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Ok, yesterday I posted about exercising, and today Im posting about crying spells.
Ever since I came down with lyme, Ive had bouts of crying spells. These are usually short little 2-5 minute bursts out of nowhere when I just need to cry. Nothing triggered, nothing going on, ...its as if my brain just simply flipped a switched, and bam, Im crying.
But sometimes like last night, the burst of tears turn into a long, sit down night of crying.
I realize that the brain and body is healing, and that crying is a form of expressing pain in the mind and body. (At least thats the way the therapist explained it when I saw one.)
Ive read in different lyme literature that being overly emotional, having crying spells, emotional roller coaster mood swings of rage, laughter, fear is a part of lyme, but it really taxes me physically and mentally when I swing with the wind.
My poor wife has witnessed it before and commented on how my eyes seem to change, and boom, I can turn.
Since Ive started this new LLMD routine of abx/med/supplements Ive now had these cry spells more often.
Does it mean that the abx are hitting that part of the brain?
Anyone else want to chime in on cry spells and/or wild mood swings?
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I've had this too. I notice for instance on a "bad" day that I can be reading a children's book to my kids and I will CRY because the baby duck can't find his mommy. Really, no reason at all.
I also wonder if it's a form of detox since tears do move chemicals right out of your head and lyme spirochetes have been found in tears (I think I read that somewhere).
Anyway, I try to not get too down about it and try to see it as healing. Maybe crying will reduce a herx if you cry out a bunch of toxins. I must say after 1 year or tx and the last 7 weeks of IV, I am crying MUCH MUCH less.
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quote:Originally posted by catskillmamala: I've had this too. I notice for instance on a "bad" day that I can be reading a children's book to my kids and I will CRY because the baby duck can't find his mommy. Really, no reason at all.
Now I have to disagree with that. I've cried over baby ducks who can't find their mommies for YEARS.
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Even now, I can't watch any horror films where its slasher death stuff. My mind just goes into a fear, shake-anxiety mode, and I want to cry.
For a while, even going to church was overly emotional and I would just weep after coming out of church.
Its as if all the emotions are intensified now.
But lately with the new abx Im taking, it doesnt take much...someone tailgating me, chatty people at work, or waiting in checkout at the store, and I can fly off the handle to rage or tears.
I have to think the lyme toxins are affecting the brain functions and the crying is a purge of emotions that have no where to go... Sooner or later, its like a cup filling up and its going to spill over, and then it resets itself.
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OMG - that's so me. I hate it. It makes me feel nuts. I cry all of the time and it comes from no where half the time. I don't know if my family knows what to do with me any more.
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I was a big cry baby, too but mostly when I was treating Bartonella.
Crying jags can often be related to Bartonella so PLEASE make sure you get tested for that coinfection, too.
It could be the Lyme but I wouldn't want anyone else to get the Bartonella diagnoses surprise like I did SIX years after rectifying my Lyme.
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I have been like that recently too. I have added zithromax and not even up to the full dose and crying. Trying to get my mind off of it and crying about that too.
Is this a bart or lyme thing?
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Im getting a full coinfections panel done through igenex, so Ill know in a few weeks if I have anything else on top of lyme. Given the symptoms, I think my LLMD thought I already had some, but didnt want to say anything for sure till the results came back.
For now I just keep on doing the protocol he prescribed and try to ride out the waves of emotions that seem to have surfaced since the start. Definetly the neuro lyme, brain stuff is my main problem.
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Wim.....If you are taking flagyl or tindamax it can at times cause these emotional reactions. From my own personal trials w/ these abx it made me an emtional fruitcake.
About a few days after the abx was stopped I was back to normal...ok,ok as normal as I was before I took the meds.
Good luck!
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Yes, this happened to me, too. Partly, due to very little sleep and a nervous system (CNS) that was enormously overwhelmed.
Deprive anyone of sleep for long enough and this will happen.
Also, the toxins from lyme and the treatment overload the CNS.
Fish oils, magnesium, etc. all very good to help, but this may take a while.
Also, it may sound strange, but try to use the crying to just grieve. When we find out about lyme we sort of hit the ground running, trying to learn enough and find doctors and pay for treatment that we forget the vast loss that has been covered up.
Let it out.
But also get good adrenal support. I think that made the biggest difference for me, now that I think about it. My adrenal system really needed help.
Think of little kids who cry when they are tired or overwhelmed - or if their nervous systems are not yet fully functioning.
It's very understandable, but I hope it lifts soon.
You might want to see Perlmutter's "The Better Brain Book" for support ideas and Singleton's new book, "The Lyme Disease Solution" where he discusses abx and supportive measures.
This will get better. Good luck.
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Ohhhh.... this happens BIG TIME for me after exactly 3 nights taking even a small dose of melatonin.
I have tried several times over the years to take melatonin and each time, the same thing. If you take melatonin, you might want to take half tonight and less tomorrow, etc. and see if that might be part of this.
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Babesia is said to cause something called "emotional lability," which I believe means your emotions are random and unpredictable.
You may want to get tested through Igenex if you haven't. And even if it came back negative, examine all your symptoms closely to try to figure out if treating it based on symptoms would be an option. Some babesia tests come back negative because they don't detect all the "strains" of it. I believe there is a Midwest strain Igenex does not detect.
It may also very well be Bartonella, but keep babesia in the back of your mind as well, if you haven't already considered it.
Of course, Lyme is another plausible explanation. I know that isn't much help! Sorry! Posts: 4590 | From Midwest | Registered: Jun 2008
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I've had brief episodes of this and found it quite bizarre. My LLMD says it is a symptom of Bart.
Don't worry though it will go away.
Take care Laura
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I experienced this when I started treating Bart. Then it got worse while treating Babs. Now I'm switching back to Bart tx, so will see how it goes.
I think it just goes with all the other stuff we experience, but it's no fun for sure.
As for the horror movies, and even some frightening adventure ones, I've had trouble with that, too.
I know when I was first crashing with Lyme I suffered from adrenal fatigue. It affects our fight or flight mechanism and once it gets turned on, it doesn't just turn off as for most people.
Now that my cortisol levels are a bit more in the normal range these symptoms have improved.
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I just wanted to let you all know - you're amazing!!!! My LLMD thinks I have bart (I haven't been tested yet) and is treating me with zithromax. Several of you said that these two would/could cause the crying jags.
This is why I come here. The information that you, as a group, are able to provide is wonderful.
I am sorry that you all have been through so much but please know, your willingness to help those of us who are new to this is greatly appreciated.
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