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jamescase20
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I have a phase contrast microscope at home and have done many tests with compounds from ABX to herbs to poisons, etc. testing them on blood smears and inside my body.

I have come full circle and came to the same conclusion as before several months ago.

MMS and laruic Acid together is my conclusion as the BEST by FAR treatment for these invaders.

I appear to have bart, lyme, mycoplasma, um, babsia residual.

I've TRIED using a natpath, I TRIED using a LLMD, same conclusion, standard treatment for my bugs dont work very well at all. And then the yeast overgrowth comes.

Anyway, so I am not saying I am cured, but I have tried many things and I have come back to my orginal discovery, that mms and laruic acid was the best TX for me.

Thats it.. I am using mms (likely topically and orally) and laruic acid (coconut oil...virgin) I use monolarin instead.

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CD57
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James, can you elaborate more? How were you able to determine MMS and lauric acid kills these bugs? what doses were you using? did you herx?
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from his scope....

theres a gentlemen names lou on here who recently went to a dr in nyc who does mms iv and hes still as sick as ever.

everyone is different and no one therapy can be applied to everyone unfortunately.

james, hope ur feeling better soon.

it might behoove you to pick a protocol and stick top it for a few months before deciding to change everything up.

dramatic changes rapidly may not be the best way to evaluate if something is working or not.

just my 2 cents...

cheers

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sparkle7
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Also - what happens in vitro is different that in vivo...

When you remove your blood & do a "test" it doesn't mean that this will happen in your tissues or other places where "bugs" can hide.

Maybe you could look into Rife or infrared light? Some people have had success with them. It's not always "chemical"... Many people seem to be doing well with "energetic medicine".

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I noticed in Dr Klinghardt's new protocol, he recommends MMS. I was kind of surprised to see that.

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jamescase20
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I did test my blood internally, as I took the mms then checked the blood, but I also did smear testing, theres no question, its not snake oil is all my point. I thought it was....at first, but its not.

I just discovered something very strange, the mms does not appear to be getting into my red cells...long explanation, but I have a hunch its a severe magnesium defeintcy, and I am going to take a bunch of mag and see what happens.

Ltrs

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James,

MMS was the hardest hitting treatment my wife has used so far. The problem is she had to stop due to stomach sensitivity.

I used it to clear my Crohn's symptoms. It was the only treatment of many that was 100% effective.

If someone knows the transdermal protocol for MMS please send me a PM. I just became aware of this method that would allow a long term MMS treatment for my wife.

My wife can herx on Mg alone if she is loaded with active spirochetes. Mg is an important mineral for her.

D Bergy

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Magnesium added to my MMS FRIED and killed EVERYTHING in 2 hours!!!

I cant believe it!

I am serious...somehow the mms was not able to get into my red blood cells as live bugs where hiding inside there....i took heavy dosed magnesium and waited 3 hours...rechecked under my scope...and EVERY single bug was DEAD.

OMG....so happy. WEll, we will see tommrrow...I have failed before, and been wrong too.

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Could you just be showing Dr. K's theory that virus and fungus must be treated with Lyme and that you cannot really just attempt to treat Lyme as these bugs are too inter-related? Sounds like it.

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Hello. I would love love love to hear more about what you find out about the MMS and Magnesium etc that you talk about from the microscope data. How greatly scientific and wonderful to do.
I am very intrigued and I am very scientific and data driven and would love to know what your doing and finding. Why does the Post say. I GIVE UP?
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One piece of advice.

DO NOT GIVE UP!

I as well as all of us on this board want to give up sometimes for weeks, months or even years.

Giving up is the disease talking along with all the hardships, politics and feelings of being beaten..wich we are all I feel free to feel.

I agree with DFJ2005...

STICK TO ONE PROTOCOL FOR AT LEAST 9 months!!!!

One that address all your co-infections, deficiency's and detox.

Then, if that does'nt work..next. I did not turn around for over a year in a half.

I am young. I was a fitness model. I had no brain damage that could be shown on tests. I had it under a year.

This disease takes everything from you. Sounds cheezy but I never met anyone who was better or hit remission by telling me, I gave up.

You can do this. I agree with dfj2005..it would behove you to stick to one protocol. I will even go farther and say stick to it for a year.

I am sorry you are so sad and defeated. Don't give up 5 minutes before your race is won.

You have no idea when you will cross your finish line.. but I promise, you will if dig feet in the ground and fight like hell.

I was very sick. I thought I would die. I really did.

I am at my 2 year mark of treatment. And I am SOOO happy I stuck it out. I did'nt die. In fact I got better, almost well this summer before I stopped a treatment that was working for me due to of course, expense. I am on my way back up. Last Christmas I posted on this board in desperation from Chico so defeated. I got a job a few months ago, I went back to the gym. I traveled..by myself. Maybe you can do these things, I could barely walk.

Please, PM me. I am here for you.

Jen

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Hi There. I just want to clear something up. I was not saying I am giving up.!! NO no No.. But I was just asking why this POST heading is Named "I Give Up"???? I did not understand that .. That is all. NO worries.. I am fine and I so appreciate you caring and being there for me or someone who feels that way.

I was intigued by your choice of treatment and wanted to hear more about it. Do you do MMS still and I have someone I know who really is saying it is a a great thing to try.

>>>>?? I just wanted to hear more about it and how it affects the infections and how you respond and if it is like the ABX and you herx and all that stuff.?

THANK YOU AGAIN for your caring and kind words.
I have been sick for 8 years ..
And I will Not give UP

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Hi again.
Could you tell me where the best place is to get MMS. .I have already been looking online for about a month at this product and then when I saw your post it got me thinking about it some more.
I see it on various web sites and I am sure there is a better place than others to get it.>??

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I agree with derek.

What works for one person doesn not mean it will work for the next person. YOu need to make that clear when you post these studies.

Also the only valid way of doing these studies is taking it internally and then doing a blood draw.

IF you apply the antibiotic to the blood once its pulled from the body that testing method is flawed in many ways. The most obvious is that in order to reach those blood levels in thebody you would need to take maybe 1000 times what you are actually taking and its no wonder that kills the bacteria...that would also kill the person.

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