I am stubborn and refused it, trusted my old instincts again.
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Absolutely not. I have been against it from the very first.
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This vaccine never made sense to me. I think they should save vaccines for diseases which will kill you so fast the doctors don't have time to treat you.
To use it for a possible cancer years and years down the line never made sense. By the time these girls possibly develop cancer there might be some real good cures.
They also can't tell you how long the vaccine will be effective which means it will also be ineffective.
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I'm pretty sure this will be one of those drugs, etc that comes out and everyone thinks it's wonderful and jumps on the bandwagon, but then 5-10 years from now, no pediatricians will be recommending it.
And people will be like, "Remember that cervical cancer vaccine? What ever happened to that?"
But the truth is that it was never proven safe, nor proven effective, and when researchers and pediatricians realize it is neither, it will be yanked off the market, with no fanfare, as if it never happened.
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Hoosier... This IS about the cervical cancer vaccine. I don't have a daughter, but if I did she would never get this vaccine.
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I know it is.....I was just saying that I think it will be taken off the market, and then everyone is going to wonder where it went. I am against it myself.
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I absolutely refuse to get my 14 year old daughter vaccinated with this crap. At my daughters pediatricians office and my 90 year old moms doctor these brochures were every where. On TV and in every magazine that we women read there are ads for this vaccine. If you look into this, this vaccine was never properly tested, and pushed out before it was safely tested. A lot of girls since then have gotten really sick from this vaccine and I think one has died. It's all about big money and more money for the pharmaceutical companies. Do the math. it is a 3 dose vaccine times how many girls and if i am not mistaken about $60.00 per dose charged to insurance companies! Big big money at a cost. It will be one of those vaccines the FDA should not have apprpved so soon as it could cause complications in our precious daughters later on in life!
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My kids will have vacines only if I DIE!! THAN at least I do not know.
They asked me 3 times so far and she is 16.WELL they know me ..they better Do not ask anymore...as I do not care I just live the country that is it!!
NOBODY can force us "IN THE FREE COUNTRY " right!!
HOW stupid of me of letting them putting all these shots on my son.I saw the records and everytime he had HIGH FEVER !!!!Agreavated LYME!
NOw only over my body !OTERWISE it aint HAPPEN!
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Here is more evidence of how desperate the vaccine companies are to make money:
They now have an add campaign (I saw a full page ad in Us Weekly) targeted towards Moms with babies, whose babies are in the middle of getting their pertussis (whooping cough ) series of vaccines.
The add was basically saying you should get vaccinated so you don't give it to your baby, because before you baby gets his/her "last" in the series, you could give it to the baby if you have it. And also, everyone in the family should get it too.
It is of course recommended by these companies that adults keep up with their pertussis vaccine every 11 years or so.......
But now they are using the "fear factor": if you have a newborn, they could get it from you in that window of time while their vaccines aren't effective yet! Gasp! Fear!
I understand: it is scary to think you could give it to your baby. But I sort of saw right through this ad as a cheesy ploy to use an innocent child's life (a baby who is already him/herself being vaccinated) to create a fear in parents that will motivate them to buy this product.
Maybe this is all well and good and legit. It is good to save baby's lives.....so it's like I'm on the fence about how I feel about it. BUT, i just DESPISE the advertising. It's like, don't think, don't read, just do it now before your child has all her shots and we have no reason to scare you anymore!!!!
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Oh, and another gripe I have about the advertising......
I feel like the cervical cancer vaccine commercials are VERY misleading..... it shows different girls with their mothers in their homes, and the girl or mom will say, "ONE LESS."
That really bothers me, because the vaccine may not work for everyone who gets it. Yet, it shows a girl who got the vaccine, confidently saying, "One less." with her mom standing there.
If it was a classroom full of girls, and some of them stood up and said, "One Less," by some stayed sitting, it would be more accurate to me. Then it wouldn't be borderline false advertising.
Anyone watching the current commercial will be inspired because the commercial implied their daughter will be "one less" just because she was vaccinated. That is what was implied. That is NOT the case, however.
It is so unscientific. What about, "I could be one less." That at least would make sense.
This is a broader issue, but I would love it if pharmaceutical companies weren't allowed to advertise on TV. It's not like people can go buy the drug (for vaccines, yes, but for other things like birth control, etc, no). They should let their research speak for itself to the medical professionals who dispense them. Then the doctor should be able to advise you if you need it or not, and give you an objective opinion (yes, it wouldn't really be that objective, but at least it wouldn't be influenced by a girl running down the street in trendy clothes with balloons all around her....if you've seen Yaz commercials you know what I mean). Advertising is sooooo shady anyways. It doesn't help people make good desicions. That's what the drug manufacturer's count on.
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Have any of seen the documentary film "Vaccine Nation"?
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duh ME, Hoosier! I was reading too quickly!!
Have you seen the ad for Pampers? Every time Pampers are purchased, you are contributing for "life saving vaccines" to be used for children in other countries.
Not so sure that is a GOOD thing!
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Also, for those of you who don't know, I had an adverse reaction to a DPT vaccine a year and a half ago, which caused me to become severely ill, and I haven't really been the same since then. (I had been doing comparably better at this point) That is one reason I am against "forced vaccination."
I just want to put it out there that those of you who have Lyme and/or coinfections should consider my experience when deciding about any vaccinations for yourself or your children, especially the DPT vaccine. I believe it was either the diptheria or pertussis element of this shot that can often throw people's systems for a loop. It certainly did for me!
I just think people affected by Lyme should exercise logic and caution when dealing with these vaccines.
Lymetoo--- Yes, I saw that commercial. After my husband saw what my last vaccine did to me, he saw the commercial and even he was like, "oh man.....yeesh." I can understand how SOME vaccines are okay for SOME individuals, but they are certainly not what we make them out to be. America is definitely over-vaccinated.
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Well, like a dipstick, I jumped on that bandwagon and had my 19 year old take the vaccines. I SHOULD KNOW BETTER. She did fine but I'm sorry I did it.
I think she would have done it on her own as all her friends did it but I'm sorry I encouraged her and I think I could have talked her out of it.
When I heard "cancer" mom instincts kicked in. I've heard that dr's arent even recommending this for their own kids.
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Dear Friends,
Some girls have actually DIED SUDDENLY from this vaccine!! Also, many paralized, collapsed, suddenly regressing. Don't have the link, but you can look up the article at the websites below:
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The thing that steams me up the most about this is that (if I am not mistaken) it is REQUIRED in certain parts of the country! Maybe you could get an "excuse", but still, it prevents people from making their own decisions.
It just seems so wrong to make it required to inject yourself with a drug that was just put on the market! It's one thing to choose it for yourself, we all should make educated decisions, but I hate that they force it on people!
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There was a very heated discussion years back about this on LymeNet....the thought was that girls who were exposed to the virus more (connect the dots here) were more at risk.
Others disagreed with that notion and said any girl could catch it....
I would not allow my daughter to be vaccinated with that stuff, mumps, measles, sure, not something unproven.
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I can understand how SOME vaccines are okay for SOME individuals, but they are certainly not what we make them out to be. America is definitely over-vaccinated.
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