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Aken and Shaken
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Hello,
I am new here. I was wondering if anyone else was having bad herxes from Enula?

I started about 8 weeks ago. The first day, I got a migraine headache, so I went slow. 15 drops 2X a day. Slowly added a drop or two a day.
Finally got up to 25 to 27 drops.

The herx became so severe. I had bone pain in my entire body. Bones I didn't know I had. Little bones in my feet and my hand hurt terribly.

Bones all over my body hurt and muscles too. I became extremely weepy. The pain was intolerable.

I also felt feverish, but didn't have a clinical fever.

I got concerned that maybe I had been having a reaction to Levaquin, so I stopped that. I also dropped down on the Enula to 20 drops. 5 days later still having a herx, but not nearly as bad.

Finally had to drop back to 15 drops. No Levaquin still. I did notice though that about a half hour after Enula, I feel bone pain.

Do not think it was Levaquin.

I also feel like I have been poisoned and toxic.

Finally when I came out of my excrutiating pain, I noticed my back was not as stiff. My hearing was better. (Even little bones in my ears hurt)

Anyone else having this dramatic response to Enula?

I became so ill, that I really thought I needed to see neurologist or someone to see if I had invasive yeast. My blood pressure is usually low, but last time my doctor checked, it was lower than usual. 90/60

Thanks.

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sixgoofykids
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Welcome!

Wow, no I didn't have that kind of dramatic response to Enula but I had been on babs/Lyme treatment for a long time when I started it. I have had a dramatic response in that I've passed many large intestinal parasites from it!

If you felt better afterward, it sounds like a herx.

Does your doctor know you stopped Levaquin? I wouldn't stop or start meds without your doctor's knowledge. [Smile] Levaquin caused a heck of a herx for me for the first six weeks. Then I saw steady improvement from it. It's a great drug.

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I've had malarone and mepron. I have a mild form of Babesia. No sweats. Just occasionally.

I've never had a herx this dramatic. My doc knew I was backing down on meds. It has been a week off Levaquin.

I wanted to make sure I wasn't flossed from the Levaquin, but it seems the enula is what is giving me the most problems.

My doc says people are seeing some improvement from enula, but I think I am wondering why I am having such a dramatic response to it vs. other people?

I've been on Levaquin and Minocycline going on 3 months now. I think. I forget. It helped me feel better, no dramtic herxes, but then added Enula and kapow!

I forgot to add that I also get twitching from the enula. This stuff seems to penetrate the nervous system quickly for me.

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sixgoofykids
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Well, I'd say the Enula is reaching something, not necessarily babesia, that your other meds haven't reached.

I have been on various meds for 18 months and recently started Zith. Even though I was on Biaxin for 9 months and hadn't been having to bad of herxes lately, the Zith is really getting something new and causing a lot of pain.

My PA's response was to stick with it and to take a full dose. She said that if I took a lower dose that it encouraged the bacteria to become resistant.

So, I don't know if that applies to herbs, but in my opinion, if when you're off it you can see progress, hit it hard! [Smile]

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