seekhelp
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I currently take 400-500 mg of Magnesium in powder form per day with calcium. I can't say it's done anything amazing. Have any of you noticed significant improvements in muscle spasms when upping Mg to 900 mg or more? Are the gains incrementsl?
Or is it more like if the initial dose of Mg doesn't make much difference, higher does probably won't either?
How long does it take to work?
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Hey Seekhelp.......I think everyone is different on the amount of Mg to take.....Depending on the severity of their condition......
I have heard to increase the Mg levels until it gives you loose stools and then back down from there a little.......I think you definitely need to "front load" in the beginning until your system is built back up......It could take a long time to restore the mitochondrial function....
How long have you been taking it???? Are you taking any other mitochondrial supplements......like CoQ10, L Carnitine or other Amino acids???? They could also help build your muscle strength and endurance....... "
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I didn't know if there was a danger level. I never exceeded 800 mg. In fact, mostly 400 mg as I stated is norm.
I have CO-Q10, but I can't take it since I'm on Malarone. I have not taken the others (L-Carnitine or other amino acids). I have creatine at home.
I'm desperate to get rid of my muscle tightness. The muscles just can't handle any strain. Not exercising is just terrible. I've done very little the last year and that scares me.
I used to be as active as possible. I feel like I'm heading down a road of heart issues later even though all cardiac testing is normal now. You can't just not work-out one bit. I do move whenever I can, but when you muscles tighten up so fast upon any exertion, you're truly limited.
I went through extensive neuromuscular testing and nothing was found. They swear there are no issues with mitochondrial or metabolic pathways. It's just shocking to me.
quote:Originally posted by Kingneptune11: Hey Seekhelp.......I think everyone is different on the amount of Mg to take.....Depending on the severity of their condition......
I have heard to increase the Mg levels until it gives you loose stools and then back down from there a little.......I think you definitely need to "front load" in the beginning until your system is built back up......It could take a long time to restore the mitochondrial function....
How long have you been taking it???? Are you taking any other mitochondrial supplements......like CoQ10, L Carnitine or other Amino acids???? They could also help build your muscle strength and endurance....... "
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Hi I have been really resarching on Magnesium recommendations for Lyme patients. Here is a reading I have come across muciltple time.. there are contradictions and I am trying to get as much information before I make a choice on how to take magnesium. There are only a real few supplemetns I want to take ongoing and the others just come and go. fo rme..
MAGNESIUM TREATMENT
Many Lyme disease patients experience symptoms that mimic magnesium deficiency. In 2003, a case report of magnesium deficiency with Lyme disease was reported in the Magnesium Research journal. See here. Symptoms of magnesium deficiency include muscle cramps and weakness, pain, fatigue and insomnia, confusion, heart problems and stress intolerance. Magnesium plays a very important role in energy production.
Magnesium deficiency is common amongst Lyme patients and also in the general population. The deficiency is often missed by physicians due to the reliance on serum tests instead of the magnesium levels within the red blood cells as well as signs and symptoms. To further complicate matters, the antibiotics used to treat Lyme disease can deplete magnesium and other important nutrients.
After an extensive review of the literature, Marnie at online forums has proposed the following treatment for chronic Lyme patients:
MAGNESIUM PROTOCOL: - Magnesium Malate, approximately 200mg 6 times a day (every 2 hours). - Sublingual B6, approximately 12mg with each magnesium dose. - Selenium, approximately 12mcg with each magnesium dose.
ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS: - An immune booster such as "Host Defense" or beta glucans. - Multiple vitamin and mineral supplementation - A good alkalizing diet
The dosing schedule is based on Dr. Valetta's protocol. Marnie writes, "In 2001, an Italian, by the name of Valletta got a U.S. patent - # 6,248,368. It is titled: Magnesium for autoimmune. Valletta used Mg pyrophosphate and sub. B6 to cure RA, ulcerative colitis and INVASIVE CANCER in 6 months time. The turning point is 3 months (perhaps because of the AVERAGE normal cell lifespan?). It is the TIMING that is absolutely critical! Higher levels must be maintained for several hours per day, due in part to our body's constant attempt to regulate the acid-base balance (kidneys) perhaps."
Pills for the B6 and selenium will most likely need to be split, as it is difficult to buy those dosages. Products, along with a pill cutter, can be purchased for good prices at iherb.com.
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DebAZ......thanks for that article.....very good info.....
Seekhelp......I read some of my notes from Mitochondrial dysfunction......It seems that alot of doctors say that you can "frontload" your Mg to 2000-2500mg for the initial 3 months.....I would just increase your dose by 200-400mg every few days and see how you react, and if it affects your bowels....up to 2000mg or so.....
I didnt realize you could not take CoQ10 with that drug.....How about NaDH....that seems to be a good mito booster.......I would also take Acetyl L Carnitine which is very important on Mito function.....I take Branched chain amino acids also, they seem to work better than straight chain......More strength in muscles for me......I like Creatine for endurance, but it bloats me alot.......
Try more Mg.....NaDH, Acetyle L Carnitine and some Branched chain Aminos.......
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I do move whenever I can, but when you muscles tighten up so fast upon any exertion, you're truly limited. 
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