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My Doctor is all about natural remedies for pain and its just not helping me. I take ultram all day pretty much and it doesnt does the pain. He told me to switch my diet... which i am still unsure of what to eat. And to go to an acupunturist. Well before i was taking lortab and it helped with my pain but this doctor wont do that. Do I need to go to a pain specialist?
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Keebler
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I think you will be amazed as how much a gluten-free diet can help to alleviate some of the pain.
A pain specialist may be able to help with some biofeedback techniques and drugs, but until the infection and endocrine system around that are treated the pain, sadly, is part of that. Still, there are many things that can help.
Addressing cytokines is important and that's addressed in the Singleton book I referenced in another current thread of yours.
[edited to add: he also discusses many options for pain relief, including Rx]
I find that all the pain meds did not touch the pain or made me so dizzy and tired or ate a hole through my stomach. I also have a liver that does not filter out very well a certain class of drugs and most pain drugs are in that class.
What I've learned from acupuncturists (L.Ac.) and naturopathic doctors (N.D.s) is that when the liver is overtaxed, pain is one result.
Unfortunately, lyme is very toxic and, therefore, hard on the liver to filter out. Most meds are metabolized in our liver and some are very hard on the liver. Liver support, such as milk thistle is good - but it can't go with some meds, so check with your doctor.
If you find a L.Ac. or N.D., try to get the referral from your LLMD so that you have one who is very LL. Many L.Ac's and ND's are not familiar with lyme and therefore treatment is often not as effective as from those who are.
For me, B-12 and B-6 with magnesium (in high dose - to bowel tolerance) and fish oil are tremendous helpers.
Ask your doctor if it's okay to take magnesium with bart. I have read that if it's with B-6 it is okay, but ask your doctor about magnesium supplements and also about epson salt baths.
also of great help is MASSAGE - and acupuncture. Both help the liver and the nervous system (but, again, be sure the L.Ac knows about lyme - treatments are often shortened so as not to overwhelm the adrenals).
An herb, corydalis, is in one sleep supplement suggested by some LLMDs. You can find it at www.hepapro.com/list/Herbsom.htm - "HerbSom"
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Keebler
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Oh . . . in addition to massage, cranial-sacral therapy has been very helpful for neck and spine pain.
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While rather complex, you might enjoy glancing over this article before you see a L.Ac. - it gives a good background from the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) approach:
Simple Traditional Formulas for Pain
ITM's article on simple traditional formulas for pain. Treatment of pain is a primary function of all medical systems. Throughout history, analgesic ...
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I'm sorry to hear you are in so much pain. Check out No/OHNO vitamin/nutrition regiment to interrupt the "pain cascade" established bgy your body defense.
I will send you my LLMD's portions to take daily if you PM me.
Meanwhile, I think Advil once in a while and maybe a vicodin for extreme pain is okay if taken under a doctor's care - just to get you through these painful times.
I hope you are going to feel better soon. Peedie
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Hi Katie,
Skip this guy for your pain treatment. He doesn't understand your depth of pain.
Find a pain specialist that will work with you and will keep working with you to find a good treatment plan for you.
You may have to go through a few before you find a keeper.
I doubt your doctor has seen the 2005 NIH study by Columbia University that compared the pain of Lyme disease to the pain experienced by patients after surgery?
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Katie, I go to a pain specialist. This was after my doctor explained that chronic pain can become an illness of it's own, and can be harmful to the body.
Also, I wasn't getting good, deep sleep because of pain. If we don't sleep, we don't get well. In the month that I have had pain free nights, I have made huge improvements, and am feeling pretty well.
If I could forget the piles of supplements and meds I take from early am to late pm, I would feel like a well person. I'm well aware that if it was all taken from me, I'd be bed bound very soon.
My acupuncturist, at the last appt. told me she's dead set against the pain meds I take, but feels that I should continue so my body can see what it's like to be pain free--sort of learn how to feel pain free.
I wish I didn't have to take them, but now I'm glad to be doing so well, and feel I'll be backing off them soon, since I'm making such good progress in all areas.
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