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I just got a clinical dx and am not yet on abx.
Lately, I've had increasing frequency of very vivid and real feeling dreams in which I become full of rage. I'm yelling and being cruel to other people in these dreams.
The most recent one involved my mother, and I was screaming about all of my worst childhood experiences and blaming her. Even worse, in the dream she was defensive and full of rage back at me. The dream felt like it lasted for hours.
Other instances have involved my partner, my friends, and others people always from my inner most circle. The anger is never over a current problem.
In waking life, I raise my voice maybe once a year, and usually calm myself down in <30 second, so the behavior in my dreams is beyond extreme for me.
I have a lot of cranial symptoms. I have a lot of tingling and burning in my face, feelings of heat, vibration, and pressure in my head, and awful concentration problems and general brain fog.
Often when I wake up, lots of my symptoms are very active. I've always had an issue where my symptoms change with posture, and in particular worsen when I'm prone.
These dreams are not only emotionally upsetting, but they also scare me that I might start to act like that in my waking hours.
I feel there is a correlation between these dreams and my symptoms, so I hope they go away as I begin treatment.
Has anyone else experienced these kinds of dreams, or other changes in dream patterns that seem to correlate with symptoms? Posts: 455 | From Was in PA, then MD, now in the Midwest | Registered: Nov 2008
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HA! Unfortunately, I was full of rage in real life before diagnosis. I remember thinking, "this isn't me"..but I couldn't stop myself. Of course that stopped the sicker I got and didn't have the energy to be so confrontational anymore.
I am sure someone else has had dreams like this.
Did you start taking supplements? (I know that vivid dreams can be a side effect of some medication.)
It could be that you have some pent up hostility about being undiagnosed for so long....subconsciously...and since you don't let it out in real life..it is coming out in your dreams.
Didn't mean to psychoanalyze you!! Just a thought??
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I have noted some personality changes in my waking hours, but nothing as dramatic as these rages in my dreams.
I can't say your idea, about my anger over mis and missed diagnosis, is impossible. But the people I yell at in the dreams are the ones who've stuck by me.
I am on supplements, but the dreams started before then.
Maybe I am just a meanie? Posts: 455 | From Was in PA, then MD, now in the Midwest | Registered: Nov 2008
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I get them too! I started having these crazy rage dreams last year... I dream that I'm beating people up--or at least trying to--and I feel like I can't hit them hard enough. I'm screaming and hitting, but I can't scream loud enough or hit hard enough. This is SO far removed from how I am when I'm awake they're really disturbing.
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Wonko, yes, my dreams have become more vivid and nightmareish. BUT not due to lyme -- the vivid dreams have started since Mepron. Before Mepron I hardly ever remember dreams I had... I thought I never had any. So either the Mepron is causing the dreams or the Babesia.
Since starting Mepron, most of my dreams are scary including a people trying to shoot me with a gun, violent ones, people running after me, etc.
Yesterday I had this really weird dream where I was with a bunch of people and we were staying the night at this hotel but the hotel was not yet finished and the rooms were just wood and nothing else, no furniture. We were locked in from the outside and couldn't get out and we were going to starve/die that way.
Then the dream switched to being in the same building and some guy stole my camera out of my hand and I was running after him screaming for my camera back and he was being really rude and angry about it towards me. No matter how loud I yelled, he kept running and wouldn't give it back.
Then the last part of the dream was I was all of a sudden in a lab where doctors were checking people for skin cancer and they said they found basal cell carcinoma on my back and the dream was so real because they started digging at it and it woke me up because the 'digging' felt SO real. I think my back was having spasms in that area (my back does spasm once in a great while). If not, then the dream was just really real feeling.
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i have vivid dreams but it's not any rage related.
i dream of my beloved mother and dog. i've often dreamed that my husband died or he disappears and can't be found.....
i dream of travelling to australia just by myself and having a wonderful time.
i don't know, could be the "idd" type of thing i guess...
but my sleep is all messed up.
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Lyme Disease taught me the meaning of "night terrors", and the dreams were so intense that they would haunt me the next day.
This did get better with antibiotics, although I still sometimes get intense dreams and wonder "where did this come from" upon awakening, surprised at my brain's imagination!
But the violent frightening dreams have subsided with antibiotic treatment; in my case the violence was aimed at me, so at least I could wake up and not feel "guilty" ... just disturbed all day and dreading going back to sleep.
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My daughter had these, too. They would involve past, unresolved experiences. Some may never be resolved.
For some, it's helpful to get therapy along with the medications. This disease seems to unearth a lot of toxins, emotional and physical.
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Since lyme disease (due to it?) I have a daytime sleepiness problem, vivid nightmares where I wake up screaming. Since taking ProVigil for the daytime sleepiness problem, I have stopped having nightmares. I don't exactly understand how a drug that is a stimulant, helps my sleep, but it does. I'm not saying that this is the drug for you, just something to think about.
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When I was pulsing artemisinin, which treats babesia, I had some extremely violent nightmares with blood, etc.
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This type of dreaming, as well as insomnia, can be gotten under control with B vitamins and B 1.
I like brewer's yeast, but B-complex tablets also work.
Taking 100-300 mg of B 1 also, with some calcium and vitamin C, works to turn off these vivid dreams (or getting caught up in thinking about things to the point that you can't sleep).
Hope this helps.
Best,
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Great advice about the B vitamins - and so true.
Liver support, too, will help. While any number of things about illness can cause nightmares, lyme is a very toxic infection. That alone causes the brain to be hyperactive.
Magnesium will help tremendously, too.
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Night terrors, that is what you described! Posts: 6200 | From Brussels | Registered: Oct 2007
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I had night terrors too and it affected my next day.
I read about 5HTP causing the night terrors. So, I stopped taking it.
I have not had them since...but since my symptoms wax and wane it is difficult to know what is causing what and what helps what.
Hoping that whatever is causing yours will go away soon.
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Before I was dx, I had lots of sleep problems, couldnt fall asleep, waking in middle of night, not enough sleep, too much sleep, restless, and the nightmares...ugh...really bizarre, freakish nightmares that mostly scared me because they made no sense whatsoever.
Once I started treatment, the nightmares have faded, my dreams have returned, I sleep more soundly, and feel more rested.
I still occasionally will get a relapse of weird dreams, but typically I simply pray and go back to sleep. The biggest key is to remember that they dont mean anything as sleeping is when the brain is fixing itself.
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