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nikki1777
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Hi! I have a 2 1/2 year old with a reoccuring circular spots (rash) on his feet.


These started a week after his 2nd b-day. He had a slight cold but got really cranky and then I noticed that he had round circular spots on his feet and a few on his palm. ( they look like someone took a red pen and drew multiple circles on him)


Anyway I took him to the Dr. & they had no idea what they were. He ended up testing positive for strep. So we assumed that the strep had caused them.


This happened twice more over the next 3 months (both times he was positive for strep).


The spots have come back two more times and he was negative for strep so where are they coming from.

Could it be lyme? And he is getting multible small em spots instead of one big one. He had blood work done a week ago, but I still don't have the results back.

I feel helpless and frustrated. Because my normal healthy 2 year old is now all of sudden getting sick constantly. Mind you he was breast feed for 15 months and eats very well and healthy. we also wash his hands constantly.


Any ideas? Thanks


I should also mention that the circular spots are not raised and do not have any symptoms and dissapear in 24-48 hours.

Thank You

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breaking this up...


quote:
Originally posted by nikki1777:

Hi! I have a 2 1/2 year old with a reoccuring circular spots (rash) on his feet. These started a week after his 2nd b-day.


He had a slight cold but got really cranky and then I noticed that he had round circular spots on his feet and a few on his palm.

( they look like someone took a red pen and drew multiple circles on him)


Anyway I took him to the Dr. & they had no idea what they were. He ended up testing positive for strep. So we assumed that the strep had caused them.


This happened twice more over the next 3 months (both times he was positive for strep). The spots have come back two more times and he was negative for strep so where are they coming from.


Could it be lyme? And he is getting multible small em spots instead of one big one.


He had blood work done a week ago, but I still don't have the results back.
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I feel helpless and frustrated. Because my normal healthy 2 year old is now all of sudden getting sick constantly.


Mind you he was breast feed for 15 months and eats very well and healthy. we also wash his hands constantly. Any ideas? Thanks

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see below for CHILDREN'S LYME SYMPTOMS LIST!


It is sometimes difficult for us to comprehend large blocks of text, and because I wanted you to get more answers, I broke this one up for you. Please do this in the future ok.  thanks


Welcome; i'm so glad you found us!! You've come to the right place for education and support!


Dr. Burrascano's most recent "Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses" @

http://www.ilads.org/burrascano_0905.html

suggests that you discuss with your doctor continuing treatment until you are symptom free for 2 months.


this link, making the most of your LLMD visit, may help you also.
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=020605#000005


please see BettyG's newbie package info on the link below; click on link at bottom of my package. Check it out as time permits for you!
@ http://tinyurl.com/58eyou


Fyi: we have over 1000 viewers daily; 200 - 400 posting/replying; so specific titles get our time/replies. non-specific ones, i sob, scroll on by!

Also, please be very specific in the subject line what you will be discussing so more people will be able to assist you.

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please go to my newbie links, copy the entire thing, and then print this off....


financial burdens compiled by melanie reber
pages 74 - 92; outstanding info there.


also in my table of contents, for FINANCIAL BURDENS, i believe there are a few more general comments there without links!! print that off too as it's newer info from members thru their own personal, tragic experiences.
thoughts and prayers headed your way..


Betty's POSTING GUIDELINES

When you post or reply, please break up your solid, continuous block text [Smile] welcome to the board! many of us have neuro lyme where we can NOT read long solid block text and be able to comprehend and read it as is.


please edit your post by CLICKING PAPER/PENCIL ICON to right of your name. that opens up BOTH subject line and body text.


now please break up your WORDY SENTENCES into one sentence paragraphs. Then hit ENTER KEY ``THREE`` after each paragraph; we need that space for comprehension.


if you are NOT a wordy person, you can do 2 or 3 total ok. do this for your entire post.

NOTE: you do NOT have to use "", just show the name of person you are responding to, and then type your comment.


IF you need to use "", PLEASE DELETE "BOLD" CODES so it's regular type text we read vs. the DARK, HARSH/PAINFUL BOLDING.

specifically, delete the first 4 characters of 2ND LINE of a ""


[QB] just delete these 4 characters, and BOLDING is GONE! my eyes will really appreciate that; it's one very bad side effect of my having lyme for 38.5 years!! xox


then go to left hand corner and mark box to receive ALL REPLIES, and click EDIT SEND


we thank you for helping us; [Wink] otherwise, we will SOB, SCROLL ON BY, since we can't read to help you. If I see posts like this, I SOB them; to hard on me.

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From ``GENEAL'' June 2007

I have been doing some research regarding Lyme and signs/symptoms in small children.

I know many of you have small children that you may be concerned about.
I believe my youngest child (4yrs old) may have gotten this disease from me.

For All Children

-dizziness
-neck pain and stiffness in almost 90%
-sore throats
-swollen lymph nodes
-excessive thirst,
-Chest pains in at least 70%, some have palpatations
-Sense of air hunger or shortness of breath, dry cough

-abdominal pain in about 50%, can mimic acute appendicitis
-sometimes vomiting, heartburn
-rashes that come and go, malar rashes, new psoriasis

-migratory arthralgias, joing pain in 50% to 100%
-myalgias in over 80%, back ache, morning stiffness, pain at rest, muscle weakness

-frequent illnessses, dark circles under their eyes
-intermittent red, hot pinnae of ears
-sleep disturbance in over 80%

-Neurological symptoms are protean and can appear AT ANY TIME during the course of infection
*hypersensitivity of skin, scalp and hair
*Hypersensitivity to noise, light, smell
*Alterations of taste
*poor balance and coordination
*Uncharacteristic behavior outbursts, mood disturbances, depression
*social withdrawal
*New onset phobias
*Oppositional behaviors
*Obsessive compulsive disorders
*Deterioration in school performance in over 90%
*Difficulty with concentration and attention in school with easily distractibility as well as "brain fog" in over 80%
*New onset of ADD

*When measured with formal neuropsychiatric testing, children demonstrate defects in auditory and visual sequential processing


Less Commonly:

*Movement disorders-spaticity, ataxia, motor or vocal tics
*Cranial neuropathies, e.g. Bell's Palsy or optic nerve neuritis
*Peripheral neuropathies-numbness and tingling, distal parathesias, subtle weakness


Pre-Schoolers and toddlers

- Modd swings, sudden emotional outbursts
- Irritabiity
- Personality changes
- Regression of motor and social skills (developmental milestones)
- Changes in play behavior, tire easily, less active

- Trouble falling asleep, frequent awakenings
- Nightmares, new phobias, recurrence of seperation anxiety
- Diaper rash unresponsive to normal treatment
- Frequent URI's, ear and throat infections, bronchitis, pneumonia


Congenital Lyme Disease

* Infants can be infected with Borrelia transpacentally in any stage of pregnancy and/or via mother's breast milk.

* The co-infections: Babesia, Bartonella, Mycoplasma and perhaps even the Ehrilichias can be transmitted transpacentally to the developing fetus.

* Gestational Borreliosis can be associated with repeated miscarriages, fetal death in utero, still births, hydrocephalus, cardiovascual anomalies,


intrauterine growth retardation, neonatal respiratory distress, and maternal toxemia of pregnancy.

* Infants either infected congenitally or from breast milk can have

- Floppiness with poor muscle tone
- Irritability
- Frequent fevers and illness early in life
- Joint sensitivities and body pain
- Skin sensitivity
- Gastro esophageal reflux
- Developmental delays
-Learning disabilities and psychiatric problems


Infants infected congentially can have

-Small windpipes (tracheomalacia)
- Eye problems (cataracts)
- Heart defects

* Infants bitten very early in life will have many of the same symptoms
- loss and decline in developmental milestones.


I found this to be a pretty inclusive list of signs/symptoms for small children, infants, and those suspected of congenital Lyme.

Sadly, my two children do exhibit many of these symptoms and both have positive bands for Lyme via Igenex diagnostic lab in PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA.

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Hi Nikki,

It's hard to say, as I am not a doctor let alone a dermatologist. But someone might want to look into it being multiple EM rashes, which sometimes occur when the disease disseminates (it's not multiple tick bites).

They might also be related to a condition called granuloma annulare, you can read about it at:
Granuloma Annulare

It seems to be associated with Lyme, at least in some cases:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18616764

If Lyme is suspected, I would avoid using cortisone cream or steroid pills, as they only work on the symptoms, while lowering the immune system and making the body more susceptible to persistent infection.

You can find more images of GA by doing a Google search of "Granuloma Annulare."

Regards,

Sharon

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onthemend
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I never had a single classic bull's eye rash. I did have several large reddish/blue circles/ovals - predominantly on the tops of my feet & on my forearms.

I've been treated very successfully for LD & don't have these anymore. BTW, I had many strange skin changes/manifestations with my illness. Little white bumps across the knuckles, a 'chicken skin' appearance, a malar (butterfly)rash on my face, black/blue/red 'scratch' marks on upper left thigh and belly.

My point is, continue to inspect your 2 year old full-body, you may notice other changes. If it is possible, you should take photos of whatever strange rashes you see, it can be very helpful to the docs throughout the dx process. You can place a coin or other object next to the rash to give an idea of the size of the mark or rash.

I'm sure you must be very concerned, but you seem like you are following all leads. Stay on it, don't give up.

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otm

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