treepatrol
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Friday I guy was in our office at the reception area he said after I found a deer tick crawling up his jacket he sez thats the 15th one I found on me today. Time line Friday17th oct 08. Saturday 18th I get up at home and go take a shower I find this humungus red mark under my right arm on my chest oh no I think tick bite so I pull the center out and it looks more like a spider bite I see nothing no tick but this thing is scarlet red i mean glowing about the size of a dollar piece! the center is almost puple I think nasty spider bite or pimple so I squeze it no pus just some clear liquid now could this be mrsa? nah any so I shower alchol it 2 times and then put neosporin on it . Timeline Sunday19th I get up in morning right collar bone really sore like I broke it and iam achey! Iam still not on board to take abxs again but if red mark dosent get better which it did look better more pink. MOn Tues day My dog isnt acting right runs out of energy quick dosent want to eat as much either. Wedd this morning Oct 22nd 08 My shoulder now aching and bite looks good BUT where my puppy is sleeping wife comes to bathroom and said whats this OH MY Lord fully engorged TICK I think it was on me first I scratched it off in my sleep and it ended on my puppy.
What a Freaking Nightmare!!! Now I took to abxs at work one doxy one cedax untill tonight and puppy has vet appt 7:30pm.
After since 1988 untreated till treatment 2001march 8 years abxs NOW this really sucks.
And I have been bathing puppy every 5 days in permethrin shampoo becaus of fleas in our yard never a tick live in borogh, and he was on biospot. Tick looks dead but full! Nightmare again nope reality
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Vermont_Lymie
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Sorry, tree, that is awful.
Your bite sounds awful too, maybe you should go back to your llmd about it? If it could be lyme you know that it is best to nip it in the bud early. Take care.
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Im so sorry for you - Just think how many people this happens to on a daily basis where they have no idea whatsoever. So it shows how common Lyme is and that is sooooooo scary.
Get those AB's down you quickly and treatment will be short this time.
Best of luck Rianna
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sometimes when it rains.....i'm so sorry, i would have been freaking out.
i'd say run, don't walk, back to your llmd.
better safe than sorry...
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Yup Tree, you're living my nightmare.
Do you think the guy who came into your work, brought in the tick that bit you?
Or, do you mean to say that it's just a bad year for ticks all around . . .
I always wonder if I'm going to pick up a tick/bite from where I go, or who I'm around.
I've become quite anal about "prevention" in that sense----I let no tempting thought of going somewhere, or with someone (who might have ticks on them, where they live, in their car, etc) enter my mind . . . I had a situation where I did let my guard down, and came home from an event that I thought was "safe" only to find a live crawling tick on my stomach!!!!
And, this event was only a few months after I'd stopped taking abx for 3 years straight. Talk about a lightbulb moment!
I was back onto abx, and I HATED it. I know what you're going through.
So sorry, Julie
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treepatrol
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Thanks Guys I have a appointment on nov 3rd the earliest they could get me in. Nurse said do you have any abxs left I said yes. Start taking them which I started this morning had two spares at work doxy and cedex Ill start Minocin and Biaxin Xl tonight man this sucks. I have a fully engorged tick that was found next to my puppy this morning probably the one that was on me i probably scratched it off friday night pupp got it for a couple 3 days? Now he needs treatment and so do I this sucks.
1988 infected 2 strains treatment began 2001 until march 08 .Infected with bart and babs iam just freakin fed up!
* freakin years treating because I couldnt prove I was infected clear back in 1988 and tested every year until I found my LLMD and proved it through Igenex!! What a bummer
ps this tick is so full I cant even tell if its dog or deer tick!
I think Ill send it to Igenex but it looks dead no movement maybe the biospot killed it?? Is it still Viable??
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When you described the red-circular bite, at first it sounded like a spider bite.
I'm so sorry that you're needing abx, but so glad you didn't waste any time getting it! (Hugs to puppy too!)
Keep an eye on that circular bite, though. My brother got bitten by a brown recluse spider eventually had to have the bite site excised (cut out) due to dying tissue. He also experience Lyme-like symptoms.
Here's hoping for a speedy healing.
Best,
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I know from experience Tree that you are in panic mode. Defense and experience will get you through this.
Just goes to show....just because it's the end of Oct, doesn't mean the ticks are gone. They need a blood meal for survival of winter.
Tree, I hope everyone will be okay.
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Thanks yeah Iam mean after 8 years Iam just sick of this heck I work in the office I walk on the sidewalk and I even spray my office down with permethrin but no I had to go out where this numb nut no clue how bad lyme is and I even gave him a tick puller a good one. So I drag home this guy and saturday the tick magnet up and running ie me find red red red circle and what I thought ws a scab center which looking back I new it when I saw it was a bite hell I have been bitten in the past over 100 times 20 or so immbedded never ever had this rash other than after i dug it out i would get a little inflamed. This was was like other bites here at office and here on lymenet my stinking mind NEW but of dont panic yeah roght I wish I would have started abxs that mporning not 5 days later dang it I know better.!!! And my poor puppy butt has been draggin for 3 days. Hes had two baths in permethrin shampoo for fleas ticks he was on biospot! The tick looks like it fed and died happy son of a @@#$#%@@!#
The worst part is my wife luvs this puppy as if it bwas her child. I luv um too but not like her.
I am really pi**ed off Government just sticks there freakin head in the sand like the rest of the world and these pieces of crap Drs who say take one pill and your cured crap I am at my limit.
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Hi tree,
So sorry to hear about your "nightmare".
Although this is a "nightmare" you have everything on your side this time!!
My best to both of you!!
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That stinks. So sorry to read this!
You will get through this, because experience will kick in & you know what steps to take.
Sending you healing thoughts.
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Dear Tree,
I'd be mad as heck too!!!
Good news is both you and the puppy are easily treatable this go around.
Good thing someone found the tick.
What a way to wake up.
Sending you positive thoughts and prayers.
Hang in there.
You are an old pro at this.
Hugs,
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Yes, hold onto the tick for testing!
I do not know where it should go for testing, but maybe someone will respond who does.
Personally, I would also try calling the Columbia Lyme Research Center, whatever their name is, and ask for their post-doc who does tick testing. His name was Tokarz, or something that sounded like that?
He should know the score on tick testing. Their website lists their number as 212-543-6510.
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Be sure to check the expiration dates on those old meds you are taking. The cyclines can be toxic past the exp date.
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Treatment for Lyme Disease Although routine preventive antibiotic administration is not recommended for individuals with tick bites and no symptoms of disease, one substantive change in IDSA's treatment recommendations is that some selected, high-risk tick bites may be treated with a single dose of the antibiotic doxycycline for people who are eligible for the drug, according to Dr. Wormsy. Right off there freakin web!
One dose still out there floating around on the web Not funny!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Meg: Tree, I'm so sorry to hear this-!
There's one positive thing to all this though, you're a well educated victim of that tick....you know what needs to be done and what to look for.
Been there, done that so to speak. You're taking abx, seeing your Dr and hitting it head on right away.
Blessings to you both
Yes Iam thank you it still really makes mad
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You know you could almost say I am Obsessive-compulsive when it comes to ticks and being carefull ! Put it this way half the people at work avoid me. Why they ask and I tell them blunt hard facts no crap the truth about lyme and ticks and what they carry. People dont want to here it until they have it even then some are way way to proud to ask someone like me who went through the lyme wringer no theyll ask there dang dumb a*s dr that hasnt learned one thing since medical school.
And hear i am starting all over. I was only off abxs since beginning of march. If tick bites were the lottery I would be a trillionare!! This sucks I just cant wrap my head around this. T C, Melanie you out there? Any old timers been slammed with this great luck like me?
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TREE!!!!! NO!!!!!!
THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!
This is positively AWFUL!!!!
I can't even imagine your frustration.
If there is ANY chance it could have been a spider bite, it could be MRSA. MRSA can cause Sx similar to Lyme.
Maybe go to your regular duck to make sure it's not.?? What are the chances of you getting a spider bite & then puppy getting a tick-bite? (I guess I wish they were better)
Maybe you can get duck to at least order the co-infection tests so you don't have to wait for them to come back and bring a copy of the ATTY General's statement & ILADS guidelines & tell them you don't want to be Txd by guidelines that are being questioned.??
Also If you have lab-work that shows neg-pos-neg-pos, like mine, bring that with you.?
From what I was reading MDL can test ticks for Lyme + co-infections. Does Igenex?
I believe Buhner recommends Astragalus for prevention of re-infection and for acute cases (but not for chronic)
GARLIC!!!
The thought of this is making me SICK!!! I can't even fathom having that happen when you take so many precautions.
Oh Tree, I'm so very sorry this happened to you.
You have a definite advantage over an unsuspecting newbie. Your pup likely has an advantage over a human. Vets are usually more Lyme-aware right?
I think Vets usually follow a course of ABX with a course of metronidazole (or both at once?). My memory's not so clear on that one.
Let's all hope & pray that you & the poor pup kick it quick!
I can't even imagine getting to feel free from the ABX & then getting bitten again.
You got better before, you WILL do it again and this time should be MUCH easier!
hugs & lots of prayers, Ali
PS- Did Marnie say something about Glucosamine? or Chondroitin Sulfate?
Probiotics & Cordyceps for Immune Support!!!!!
I hope someone else can guide you from their experience.
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I havent talked to Marnie for a while so PS- Did Marnie say something about Glucosamine? or Chondroitin Sulfate?
Probiotics & Cordyceps for Immune Support!!!!! No. Igenex dose test ticks $65.00 per test Lyme Disease (B. burgdorferi) Babesiosis (B microti and/or B duncani)
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quote:Originally posted by treepatrol: Treatment for Lyme Disease Although routine preventive antibiotic administration is not recommended for individuals with tick bites and no symptoms of disease, one substantive change in IDSA's treatment recommendations is that some selected, high-risk tick bites may be treated with a single dose of the antibiotic doxycycline for people who are eligible for the drug, according to Dr. Wormser. Right off there freakin web!
One dose still out there floating around on the web Not funny!!!
I think we all agree IDSA is wrong and that more aggressive abx treatment is needed. But does that mean a continuous and high-dose abx treatment, if that is deemed necessary by the doc?
We can all agree that IDSA doesn't work for chronic Lyme. But I would submit that neither does ILADS. The main difference between the two is that ILADS protocol will make you better, but not recover.
If after "a while" you no longer see improvements, then yes something else is wrong. Coinfection, heavy metal tox, thyroid imbalance, etc are immediately on everyone's mind.
But even when you treat these things first it's my impression that we're still not fully recovering.
Thus, "something else" IS still wrong.
At this point doesn't it make sense to look elsewhere? You know, something that does not involve treatment methods such as abx, cyst busters, dmsa, elavil, B12 shots, Rife, etc.
Maybe I'm not paying attention enough cause I only come here now and then, and probably getting more unpopular every time I open my mouth, but it seems very few of us are considering holistic approaches...that we're basically all inclined to look for that magic bullet treatment.
Most of us are so focused on the micro aspects of Lyme disease...so focused on Bb and friends that we're forgetting the host.
You know, the host that is YOU, is a lot more important, capable and complex than Bb is. Yet, nearly everyone is focusing on killing Bb with various types of ammunition while mostly ignoring what the host can do to fight Bb and even more ignoring what can you do to help the host fight the fight against Bb.
Noone seems to question, "Is it really good to take all that Magnesium?"
Noone asks, "Does abx do more damage to my immune system than it's benefiting the "kill Bb" cause?"
...and so on.
Hardly anyone seems to accept nor consider that the human body is indeed an exceptionally strong machine, if you treat it correctly. That you'll basically never get sick with any disease if you are in perfect health. And that you can battle any disease much more efficiently by striving for optimal health.
I believe we all got sick to begin with simply because our bodies presented Bb with a "Welcome" sign to begin with.
I have no doubt I've been bitten, and so has my kids, numerous times over the years. Even though I look my kids over, only once have I actually pulled a tick of my littlest one. I'm quite sure I've missed some because I'm not consistent and frankly not worried either at this point anymore.
We're not developing symptoms. What I do is to feed my kids a diet and live a life of activity and knowledge about disease and diet so that they understand what's going on and how important it is to live a "proper" life to avoid getting sick.
Cause I truly believe it is impossible to NOT get infected with Bb and friends. It will happen sooner or later. But a healthy body will fight the infection.
And the key to health is sleep, water, diet, sun, exercise, fresh air and some supplements. The same ingredients that is present in the life of wild animals and indigenous people. They enjoy perfect health until they adopt a western living style. Then they start developing heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, Lyme, etc.
So is it so hard to figure out where the solution to a full recovery really is for 99% us?
Yes, there will be those of us with genetic disorders that will require some western interference.
And yes, in some case abx should be used...like if you get an MRSA infection.
But in the grand scheme of things, there is no substitute for living a truly healthy life. Nothing will help you more battling disease than having optimal health.
Now, optimal health is highly individual. It's not a one-size-fits-all solution. Basically, the food pyramid does NOT apply here. Pasteurized milk is out. You must drink pH balanced clean water (this precludes Poland, Deer park, and such). Figure out how to fall asleep naturally (and it IS possible.) And so on.
IMO, you need to get totally involved in your own health. You must become intimately involved with your body's responses and signals so you can recognize, OBJECTIVELY, what effect various foods, supplements, sleep, etc has on your body. This alone is an invaluable tool.
Get yourself a set of pH strips, a blood pressure monitor, couple of thermometers, a urine analysis kit, and so on to obtain objective information to assist in your self diagnosis.
You should figure out, BY YOURSELF, what optimal health means to you. If anyone tells your, or imposes onto you, what is in your best interested, then you should probably run for your life. They most likely couldn't give a damn about your health.
The only way to find info that is of true benefit to your health, is if you personally and actively seek it out with an open and critical mind making no assumptions about what is right and wrong.
My 2c.
Michael
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We have been finding some fully engorged ticks around here too; WARNING: they look dead, but they are NOT. If you watch and wait (we put one in a baggie) eventually they begin to crawl around.
I have said for YEARS that October is by far the worst month for ticks. This is based on what I see in my animals. My cat, even though treated with BioSpot, dropped a fully engorged tick right on the chair yesterday.
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tree,
so sorry to read they got you again! darn it all! i hadn't seen you post in quite some time.
best wishes my friend on this bad trip again.
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Hey there Dearheart,
Goodness! I am so sorry that you are dealing with the re-bite issue. Yes, it does stink...especially when we think we are well on the mend.
I'm positive I was re-bitten too when I moved here to CA. I was doing So well, and had a terrible time with all new symptoms.
The good news is... you are already an expert at what to do for yourself and your furry friend! So, you are way ahead of the game in that respect.
My cat got ill here too, and was on Doxy for almost a year. He is doing GREAT now, so please try not to worry about the pup, OK?
Chances are, you are going to feel rather cruddy for awhile, but since you caught it early this time, you should recover MUCH faster!
You have my email if ever you need some moral support, OK?
Much love, M
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PS...get a photo of that rash.
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Oh Treepatrol,
Sounds like the critter hitched I ride on a neighbor, and made a drop at your stop.
Did you hear about the plane that was grounded recently to finding three ticks on it.
I have to go back to PA for some surgery soon, and I'm horrified about whose gonna stop at my stop.
To me it's like radiation contamination. When it's really there, it's everywhere.
Hugs,
I'll be mad for you too
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This was the Marnie thread on Condroitin Sulfate:
I don't know if it would be helpful. I was just trying to think of things I might try if I were in your position.
I'm sure that you are already well aware that nutritional many deficiencies can mimic neurological lyme Sx (I've seen you post about a lot of that, B-12 etc).
I am sure that eating right, drinking pure water & balancing your ph is very important but personally, I wouldn't rely on that alone.
You've gotten yourself well once, you KNOW what's worked for you and I would go with that.
IMO, I don't believe that your nutritional status is the reason you feel ill from this bite.
hugs & more prayers, Ali
PS - Thanks for the info on Igenex testing. The book I was reading must have had incomplete/inaccurate info. I'd certainly rather have Igenex test for Lyme.
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Hang in there tree! Atleast you know whats up! And you know what to do! You will beat this...and faster im sure! Kick its butt!
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Thannk you everyone I was a just a little peeOOd yesterday. I started minocin and Biaxin XL lastnight . Puppy started doxy half a pill and about a half hour later lost his supper so I gave him another dose this morning sofar okay apparently enty stomach is better then food on top later.
$136.00 trip to the vet lastnight 30 days of pills and intercepter and avantix sp? and iam off to Dr Joe nov 3rd . Do you think my wife should do a small coarse of abxs to she wasnt bit by ticks but fleas off Sir Buttons My pup cockApoo?
Love ya guys
ps I doubled my dose lastnoght because of the 4 days inbetween the bite and the sart of treatment that made the ears ring hahaha tummy got a little bloated feeling too hahaha!
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Our new house site is loaded with Deer Ticks. I have had as many as four or five on me when they are out in force. Twice I have been bit.
I take MMS after being bit for a week or so. I now also have some Doxy on hand if we need it.
If you live in a Deer Tick infested area I think you should have a plan and medications to treat immediately. Time is of the essence when you are bit.
I hope you are OK TreePatrol.
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Hey Tree...
Just saw your post. YULK!!
NOT fair either! So sorry the ticks got you in the pits. And the puppy too. Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
And talk about freak out! I'd be dancing on the ceiling if I were you. Or stomping on the devil's head by now. You are taking this MUCH better than I could.
I've noted a number of folks over the years who have been treated for a long while... and been re-bitten. ALL of them pretty much freaked out. That is a normal reaction.
The ONE thing you and those others have going for them is the fact they have been there, done that. EDUCATION is what saved them and will be what saves you.
You saw the rash... started the meds LONG before most would or could have.. and you WILL stay on top of the situation.
I've often thought the reason we got Lyme in the first place is so we would educate ourselves and be "ready" for the next go around.
Sometimes that seems to be true. Sad, but true.
And if ANYONE is ready to take this on again.. YOU are. NOT that any one wants to deal with it... but you are one of the smartest people I know concerning TBD's and if the stinking tick HAD to bite anyone... better you than another innocent and uneducated child.
I KNOW that isn't much comfort... but there isn't much comforting that I can say in this situation. NO ONE would like another bite... and NONE of us deserves it.
I have a friend who started Lyme treatment early this spring. Since they have been treated (still on treatment)... they have been VERY careful, yet have been bitten about 6 more times this year. Interesting to note- they haven't gotten any sicker... only better.
I know when faced with this nightmare, not many have the ability to "think" because of the freaking out. That said... I KNOW you know this... but just a reminder.
You COULD go to the local doc in a box with tick in hand and while the rash still there. They should give you doxy at least till you can get to the LLMD. Think about that. It might be a good thing.
You might also "make a LLMD" out of the local doc? If you do, if this ever happens again, you should be able to call them and get meds immediately.
Doggie doxy is the same as people doxy.
Don't forget the acidophulis.
Watch for yeast. Cut back on sugars now.. and at least till treatment is done.
I wouldn't think some vitamins would hurt you? Maybe build yourself up a bit and rambo up that immune system.
Don't assume the latest bite will be like the first. You are smarter now... you caught it VERY early... and you WILL pay attention.
NORMALLY when folks who have been Lymed in the past get re-bitten... they treat it and get over it. It isn't even close to being as rough as the first time.
You have a HUGE fan club here and do know we are all cheering you on. AND we want updates! Gotta keep an eye on our favorite tree.
If you need or want for anything... you know how to find me.
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As always TC you are the best in using your ability to comunicate!!Y ou need to write a book ! You could help so many TC with your ability to make people laugh and then your knowledge of TBD Luvya Iam on minocin and biaxin XL and will start tindamax after I talk to LLMD on the 3rd nov. Sir Buttons is on doxy although the first one was thrown up 1hr after taking sofar he is tolerating the last 2 doses given on empty tummy and then eats.
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Hey ho Tree,
I stopped in early just to check on you today... and like they say in one of my favorite movies...
"And your little dog too!"
Then I'm heading out on my broomstick so I can be ready when the tornado hits.
Good to see you are addressing the situation in this manner. Sorry about the puppy and its tender tummy.
It got me thinking. Yes.. this early in the morning! I know... that could be dangerous! HA!
And I suggest this ONLY because it makes MY tummy hurt to see the pup taking doxy on a totally empty stomach.
And I suggest it because I'm not the one who has to clean up the throw-up off the floor if it doesn't work. I mean let's get real. I'm not stupid. HA!
Anyhow... hehehe
Could the pup eat a few bites at least... then take the doxy... then follow it with more food?
Do you think that might work?
I've treated dogs before.. ones that have been infected a long time, so it isn't quite like your case... but thought I'd share this....
They would take doxy a couple of days... then herx (?) for a couple days (scary).. then come back as good as new. The doxy would continue of course... till done.
I have also watched the recovery process for many humans and dogs over the years.
This is how it usually goes.
1. Dog gets better a LOT faster than humans.
2. Children get better faster than adults.
3. Adults come in third in the race... but recover, if caught early enough (within a year), much faster than those who have been sick a longer time.
Now... answer me this...
May I have this dance?
Love you! And thanks for the kind words. I smile.
PS.. I am not a doctor.. or a vet. But I know a girl named tutu.. who slept in a Holiday Inn once.
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Boy what a headache stiff neck over the weekend of 10/26-27/08 Biaxin xl & minocin.
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I am one of those re-bitten people - and I am totally freaking out. Found tick on my leg a week ago despite doing thorough check every night. Now I am constantly whipping off my clothes for the slightest itch, brushing my 2 dogs every time they come inside, vacuuming constantly, and had the yard sprayed for ticks today. I feel afraid in my own house.
I was just beginning to do better after months of misery so I am sure that some of the tight muscles etc I am now feeling are caused by stress and anxiety. Waiting for results of tick test from Igenex - paid for 4 tests - they did say it was 99% accurate.
LLMD says I am protected from lyme as I was already on amoxy but not from coinfections. Says it is too soon to test me for those - better 2-3 weeks after the bite. But every little thing I feel I imagine I am getting worse. I am living with a magnifying glass at hand checking every dark speck I see - this is crazy!
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How horrible!! I would be more than just a little freaked out!
The puppy will probably recover in no time and you'll still be taking meds. Such is life!
UGH!!!!
I'm SOOOO sorry to hear this!!!
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Stay tough Tree! You'll beat this again. What's your Biaxin dose? When i got re-infected I did well on 2,000 mg/Biaxin + 3,000 mg Ceftin and 1.2 MU Bicillin LA 4x week plus Pulsed Flagyl.
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It so stinks to get bit again. At least this time you know what the battle is.
I'm hoping that you and you puppy get well soon.
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Thanks everybody ! I really think this site serves people very well support really helps!!!! Wildcondor my dose untill I get to the llmd is Biaxin XL 500mg 2 x a day and Minocin 100mgs 2 x a day. pups on half a pill doxy every morning.
When I went to work that morning of having my world rattled again I found some abx's I had stashed 1 doxy and 1 cedax man that cedax made me feel like I took levaquin again sheeeshh!!
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Tree, I'm so sorry to hear this has happened to you once again. At least this time around you know what to do to get better. I know it doesn't lessen the anquish.
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Thanks Stella
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Yeah, I'd take double that Biaxin dose if you can! Atleast 1,500 mg/day! hang in there and keep fighting!
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quote:Originally posted by WildCondor: Gotcha!
Yeah, I'd take double that Biaxin dose if you can! Atleast 1,500 mg/day! hang in there and keep fighting!
My ears are ringing already and my mouth tastes like a handfull of nickles and quarters now hahahaha
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Oh Tree, I'm so sorry to read this. I hope you can get it fast. And if the abx alone don't do it alone, then maybe consider the 880nm light treatment too?
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Well back fr llmd's and took my last minocin 100mg 2xaday Finished it. But continue Biaxin XL-500mg 2xaday and added in Tindamax 500mg 2xaday.
Puppy still having trouble on doxy throws up about every other day?
Anybody know what would help him keep it down?
I have been keeping his head up 15min or so every morning and he seems better if he eats his bone 15mins after 1/2doxy? Cant redose because not sure after throwing up if it all came up pill disoved etc.
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Tree, remember that potato chips (not any exotic types, just plain Lays) can cut, or take out, the Biaxin metallic taste!
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quote:Originally posted by Just Julie: Tree, remember that potato chips (not any exotic types, just plain Lays) can cut, or take out, the Biaxin metallic taste!
Thanks Julie I like the low salt lays I didnt know they cleared the taste.
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Wow, so sorry to hear this!! Hang in there!! I hope you and your puppy will be fine.
Kathy
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Here is the results for the Tick Test Igenex Rickettsia-Babesiosis-Lyme Disease (B. burgdorferi)Those three Possitive
Negative for Ehrlichiosis (Ehrlichia)- Bartonella henselae.
One bite 3 diseases great !!
Dont forget I am from central Pennsylvania clearfield county.
RMSF-Babs-Lyme in one tick no ones safe!!
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No more pets for my household untill I learn to keep bugs under control. Only fishes. Unless they too carry ticks. He, he.
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quote:Originally posted by bettyg: good grief charlie brown.....
tree, i'm so sorry to read of 3 things that darn tick gave you! best wishes on your treatments and glad you had the tick tested.
which lab tested if i may ask?
Tick tested Igenex Round TWO disgusting isnt it?
Hi Russia
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I have had extreamly sore feet and they have been on fire all day and night for about 10 days now there just sore and a little warm? I have been on biaxin xl & Tindamax before and never had this? although my headaches have lessened but still get the sore neck under the back of my head and when I get up in the morning the soreness dosent turn into the bad headach now like it did? So what symptom abx's or RMSF or Lyme or Babesia does this fit?
This pain in the back of head neck at base of scull similar to lyme induced encephilitis I had before But different Odd Huh?
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thinking and praying for you my dear friend!
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Poor you and puppy...
Babesia causes headaches, and specially when you kill it. Are you on a killing protocol for it?
Only 3 pathogens? You are lucky.
I only did energetic tests, but last tick bite in summer 2007 gave me ALL pathogens my lyme doctor could test. Rickettsia, babs, bart, borrelia, ehrlichia, mycoplasma, chlamydia, what else?
Watch out for GI candida. People don't usually think candida is trasmitted by a tick bite...
At least you know what you are fighting, I hope this will come to your advantage now!
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quote:Originally posted by Brussels: Poor you and puppy...
Babesia causes headaches, and specially when you kill it. Are you on a killing protocol for it?
Only 3 pathogens? You are lucky.
I only did energetic tests, but last tick bite in summer 2007 gave me ALL pathogens my lyme doctor could test. Rickettsia, babs, bart, borrelia, ehrlichia, mycoplasma, chlamydia, what else?
Watch out for GI candida. People don't usually think candida is trasmitted by a tick bite...
At least you know what you are fighting, I hope this will come to your advantage now!
Lucky hahahahahaha only three ahahahahahaha! I only tested for five three out five is only lucky if there lottery tickets. I was treated for eight years before this happened and was only off abx's 8 months lucky I aint hahaha
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Sorry Tree, I didn't mean to be bad. I didn't know you tested only 5 pathogens... It sounds bad.
But believe me, unlucky guys get ALL OF THEM.
I was bitten almost every year. More than once even. So does my little child. We both got all of them (the only one my daughter didn't get was babesia so far), about 3 times each!
sorry if I sounded mean. I know it sucks, just wanted to tell you you are not alone in the reinfection story. Not at all.
The last reinfection of my daughter had TBE inside (this May), it was the toughest of all for us.
I'm sure with all your experience, you'll find ways to fight this acute infection fast. We keep hearing it's faster to deal with the acute phase than when it gets chronic. Fingers crossed for you.
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Brussels I wasnt offended just struck me funny being lucky hahaha
Thank you.
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