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started on 4 heaping teaspoons per day. have been doing that for 2 weeks. I'm improving. May ramp up starting monday, depending on how I'm feeling. I am seeing results.
quote:Originally posted by Clint31: started on 4 heaping teaspoons per day.
OK... so just HOW do you HEAP a liquid such as that!?
I have Sovereign Silver.
what do you mean heap? I was advised to start out with 4 teaspoons a day of it. I pour it into a tablespoon but don't fill it up all the way. So its between a tablespoon and a teaspoon. I do this 4 times a day on empty stomach.
I was so sick in june, july that I thought I was dying, even after I was told it was lyme disease.
I had so many problems. So dizzy I could not walk at my job. My heart was skipping beats. My foot cramped up badly. My muscles ached. My head hurt everywhere. I had sleep apnea where I would wake myself up within 5 seconds of going to sleep because I would stop breathing.
Well today for instance, I don't even feel like I have lyme disease. Granted this is one of my best days I've had since diagnosis or in the year 2008 for that matter, but I feel almost perfect.
As far as a herx, there is some pain in my left arm and wrist, as well as left calf and ankle.... Thats where the lyme was residing when I was really sick, and where the pain throbbed. Now its almost gone but when I herx it hurts there. I do wake up most morning with a killer headache like a hangover, and sometimes this will occur at night.
The silver has made my morning chills go away. My anxiety is almost gone. The heart symptoms gone. When i get proper rest, or even today on lesser rest, I feel somewhhat normal although Im sure I'm not 100%.
This is on 2 weeks of silver. after about 6 weeks of Doxy and 3 weeks of zithro.
When I herx from silver it will feel like the flu and extreme fatigue. I think this happened the last few days.
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Is there mercury in mesosilver? I thought someone mentioned that. Does anyone know?
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I take 2-4 tsps of Mesosilver once every 4 days and eventually will be taking daily.
I had to back off a few days because I herxed which was SHOCKING because I was declared in remission.
The silver particles reach deeper than abx and my LLMD said that it's probably hitting something we didn't know about OR getting deeper.
It also supposedly bust cysts open and I've had limited cyst busting treatment so that could be the cause of my herxes, too.
No mercury but I cannot explain why because I don't have that biological brain. Maybe Metallic Blue or ScottF can swoop in and save me here!
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CherlySue:
DCH found this on the Mesosilver website:
dch
oh I just found this on their site after I emailed them...
"Can MesoSilver and MesoGold be taken along with prescription drugs?
Yes. MesoSilver and MesoGold do not interfere with or interact with medications. Both gold and silver are noble metals, which means they do not readily combine with other substances to form compounds, so they do not interact with medications, herbs, or other supplements."
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So clarissa, correct me if I'm wrong here... but according to a qualified LLMD; Mesosilver by itself if used long enough should be enough to hit lyme as well as co-infections and bring a person back to health over the course of time correct?
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One of the LLMDs I work with and I are both taking ACS200 - www.resultsrna.com You can't just purchase it, as they only sell to physicians. However, I'm to understand that it is more "advanced" and safer than most other brands. Mesosilver is a good alternative.
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You won't like my answer because it's not black or white, it's gray.
I don't think MY LLMD would make that claim but I don't think he would say it was "impossible".
His protocol is to hit the bugs hard with abx and then, after a period of time, based on the clearing of your symptoms and muscle testing (please search for that topic), he decides if you're ready to come off of abx and onto silver or herbs.
Now, I've had Lyme and Co my WHOLE life so my case cannot be compared to yours AT ALL.
However, I think I can fairly say that MOST LLMD's would treat with abx FIRST for a good amount of time and then do maintenance and more killing with herbs/and or silver.
I think my LLMD is one of the few who recommends silver.
Others can chime in but I don't know of many LLMD's who use it anymore.
So there's my wishy-washy yet honest and I believe, accurate, answer.
Please post that question if you want more of a wide-ranged answer!
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Here are my thoughts about silver v abx.
I never suffer a herx on abx. Don't know why, but I don't. However, I do suffer herx on silver. So which is working better?
After 7 mths of abx, I still tested positive for Babs, Mycoplasmas, CPN.
Dr gave me 4 weekly IVs of MTE 9 which is herbal for Babs. (not silver) My next bloodtest, the Babs was negative. A second bloodtest the Babs was back but barely. I don't have any babs symptoms and did not herx during treatment. In fact, felt really good.
I would like to do more MTE9 but right now she is off into another direction.
I started silver on my own. There is a tx for malaria that Nature's Sunshine has with their silver product called Silver Shield. You take a 4 oz bottle daily for 3 days then a 4th bottle is taken over the period of one week. That is supposed to kill malaria.
The herbalist and I figured it might work for babesia, but I was saavy enough about my body to know better than to drink 4 oz a day. We muscle tested that 1 oz daily would be the right dose.
It flared up my joints badly. I kept cutting back until I found 1 tsp every 3rd day would not cause a herx.
I never told my doctor but last week she started me on Argentyn 23 which is silver. 10 drops daily and build up to 3 droppers full daily.
10 drops daily was too much. I am currently trying 5 drops daily but my left wrist is so inflammed, I can't use the hand and I am left-handed.
If pain and inflammation equals killing bugs and all research and LLMD says it does, then the silver is far more effective than the abx.
If I can stick this out, it will be interesting to see my future bloodwork.
I go in for a tonsilectomy tomorrow morning, so I have not been able to take even so much as an aspirin for a week now. What a time to flare up my wrist.
Dr wants me on the silver while recovering from the surgery to kill the bacteria that she believes will be released.
All I can say is bring on the pain meds the ENT dr is going to give me.
I have gotten used to no pain and the silver has brought it back.
My opinion is either the silver is stronger or it is killing something the abx did not. Yeast? Cysts?
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Hiker, how much did you pay? There are ways to get a lot of supplements that are only supposed to be distributed through physicians, but you'll typically pay a ton for them.
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I was so sick in june, july that I thought I was dying, even after I was told it was lyme disease.
I had so many problems. So dizzy I could not walk at my job. My heart was skipping beats. My foot cramped up badly. My muscles ached. My head hurt everywhere. I had sleep apnea where I would wake myself up within 5 seconds of going to sleep because I would stop breathing.
Well today for instance, I don't even feel like I have lyme disease. Granted this is one of my best days I've had since diagnosis or in the year 2008 for that matter, but I feel almost perfect.
As far as a herx, there is some pain in my left arm and wrist, as well as left calf and ankle.... Thats where the lyme was residing when I was really sick, and where the pain throbbed. Now its almost gone but when I herx it hurts there. I do wake up most morning with a killer headache like a hangover, and sometimes this will occur at night.
The silver has made my morning chills go away. My anxiety is almost gone. The heart symptoms gone. When i get proper rest, or even today on lesser rest, I feel somewhhat normal although Im sure I'm not 100%.
This is on 2 weeks of silver. after about 6 weeks of Doxy and 3 weeks of zithro.
When I herx from silver it will feel like the flu and extreme fatigue. I think this happened the last few days.
Clint, thanks for details re your experience with mesosilver and I hope things continue to improve for you. It sounds like you have been thru hell. Any chance babs and bart are in the mix?
I am now on day 4 of mesosilver at 1 heaping teaspoon 2X. On day 3 a significant elevation of symptoms was observed that may reflect herxing:
fatigue, bone and muscle pain, strong abdominal pain, pressure in the head, tingling over the face, zapping sensations over the legs, anxiety, a frontal headache and breakout of a small rash.
Although nothing brutal, I will slowly ramp things up to see if any fireworks result(i.e. a herx from hell).
For herxing a variety of agents are used: Burbur,Sarsaparilla, Zhang AI #3, Chlorella, Activated charcoal in capsules,and Lemon juice with olive oil.
Will post further on this thread if significant improvements result from the mesosilver.
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