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I noticed that ever since I did abx for a few months, my belly (like right where my actual stomach is) is SORE...and then on top of that, whether it is a coincidence or not...my skin burns right where my stomach is.
I also noticed that my belly makes loud, horrendous sounds...I mean like hungry belly x100. It's such an odd sound. I have been off abx for at least a few weeks and was hoping that maybe this was a yeast issue and would go away with an abx break.
So, my belly makes loud sounds (I'm nauseated and have lots of diarrhea also, all of the time), it aches on the inside and burns topically on the outside.
Does this sound yeast related? I had to have a ultra sound of my gallbladder before I started i.v. Rocephin to make sure I didn't have gallbladder issues to begin with, my llmd ordered an u/s "due to stomach pain" so that my insurance would cover it.
So, they did an u/s of my entire gut, liver, kidneys, gallbladder, stomach, etc...and nothing was noted as being wrong...and I did have this pain back then also.
Does yeast go away on it's own? What medication should I ask for when I go to the doctor about this...he's not Lyme Literate or Lyme friendly, so I was going to ask you all who are familiar with yeast problems due to lots of abx use FIRST....so that he doesn't steer me wrong or give me too "light" of a medication.
Another thing, I obviously DO have yeast (I never thought I did) because when I got a pap smear, it said that I had something like "fungal infection (or whatever it's called) coinciding with Candida." I know I didn't state that right, but that was basically what it said!!!! On the other hand, I had no physical implications of a yeast infection. I've never had one before but I assume I would notice if something was off or different...but apparently I did not. I did a round of vaginal yeast treatment but I don't know if it got rid of it because I did not know it was there before! I just got another pap, so I'm assuming it will let me know
Are candida and yeast the same thing? DUMB QUESTION I KNOW!
Thanks. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to this.
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Angelica
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Candida yeast and fungus are all the same thing.
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Most LLMD's will put you on something to prevent yeast such as Diflucan or Nystatin. You should also be taking a probiotic whenever you are on abx.
Are you following the "yeast diet" If you are not familiar with it, do a search here (top of page)
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C.diff stands for Clostridium difficile. Clostridium difficile is a bacterrium which is presented as one of the 'normal' bacteria in the gut. It occurs in about 3% of healthy adults and is common in babies and infants.
C. difficile does not normally cause problems in children or in adults as the bacterium is kept in check by the normal, 'good' bacteria in the gut.
However, it can cause illness when its growth goes unchecked. For example, treatment with certain antibiotics can disturb the balance of 'normal' bacteria in the gut, allowing C. difficile to thrive.
There are many different types of the C. difficile bacterium, some more severe than others. However, all types of C. diff can be treated with antibiotics.
What problems can C. difficile cause?
When patients are treated with certain so called 'broad spectrum antibiotics' (those that affect a wide range of bacteria), this can disturb the balance of bacteria in the gut, allowing C. difficile to multiply rapidly and produce toxins (poisons) which cause diarrhoea.
This can range from mild diarrhoea to a severe inflammation of the bowel, with ulceration and bleeding from the colon.
At worst, it can cause perforation of the intestine which can lead to peritonitis. It can be life threatening.
Who gets C. difficile?
Patients who have been treated with broad spectrum antibiotics, particularly elderly patients over the age of 65 with serious underlying illnesses, are most at risk of infection.
Repeated enemas, gut surgery and a long stay in hospital all increase a person's risk of developing the disease.
How can it spread?
Infection is usually spread on the hands of people who come into contact with infected patients or with surfaces which are contaminated with the bacteria or its spores.
A patient who has C. difficile diarrhoea excretes large numbers of spores in their faeces.
These spores, which can survice for a long time, can contaminate surfaces around the patient's bed, floors, bedpans, toilet areas, sluices etc.
The spores can then be transported on the hands of other people who have direct contact with infected patients or with these surfaces.
What is the hospital doing to help prevent the spread of C. difficile?
To help prevent the spread of infection the hospital will ensure that:
healthcare staff follow excellent hand hygiene practices.
Hands must be thoroughly washed with soap and water between treating patients (alcohol gel alone is NOT sufficient).
staff wear disposable gloves and aprons when caring for infected patients.
infected patients are isolated - either in a separate room or in a bay with other infected patients.
rigorous and thorough decontamination and cleaning of surfaces with warm water and detergent.
linen from patients with suspected or confirmed C. difficile diarrhoea is placed in specially-labelled bags.
In an outbreak situation, the Infection Control Team may introduce special measure for staff, patients and visitors to follow.
How can it be treated?
C. difficile infection can be treated with specific antibiotics.
Most patients with C. difficile diarrhoea make a full recovery. However, patients with other underlying conditions, particularly elderly patients, may be affected more severely. Occasionally, infection in these patients may be life threatening.
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Hope,
It is important to always continue with your high culture/high strain probiotic and an antifungal (preferably herbal if possible) for months and months after you stop abx.
Another to consider besides pumping up your probiotics and antifungal, is maybe a digestive enzyme.
You may need an rx for nystatin or diflucan, but I would check with the doctor about that.
And VSL#3, a very high strengnth probiotic (450 billion cultures)is for gut problems too.
Dont forget to avoid sugar, as yeast will continue to flourish until your defenses get killed by the antifungal and good bacteria replenshed by the acidophilus -- and that can take a long, long time after you stop abx.
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UGHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I'm already so queezy as it is....I barely eat or drink anything in a day...having to eat or drink something that totally doesn't sound half way appetizing suckkkkkkkkks. And even at that, I will dream up something that sounds good and think I'll be able to eat it and then sit down, and won't be able to get it down the hatch!
But, that's probably how I got here. I didn't watch it when I was on abx. I have a HUGE food aversion along with being in pain...I worry that I don't eat or drink enough. While water is my main intake (because nothing really tastes "right" anymore), I am guilty of having a small glass or two of sweet tea.
As far as food goes....I've never watched it, just considered myself lucky for being able to eat something! WAAAAAH!
Is there any way to test for yeast in your gut? Or can I assume because a pap found it, that my gut has it two?
I hate abx, I never want to go back on them...YUCK. They've destroyed the rest of my body. I'm really angry at them right now.
This sucks!!!!!! All I know is my belly hurts. I quit taking probiotics a week after I quit abx. Oooops. I was so tired of swallowing pills. I just wanted a break from it all.
I feel like throwing a temper tantrum.
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Get a stool test done for c.diff. Sounds just like it! keep OFF antibiotics until you are sure you don't have c.diff. Make sure you get the stool sample to the lab fast..within an hour. Do the test 3 days in a row. So get a Rx for a c.diff test and stool cultures. If its + you'll need Flagyl/vancomycin orally.
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Its most likely yeast. And an Injured Digestive system. People with yeast or on antibiotics should be taking stuff to help prevent a leaky gut. A good supplement that will help with that is Permeability Complex 1 by Pharmax. If u have yeast then u most likely have a leaky gut. Take a good probiotic and something like Capryic Acid should help heal the gut as well as protect it. I'd also recommend MSM. You can google it. Its good for this sort of thing.
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be tested for food allergies ....
gluten/wheat and dairy
i learned 3 yrs. ago i have both and i know i've had 30-35 years! good luck to you
ps ... my stomach is like THUNDER!! loud/clanging.
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Dizzy, I started the probiotics again since you seemed to describe your tummy stuff a lot like I would. It seemed to have helped a little bit, just in 2 days. I'm going to keep at it for a while to see if it helps or not. I haven't had any loud noises at all and my tummy still feels sore but no burning on the outside (weird symptom, I know). It's not as bad as it was.
I hope it keeps getting better and stays this way. But I had really bad diarrhea (more than usual) this morning, maybe it was yeast die off? Who knows.
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