Lymeorsomething
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So I recently got this result back from Igenex. My lyme WB is still IGM positive. All co's were neg except for this finding: IGG Babesia 1:40.
Accompanying info. says it may indicate possible infection. I've had a hard time getting well so I've suspected possible co's...plus my iron (ferritin) has been on the low side.
Question:
Has anyone had similar IGG titers with a later confirmed case of babs?
Thanks.
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METALLlC BLUE
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You have Babesia.
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I have been on Mepron/zith since May. My results say:
Babesia microti IgG/IgM by ELISA 7/15/2008
IgG Neg(Index=0.09) IgM Pos(Index=1.74)
Range: Neg < 0.9 Equiv: 0.9 Pos > 1.10
Does anyone know what this means? Does this mean old infection since IgG is negative?
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Lymeorsomething
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no igm is usually a current infection...yours may have been an acute infection...
I was just wondering what the probabilities are for having an active babs infection with an IGG titer of 1:40...i have some of the symptoms...
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Aside from low iron, do you have any of the other symptoms - chills or sweats, air hunger and really bad fatigue?
I think babs is like lyme in that a clinical diagnosis is needed.
Does your doc want to treat you?
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Lymeorsomething
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fatigue has been incredible and lyme has been tough to budge....ferritin also has been trending low...no fevers that i'm aware of but get some air hunger when i'm in bed. platelets have been normal but somewhat low too....
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All my blood work has so far been ok. Not even low on iron. Kind of weird when I sometimes feel like I am dying.
But I am not unhappy good labs of course. And I feel somewhat better since May with the Mepron/Zithromax but can't tell you I feel great or even good yet.
When I started getting treated, I got new pains though (came and went) which makes me think I do have babs. Air hunger cleared but fatigue no.
I am pretty sure I still need treatment. I am going to a new doc next week. I hope he knows what to do with me.
I don't know what to tell you right now. If you start treatment and don't need it - it is expensive and of course not the right thing to do.
On the other hand if you do have it - you may start feeling much better with treatment.
I will ask my new doc about the IgG and IgM next week. I will post after the 3rd.
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I'd treat and see if anything happens.
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My serology was exactly the same as yours and the the FISH test was positive. So more than likely if someone looked for it in your blood well enough they'd probably find it.
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Lymeorsomething
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thanx pryorka...i thought the FISH test came with the panel but i didnt see it in my results...i'll have to recheck...
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after azithromycin and malarone i had 1/40 igg babesia in december, with worse health in overgrowth of borrelia and bartonella, in july i had negat igg babesia but the same symptoms; i only have the reference of a study with babesia microti that oversee igm because some false positive or long duration of titles, and count positive only with igg>1/40; test don't tell nothing, a expert doctor must manage it, greetings
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Rianna
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I did have a negative babesia and then got very clinical signs of Babesia and retested with an IGG Babesia 1:40.
Im presently treating Lyme and Bart and my babesia symptoms have gone wild, but my LLMD said I need to treat bart before babs and then go get the babesia
Its HORRID - I get severe air hunger and fatigue, the classic petecia all over my body and a cycling 2 week depression (again aparantly so classic of Babs)
I am so much better than I was as I was bed bound for ages but knowing I have Lyme. Bart & Babs is a hard one to swallow and sometimes wonder how I am ever going to get over all of this, especially when you treat on co-infection the other goes wild!!!!!
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Rianna,
Interesting that your doctor thinks you have to treat Bart before Babs. My doctor also thinks things must be treated in a certain order.
I never hear anyone speak of it here at lymenet and wonder if failing to follow the "order" could be cause for some's treatment failure?
In my case, I have babs and heavy metal toxicity among other things. My first doctor was focused on detox. I was so toxic, chelation was out of the question. For one year he worked at detoxing me more slowly with IVs of glutathione, chlorella, garlic, vit c, etc.
After one year, I was better but still not where he would have liked. Still, he was out of things to do, so we began the chelation just to see how I would tolerate it.
Horrible! 2 sessions and the cartilage in my left wrist was toast. The wrist itself was so inflammed it was agonizing.
Began working with my new doctor who is a rheumatologist and an ILADS LLMD. She is the one who speaks of dealing with the issues in order. She found the babesia and said "parasites have to go first, then metals".
That was one year ago. It is all still a work in progress, but I lead a normal life. Even the bum wrist has mostly recovered.
The first doctor did very well by me but he had reached his limit. He was not LLMD but very knowledgeable about healing the body.
The second doctor said the first doctor was doing the right stuff, just in the wrong order.
Oh well, just glad to hear someone else's doctor speak of doing things in order.
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Lymeorsomething
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Rianna- thanx for the info. My LLMD wanted me to take the mepron with doxy which I thought was an odd pair... Babs would make sense given my level of fatigue and lower ferritin levels. Does babs affect platelets at all?
Luvs- what lab did you use for metal testing?
Thanks guys...
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