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I gotta get through 3 1/2 more hours of work then I can be rewarded by going home and chilling. I have really intense air hunger today, Its really bad. Bad as I've had yet. And I've had it often. No matter what I do I can't shake it today. I've tried everything. Water, deep breathing.... feels like I'm going to drop dead at any minute. Took 2 sick days this week so I can't just peace out and go home.
I just need someone to talk me through it and tell me I'm really not going to die....right here at work. I can get through it.... I think.
sixgoofykids
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Clint, you will be fine. I've had that many many times.
Try focusing on breathing OUT, then holding your breath OUT. This allows the CO2 to build up a little more. You are hyperventilating, and this is the equivalent of breathing into a paper bag (which helps, BTW).
It is classic babesia. It's a full moon right now and parasites are more active. My air hunger has been horrible yesterday and today as well.
Hang in there. You're not dying from this.
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Wow, do you think the full moon really activates the bugs more? That is very interesting.
Also interesting, I had my best night last night I've had in weeks. Very chill night, did not feel too bad at all. I'm trying your breath out trick now.
groovy2
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Hi Clint -
Try breathing in cold air from you Freezer -
Its Really helped my son with Croup - but am not sure about helping babs- but its worth a try --Jay-
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TerryK
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Copying a previous post of mine about how I got relief from air hunger:
Air hunger for me is related to babs AND acetylcholine. I only know this because I use muscle testing and found that things that increase my acetylcholine help a great deal to alleviate the air hunger.
Later, I read the article at the link below that explains that the borrelia toxins affect acetylcholine.
I'm cutting and pasting just a fraction of the article:
http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm Dietary Supplements in Lyme Disease One of the known actions of the Lyme spirochete toxin is to diminish the release and availability of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, a simple organic compound (see above for chemical structure).
This substance is biosynthesized by the body as required in nerve activation and transmission.
Supplementation by the precursors of acetylcholine synthesis would be of value to Lyme patients since they have a deficiency of this substance. (See Listing 1.)
Listing 1: Dietary Supplements Increasing Acetylcholine Synthesis Improving Neurologic Function
If the inhibition of acetylcholine release were total, Lyme patients and those suffering from food poisoning would not be able to move; they would be completely paralyzed.
Since the blockage is only partial, any increase in the amount of available neurotransmitter would benefit anyone experiencing neurotransmitter blockage. For this reason, dietary supplements increasing the amount of available acetylcholine have been shown to benefit Lyme patients.
I'm not sure why it causes air hunger but there is some info related to anxiety and air hunger symptoms that show a relationship to acetylcholine. I think acetylcholine does control breathing to some degree.
I have no idea if increasing acetylcholine will help you and it's hard to say if you have babs or not but many lyme patients do even with negative tests.
Terry I'm not a doctor
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One last note on this, a person on this list had some lecithin and they used it and got relief of air hunger. If you want to try something, get choline or lecithin. It may give you relief quickly.
No guarantee but the people that I know who have tried it have had the same result as I have so it's worth a try.
Terry
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CONCLUSIONS: Repeated Waon therapy improved right ventricular positive dP/dt, PH during exercise, exercise tolerance and the QOL in patients with severe COPD. PMID: 18522783 J Cardiol. 2008 Apr;51(2):106-13.
The above is a far infrared dry sauna. COPD is chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Looks like far infrared dry saunas help.
The "why":
"Flagellin from Gram-Negative Bacteria is a Potent Mediator of Acute Pulmonary Inflammation in Sepsis."
A "natural approach":
"Antispasmodic and *bronchodilator activities* of St John's wort are putatively mediated through dual inhibition of calcium influx and phosphodiesterase." Fundam Clin Pharmacol. 2005 Dec;19(6):695-705.
This is not an "instant" cure as it apparently takes awhile for SJW to build up. It does have "H16" in its chemical formula...
hypericin, C30H16O8
This is interesting:
Effect of a Probiotics Supplementation on Respiratory Infections and Immune and Hormonal Parameters during Intense Military Training Military Medicine, Sep 2007
Hormones
The result showed a significant greater
increase in mean DHEAS plasma concentrations in the probiotics group
"The purpose of the present study was to investigate the effect of probiotics intake on RTI, mucosal and cellular immune parameters, and hormonal parameters in subjects submitted to a multistressor environment such as the commando training.
The results did not show any difference between the two groups on incidence of RTI, although several elements suggest that
probiotics might lessen the negative impact of the multistressor environment on host defense."
Albuterol sulfate (inhalers) is given as an Rx to treat asthma.
"The diminished levels of serum DHEAS in the subjects with asthma can be corrected by the administration of an adrenergic stimulant, albuteral.
(Albuterol SULFATE)
The mode of action for albuteral is substantially similar to the mode of action for other adrenergic stimulants.
Therefore, researchers have concluded that the decrease in DHEA, DHEAS and estrogens results from diminished adrenergic responsiveness which occurs in AdBCs (Adrenergically blockaded conditions).
When using the "inhalers" ongoing ->
Background: Inhaled corticosteroids (ICs) are considered first-line therapy for persistent asthma.
Conclusions: Most children develop biochemical evidence of adrenal suppression after treatment with medium to high doses of ICs. The presence of low DHEA-S levels can be used as a screening test to identify the child who needs more formal testing of the HPA axis.
Cortisol and DHEAS are supposed to be in balance.
Infections, Gene-types, and other every-day stress can throw off the hormonal balances.
Can you get a recommendation to see an endrocrinologist to determine your hormone levels...adrenal (DHEAS:cortisol ratio), thyroid, pituitary, etc.?
Rebalancing those may help...a lot.
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