar
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I found a "controversial" website, which had information on light therapy. The information seemed science based, so I put aside the original purpose of the website.
There are numerous citations and references to books, journals, etc. within the following webpage on LED, 880nm light.
Pulsed is better than continuous in healing. There are in depth explanations of mitochondrial and metabolic issues. Many terms I recognize from Marnie's postings.
Note: the QDI is Whelan's invention. His research is based on it. There are copycats on the market, but may not equal his machine.
A researcher named T. Karu is the source of much information. A google on this name will pull up tons of direct studies and information.
The controversial website with the light information is:
I think there is a difference though between using LED and FIR sauna, so I am trying to find out more info on it.
I am confused at the interchange of near infrared and far infrared, which I have seen both used in discussing 880nm
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northstar
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Here is another controversial website that provides overviews of LED therpies. The articles on this webpage provide names of researchers, and appear well referenced. It is the information and the references, not the website, that are of interest.
Infrared light therapy provides many of the health benefits of natural sunlight without any of the dangerous effects of solar radiation.
Infrared heat is not ultraviolet radiation. Infrared energy travels 2-3" deep into the body and increases blood circulation and nourishes damaged tissue.
The energy that we feel from the sun gets transported to the earth by means of electromagnetic radiation. These rays can be divided into several wavelengths.
Wavelengths are measured in nanometers (nm). A nanometer is one millionth part of a centimeter or about 0.000000394 inch.
Now, each wavelength transports a certain amount of energy. The higher the frequency of the wave, the shorter its wavelength and the more energy it can transport.
Higher frequency = shorter wavelength = more energy.
Only part of the sunrays make it al the way through to the earth. Part of it gets absorbed by our atmosphere.
The radiation that does reach the face of the earth is called global radiation.
It ranges from Ultraviolet light over visible light and then all the way over to infrared light (IR), which is used in infrared light therapy.
The global radiation is divided like so
* UVB from 295 to 315 nm 0.1% * UVA from 315 to 400 nm 4.9%
* Violet from 380 to 436 nm * Blue from 436 to 495 nm * Green from 495 to 566 nm * Yellow from 566 to 589 nm * Orange from 589 to 627 nm * Red from 627 to 780 nm totals at 39% visible light
* IR A from 760 to 1,400 nm 37 % * IR B from 1,400 to 3,000 nm 16 % * IR C from 3,000 to 10,000 nm 3%
We are particularly interested in the infrared rays (IR). As you can see, they are divided in three types :
* IR-A : short wave infrared * IR-B : medium wave infrared * IR-C : long wave infrared
The short wave infrared will heat up our body faster. But, they have a major drawback : they almost totally bypass the receptors in our body.
The consequence of this is that our central nerve system doesn't receive any "high temperature warning". Needless to say : this is bad.
At present, several discussions are going on between governments, NORM commissions and infrared sauna manufacturers.
Short wave infrared light therapy will probably only be possible under doctor's supervision soon. A lot of people don't like the ultra-rapid heating of short wave infrared.
That is why it is recommended to use long wave infrared in your sauna cabin. Of course, a combination of both is also possible.
You can place IR-C emitters at your backside and IR-A rays in the corners in the front, as they have to travel a longer distance to your body.
Every kind of heat that we can feel from a distance is transported by infrared rays. Whether it is the heat from a stove, a light bulb, or even the body heat from another human being.
Our bodies emit infrared radiation in a wavelength range from 300 to 5,000 nm and our hand palms emit radiation from 800 to 1,400 nm.
Infrared light therapy is very old. Healing by laying on of hands is practiced in China for 3,000 years and is based upon this emission of IR rays. Indian yogis mainly perform laying on of hands in cases of sore eyes.
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Marnie
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Pubmed has 992 citations if you search "phototherapy" and 72 if you search "far infrared"
For those who don't believe in the "power" of lightwaves...do we not use blue light to cure jaundiced newborns? (Insufficient enzyme in some newborns or completely missing in others..."Blue light signals life afflicted by rare illness")
Northstar...guess what I found...O3 absorbs the 880 wavelength!
HO-1 released...separating heme from oxygen.
O + O2 -> 03?
Something else interesting:
Somewhere I read the best location to aim the light is directly above the belly button (umbilicus). Think about what is nearby...vena cava.
But the venous system carries deoxygenated blood...so that is confusing.
Why is warming the blood so critical?:
"IN three cases of massive blood loss, patients received an average of 38 units of blood replacement, of which 12 units were fresh. All received fresh frozen plasma (FFP), but no platelet transfusions.
***The use of fresh warm blood, rather than banked blood, appears to have been of
crucial benefit to the patients in this small series.***"
Apparently lower heart temperatures = decrease in myocardial oxygen consumption.(Myocardial Protection - Google Books Result)
Northstar, did you catch my late post last night about the WFL?
Another HO-1 link...maybe.
Others...please note...far infrared does not travel thru bone.
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lymie_in_md
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I'm posting the following link because it discusses the foundation of photon work done by Fritz Popp. I found even more interesting is the need for intercellular communication in the onion experiment by Alexander Gurwitsch.
I find one underlying issue with science from the following quite from the first link above:
quote: It is a certain irony that Popp, after he had presented his ideas to leading cancer scientists in Germany, was first denied any research money, because he said he wanted to find light inside cells. For these people, this was a completely absurd idea! Only when he pledged to establish that there is no light in cells, did he receive some funding
Anyone find any irony in this, like no such thing as persitent lyme infection after a course of ABX.
Is there any documents about meridians?
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sixgoofykids
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The wavelength of the FIR sauna is different from the wavelength of the 880 nm. Here is a website that explains it well.
Because I lived in FL when my son was born, the doctor there had me put him in natural sunlight when he was jaundiced .... not in the middle of the day, but early in the morning and late in the afternoon with nothing on. It worked.
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