This seem like a silly question I know. But I've been watching this for a week now and there is a definite pattern.
On 1/6 I started on IV again with:
Merrem 1gr****** twice daily ev. Mon. & Thurs.
Ringers Lactate 500ml***** every M, W., T, and F. (Sol. w/soduim chlo., potssuim, dext. & ??? i know, can't remember )
First doses last Mond., well by Wed. evening I started to have a horrible cough. The takes your breath away, stranlging, choking type of cough. Sorry, I just want to explain it well because as I'm reading 'cough', it does sound silly.
It is the exact cough you would hear from someone with severe ephazemia or pnuemonia.
This started on 3rd. day of the Ringers Lactate and got worse on the 4rth, horrible on the 5th. (Last wk. it was Ringers M tru Fr) Weekends off. By Sunday my cough was almost gone.
Today I did the abx. twice and the 500ml Ringers and the same cough is coming back?????
At first I thought maybe I had a chest inf. that i just didn't realize and the abx. was breaking it up. Makes sense, right?? Well when the cough almost stopped by Sunday and then came back today, I really not sure now.
Has anyone every been on Ringers and/or have developed a cough coming from your toes!!!?????
Just curious---Thank you
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On days that you get both the LR and Merrem, do you run them in together through the same line...or do you run one at a time and flush the line in between?
I am thinking of compatibility issues between the two solutions.
I would give my doctor a call and let him know what is going on. I wouldn't think that 500ml a day would give you fluid overload issues??
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Google is full of sources about incompatibility of Lactated Ringers and Rocephin- something to do w/ the Calcium in the Ringers solution, not sure if this applies to other IV antibiotics, perhaps its something to look into. Feel better
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It is odd because it does feel and sound like a fluid overload, but at 500ml 4 d a week you wouldn't think would be enough to cause that?????
Yes, I do run them seperate and flush the line in between.
I have a wonderful LLMD and trust his completely, however when he calls tomorrow I do plan to ask him about it.
Also, thank you for Googling it. I have too but haven't come across anything about Merrem.
The one think that I've thought of which may not have anything to do with it; y'all tell be what you think, okay??
I am on Flonef which is a corticosteroid due to Adrenal and Pitituary issues. I was always losing soduim, and for dysautonomia. Since the Ringers has potasuim, soduim, etc. I wonder if I'm now holding on to too much?????
But like I said, my LLMD has so much experience and is just on top of everything always that I can't imagine that this would be a problem.
I just don't know, it feels exactly like a fluid build up? I see what he says about it.
Have any of you been in RL with your abx IV's????
I have to say that every time I've been on tx, I ALWAYS end up in the ER with severe dehydration and that's definitly not a problem this time. I think it was because no one else ever notice that I can't hold onto minerals.
Any thoughts are so appreciated----Thank you!!!!!
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I started iv abx in Jan '07 and I experienced some problems with my iv clinda, it was just too hard on me, when it was in only 50 mls of solution. The issue cropped up when i changed pharmacies and the drug was in less solution. (I know there is an easier way to say that but...) It wasn't easy anyway.
My LLMD rxd lactated ringers to help and the difference was amazing. I used 500ml LR after my clinda, in a different line. That clinda treatment was 2x/d and i weaned onto orals.
I kept the picc line for a few months (5?) after the iv abx while i was on orals and continued the ringers. I felt so much better after one. I did the entire ringer (1000 ml) with a gravity feed system and it took about 4 hrs if i remember correctly. It worked a lot better if i just rested lying down.
I was pulsing and rotating some very hard oral abx and developed hydration and low bp issues so another picc and ringers - new picc May '08. I use a pump with this one, it has more valves and the gravity method took over 8hrs with me on the floor!
I am still doing this and my bp is becoming more consistent on my weeks off of abx. Of course my hydration issues are much better. 1 ringer 3x/wk was rxd. 'Poor man's detox'. Sometimes i was negligent and had 3 days or so between and felt much better again after a ringer.
Now i have discovered that my body handles the oral abx rotations much better if i do a ringer everyday during the abx week.
I have checked out all of the changes I have made or discovered helped my situation, with my docs - a must for any of this stuff!
I still use this routine and I am 10000% better! I began iv abx in Jan '07 - picc until 8/07. My second picc in May '08 for hydration/bp issues and this is still my life line.
My 2nd picc sprang a leak so I have my 3rd this month. I'm almost ready - again my opinion - to handle fluids on my own but I still need the detox for the abx rotation. My kidney(1) and liver aren't happy sometimes with all of this and the ringers make a difference, along with my other detox stuff.
Earlier, I also used iv vitamin c and glutathione, administered at a clinic, and found extreme detox relief. I may have said this before, but the glute was windex for my brain! The fog has yet to return. I no longer use the iv glute. My LLMD says it has diminishing returns, this has also been my experience. I do take oral l-glutamine.
Please ask your docs about your cough, i can't speak to that other than to say that i have 'extra' mucous(sp.) Its just part of my stuff and hopefully a sign of my immune system reacting.
I have begun iv c again, administered by another doc along with a Myer's cocktail(vits and minerials) in my picc. Its a very convienient gadget. Really a love/hate relationship with my picc. I'm very lucky to have docs who work together - life saving!
I hope this helps and you find some relief! Pony
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BEJOY----Bless your heart and thank you so much for bumping this up for me!!! I REALLY as thankful!!!
Pony, I just can't thank you enough for all of the information that you took the time to share!!! I can't type much now, but I plan to come back to add to this.
You have helped a great deal and I just wnated to say thank you!!!! I hope to get back to this asap.
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