mojo
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I've searched the MMS threads but I haven't seen anything about MMS in an IV. I've recently heard that if Oral is unsuccessful that there is an IV version of this treatment.
Questions:
1. Have you tried MMS and did what were your results?
2. Did you do oral or IV?
3. Have you heard of the IV version and do you know where I can get more information or patient feedback on it?
Thanks!
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I injected 4 times now MMS in a vein in my arm. No problems...but I did only 1 drop...then 4 drops that time I missed the vein and burnt a muscle...but it appears to be healing fine. Then I did 3 drops 2 times and finally learned how to verify a vein by pulling back and watchin for the nice blood flow.
I have a scope and did check...it appears that mms directly into the veins has somewhat of a de-hypercogulation effect to it compared to orally.
My tests with a scope so far MMS and laricidin was the best combo so far. The next best combo I found very close to the MMS combo effectivness (next to ZERO invaders found) is AMP and GENT. (ampicclin and gentimicin injections every 6 hours...gent only 1 time per day for safety..and using gent only 5 days on, 5 days off for further safety.
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I see the book part 2 on that site is a older version.
I have the same book, and mine includes a 20Ml PUSH method of injecting it directly into a vein via a shot.
He said to use 6 to 18 drops (1 drop if your just starting out as in oral form) in 20 Ml of a normal sterile dextrose containing solution. Then to inject into a vein in your arm rapidly...about 20 seconds...taking too long will burn the vein. He says to have a nurse or doctor onsite to do this.
I did it myself and missed the vein and hurt my muscle, but it appears to be healing okay.
Just make sure you know what your doing before you do anything. A bubble in a vein will stop your lung and shut down your heart. I think I heard that a tiny bubble wont do anything, but if you get a sizeable one in a shot...you die.
So I never use the whole shot...I find if there is a bubble there...as long as i watch it and stop before the end of the solution in the needle...the bubble...if any was there...would stay inside the syeringe.
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Injecting MMS sounds like a really bad idea to me. I know we are all seeking health but this sounds really dangerous and not sterile. Please dont do it.
Melissa
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mojo
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James and Merry: Thanks for the input.
James - you are the first I've heard that has done the injections so I really appreciate your feedback. Do you know if folks are actively doing the shots or IV's? My sister seems to think perhaps they are doing it out of the country as we are having trouble finding any feedback on the internet or the Lyme sites.
Merry: Hey there - how are you? Don't worry - I'd never inject myself unless I had the proper training! I'm actually researching this for someone else.
Anyone else???
Thanks so much
mojo (aka twinofdar)
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hey Mojo!
I am ok and hanging in there! Thanks for asking!
I hope you dont think I am being negative. I just dont want you or anyone else to get hurt ir sick.
best of luck to you! Melissa
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Wow James...brave soul, it's a shame we have to experiment like this. I'm currently taking 5 drops a day orally. 6 gets me a little too sick.
If someone wants a more direct path you can give irrigation a try. Make sure it's activated with citric acid (or similar) before doing this. I found 2 drop held in my sinuses for about 30 seconds will deliver allot of MMS. Much more than oral use. I dilute with about 1/2 cup of saline water and have had no discomfort.
I'm also taking by mouth and nasal spray ASAP silver mixed with Silver wings MSP. I'm noticing my thrush and strep (biofilm)problems continue to disappear...fingers crossed.
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mojo
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Thanks, Brent. It sounds like folks are being very creative with how to use MMS.
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I can't believe what I'm reading.
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MMS does NOT and should not be activated for IV or IV shot use. And if you miss the vein...be ready for massive burning..but you dont die.
The blood itself activates the MMS, its not the same route as oral.
Lymetoo, your freaking out over nothing...did you know that the saline solution we use for IM or IV often contains nothing but 0.9 percent sodium choride? Do you know what un-activated MMS contains? 28 percent sodium choride. Merrygirl...your thinking something could live (pathogen) in sodium chorlide...hahaha, It speaks volumes of your knowledge. This site is a joke...its nothing but attack after attack for outside the box notions. Jim Humble is right...I have a scope...I did live blood microscopy on this...did you mery? did you lymetoo? or are you just shooting off your mouth?
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The reason I am exploring these out of the treatments is two fold...one...no one I know has actually done live blood microscopy on a hourly or daily basis here.
I Have, So frankly I know more then you do.
The reason I am putting it that way is for a reason...no one seems to get it.
And If you dont like it leave...or get me kicked out...but if you dont check your blood...your shooting at a dart board that has no targets.
I have had lyme for 32 yrs...bart for likely now 25yrs..looks like carrions disease, and babs for at least 6.
I checked my blood...I cannot kill these pathogens on conventional medicine.
So, I am out side the box for a reason...I have no other choice but suffer to the end.
You do what you want...and I'll do what I want...and if you'll listen...I'll post my findings..if you dont want to hear me...fine...tell the moderator to kick me out.
I have nothing to loose. If your doing live blood microscopy and have findings...then post them...if you dont shut up.
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I posted about ambein for example...and someone posts like 5 studies of ambein side effects....geez...I am sure I could uncover millions of studies on ABX that had side effects.
I am sorry but this is a joke...
This is it...either get off my case...or I am not bothering with posting my live blood microscopy findings.
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James people are just concerned about the safety.
I actually have a lot of experience reagrding sterile procedures and aseptic technique.
do you know what aseptic technique is?
Is mms sterile? I doubt it..
Are you using a new syringe and needle each time?
James when was the last time you had blood work?
This was not an attack on you or anyone. Just worried about people getting sick or dying.
Melissa
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Asking if MMS is sterile is like asking if rubbing alcohol is sterile. It is a disinfectant, therefore sterile.
Be careful James. I hope it works well for you. I am glad you have some measure of how well your treatments are working.
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Mr clean floor cleaner is a disinfectant and I would bet is not sterile.
All it takes is one slip up to contaminate something that is sterile.
quote: It is a disinfectant
So shooting up a disinfectant sounds reasonable to you???
It doesnt to me. What is next, bleach, Mr. clean, Lysol?
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quote:Merrygirl...your thinking something could live (pathogen) in sodium chorlide...hahaha, It speaks volumes of your knowledge
Bacterial contamination of multiple-dose saline bottles and medication vials in a veterinary teaching hospital was evaluated. Bacterial contamination of multiple-dose saline bottles and medication vials in a veterinary teaching hospital was evaluated. Bacterial contamination was identified in 16/88 (18%) containers with no difference in contamination between the large animal clinic, small animal clinic, and ruminant ambulatory clinic.
Contamination of multiple-dose containers containing substances for injection was common, and potential pathogens were present in many situations.
While the clinical significance is not resolved at this point, infection control practices should address this potential source of nosocomial infection. While the clinical significance is not resolved at this point, infection control practices should address this potential source of nosocomial infection. --------- So YES pathogens can live in Sodium chloride
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