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ticked-offinNc
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I have noticed I have lost a lot of muscle,along with weight loss. I have been active,as I have family and farm to care for.

I try lifting weights, but it is hard, being so tired all the time.

Does anyone have suggestions to help build the muscle, or prevent further loss?

Thank you very much for your help and ideas!

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dg0207
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Try supplementing your diet with protein powder shakes - whey protein.

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James Marschner
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I take Testosterone enanthate injections.

Not only is it the best thing to prevent wasting...it obliges your body to make itself hungry! Otherwise the anabolic substance does nothing. Testosterone upregulates gene transcription which results in lower fat and higher muscle mass. In order to do this, the body must experience cravings for protein.

Truly, testosterone supplementation has done far more for my nausea/appetite suppression than MARIJUANA! I'd recommend both....but some of us are very limited resourcefully (Dr's suck.).

I am 6'1" tall and wasted down to 160 lbs (Soaking wet.). After taking tetstosterone injections, My weight skyrocketed to 200lbs in a matter of 2.5 months! Thats while herxing too!

Cant understand why Testosterone is so underused in medicine?

It also stimulates the immune system! Gives you energy to counter-act chronic fatigue too! Makes you feel happier (Increase libido etc..). Everything it's done for me has been a huge plus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some preventative medicine Dr's offer testosterone, and HgH injections for Lyme. Otherwise, you'll have to ask around. I get it from the black-market, just like my Valium.

One of the only things I get "legally" is my ABX and Marijuana. Funny I can get a license to smoke pot...but can't I can buy Valium and Vicodin, and Testosterone!? Or IV rocephin!!

Nice medical system we have. Steere et al really messed us up! Bad! Whose gonna bring them to justice?

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sixgoofykids
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I used whey protein shakes.

I lifted weights, too, but I seemed to need more. If you're keeping as busy as you always did, it seems like you shouldn't need more than you're doing to look as you always did (does that make sense). In other words, I think it's a deeper problem than lack of exercise.

Body builder use creatine along with whey to build muscles ... I learned that AFTER I was not having that problem anymore or I would have researched it more.

Be sure you're eating often enough, every couple hours have a snack. Be sure you're getting enough healthy fat.

The chronically ill have higher protein requirements than the average person .... this may have something to do with the wasting.

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My husband has Lyme induced dermatomyositis which causes muscle wasting/weakness. It is being treated with IVIG.
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I am dealing with this same issue. I have been taking a med to give me energy but in turn it supresses my appetite so I am NEVER hungry!! Top that with my GI upset from my abx and that pretty much explains how I lost over 25lbs since January. I am 5 foot 9 and weigh in at just under 120lbs. I do not feel I look under-weight, but I can really notice my bony prominances more and I know it is actually "under-weight" for my height.

I have just started trying to boost the protein, like mentioned above. I eat eggs for breakfast, protein shake for "lunch" and almonds and walnuts when I need a snack. I also started exercising to try to boost my metabolism to make me feel hungry and also stopped taking that med of course!! I am just worried my body is breaking down my muscle now and I will end up with ketoacidosis or something horrible like that!!

Good luck!!

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James Marschner
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Many people shy away from testosterone because of the steroid stigma.

I've also read new articles saying that testosterone is responsible for a stronger immune system women than men.

This means that your sister, or wife is generally in much better health than their male counterparts? I never noticed this?

Testosterone delays immunological aging (Immunosenescence.)though. When your 75, you could have the immunity of when you were 30?! That would definitely be a significant positive effect.

VS. The differences in immunity between men and women...negligible. Thats another example of "getting lost in the trees".

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Lymeorsomething
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Well, the thing is that normal T output, in some cases, can be recovered with the right lyme treatments. Lyme can affect the entire endocrine system just as it can affect any other bodily system...

T injections will suppress your own natural production of T even more. You don't want to do this ideally unless you have primary hypogonadism, in which case it wouldn't matter....

If you have low T because of a pituitary issue (maybe influenced by lyme toxins), HCG is the better alternative because it will stimulate your body's own production of T...

If you have lyme and low T, I think that it's better to give treatment a chance to reverse things before opting for the hormone replacement..

Some supps will help...L-carnitine and plenty of B vitamins...

Also check thyroid/adrenal status to ensure adequate levels...an imbalance here may put the brakes on T production...

I'm dealing with this now too. Fatigue is my worst symptom but I still lift weights twice a week...that's all you need...

A light routine concentrating on all major muscle groups is helpful initially...

(I know) it's tough to get motivated...just play some music and try short sessions...keeping the body in decent shape will help in the long run...

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lymeHerx001
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We tested my testosterone and it was in the normal rage. RIght in the middle I think.


He didnt then want to give me testosterone.

Should my LLMD have then?

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Lymeorsomething
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Yeah, mine is middle-range too but that can be an effect of lyme.

Like I said, you'll probably want to avoid testosterone replacement unless your lyme treatment fails restore a "normal" output. And normal can vary from person to person. Ideally, T should be in the upper half of the reference range not the lower...

If you do try T, it's a good idea to check your LH/FSH levels first. Low LH indicates a pituitary (secondary) cause of the diminished T and something like HCG may work better than straight T replacement, which will only suppress your naturally occurring levels more (unless other drugs are used in combination)....

Personally, I'm trying to be patient. Endocrine abnormalities should right themselves with proper antibiotic treatment providing no permanent damage is done. I don't know enough about the lyme toxin to understand how it causes these disruptions and what permanent damage it may cause...

If the pituitary gets beat up though, the T will start slacking off....

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