lymie_in_md
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I found this link I thought might of interest. I know this going to be gross, but we tend to do everything orally, this researching PHD is suggesting we do it rectally. Check out the link, I'm curious about some thought on this.
At least if the medicine doesn't taste to good, there are no taste buds there.
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clairenotes
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I will say this... more of the remedies I took were in suppository form which seemed to work better for me as it by-passes the digestive process and the substance can remain relatively pure to do its' work in the body.
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lymie_in_md
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I've read the link a number of times now. The author brought out some very interesting points. The main point I'm wondering about is the digestive system. When we take a probiotic and it has to travel such a distance to get to the rectum, has it lost all power by the time it gets there? Can you win the war against an intrenched enemy such as parasite or ecoli, or c-diff if it is in your rectum?
I've searched far and wide for any information about it. And can't find a thing! It as if it is so taboo, there is no research on it, or very little. Yet for animals there is quite a bit more still not a lot.
So if there is anyone who is going to see an LLMD or LLND or alternative doctor, print out the link and ask them to read and give an opinion. I have the feeling if babesia has compromised the rectal area. It may be invincible there. And given the shear number of nerve endings, many of the neural symptoms could be eliminated if the pathogens were eliminated at least there.
This is especially important for women, because of the proximity of the rectum to the vaginal wall. It may also explain why women are more susceptible to lyme & co. symptoms then men.
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Just want to say when I do colonics or coffee enemas I implant with the good probiotics. Thanks Bob for posting this.
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glm1111
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I make a poultice of yogurt and probiotics put a couple of paper towels in my underwear(I know this sounds wierd, but it works)and slap it on the area and sit down so it goes up my entire G. I track.
I also take a handful and slap it on my back so it is absorbed thru my skin into the small intestine.
I guess you might say I believe in going the direct route. P. S. It does not ruin your clothes and I have had some really good herxes from this.
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: I make a poultice of yogurt and probiotics put a couple of paper towels in my underwear(I know this sounds wierd, but it works)and slap it on the area and sit down so it goes up my entire G. I track.
I also take a handful and slap it on my back so it is absorbed thru my skin into the small intestine.
I guess you might say I believe in going the direct route. P. S. It does not ruin your clothes and I have had some really good herxes from this.
Oh my.
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bejoy
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My ND prefers a combination of the northern and southern routes, especialy when there is inflammation in the lower GI.
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lymie_in_md
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Didn't expect to get to the women's side of the issue. But it is new territory. Check this out ladies.
Okay, I have battled with candida for years and years which I attribute mostly to the hoards of antibiotics I did in my youth for ear infections and acne. Ugh.
Anyways, there are several things that I've done that have helped. It's hard to say that any one thing cinched it (actually, there is one thing that nipped it in the bud but it's pretty unconventional- will mention it later), but for me I think it has taken several rounds of treatments in order to get it under control. Let me just say, that I don't think there is any ONE product that it going to rid you of your candida problem. I know some advertise that they are kind of the golden ticket to recovery. Gotta watch out for those!
My body is actually pretty tricky, so not everyone may need to try everything that I have. But I'll still include it all.
I found that adhering to a strict candida diet was very important. I think that the "Body Ecology Diet" is a good source of info and fermented foods are very helpful. However I found out that I have an allergy to one of the strains of bacteria responsible for fermenting/culturing, so that complicated things for me. I found that high quality probiotics were very important- especially the kind that you find in the refrigerated section of HFS. They generally have more potency. I like the Pharmax HLC line, but there are many good ones.
I tried Oil of Oregano and other such products, and found them to be helpful, too. But keep in mind that anti-fungals need to be cycled on a regular basis so that the body doesn't become resistant to them.
Another VERY helpful therapy- colon hydrotherapy. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's effective! Following up with a rectal probiotic implant is almost essential. The colonic helps flush bacteria out of the system and the implant brings in the big guns. Make sure you find a good therapist that is knowledgeable and knows to use warm water when dealing with dysbiosis/candida.
Keep in mind that when you are dealing with candida, you are often also dealing with "leaky gut", so healing the intestinal lining is just as important as restoring the proper balance of bacteria. Supplements containing L-Glutamine and Glucosamine are helpful with this.
Finally, I found a ton of help from a therapy called NMT that my naturopath practices. The website is http://www.nmt.md/PatientIndex.cfm. It is very unconventional medicine, but extremely effective. I have been dealing with digestive issues, candida, food allergies, immune stuff, etc., for a long time and this is the only thing that has really resolved many of these issues for me- including the candida. I think this is because the candida problem was intermingled with other things for me, like leaky gut and allergies to certain beneficial bacteria and anti-fungals.
So. There ya go! I don't know if this is helpful for anyone, or simply overwhelming.
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sparkle7
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Interesting! Especially about the NMT. I'll have to study it further.
Bob- women try all kinds of things when they have vaginal infections... LOL
Seems like a good idea to try this method if you have these kinds of issues. I'll have to give it some thought!
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I would bet that getting a cheap ozone maker that ozoneates water, and prompty drinking the water would be magical for yeast.
I know also that HBOT is well known to treat severe yeast.
Olive leaf is suppost to be very good too.
Laruic acid in coocnut oil kills yeast. And non toxic at all.
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glm1111
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Well guys, I guess I've let the cat out of the bag I have always been an out of the box thinker All puns intended.
Okay men you can benefit from this too. The only thing is the paper towels get expensive. Gael
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