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Hi, I'm new here, I just posted my introduction and my first question as well.
I was wondering if anyone knows about this movie that I saw the trailer of that is supposed to be about Lyme. I saw Under Our Skin and I really liked it and now I see there's a new one coming out. This might be old news to some of you, but I haven't seen anyone else talk about it.
It's called Under The Eight Ball and it's a documentary about Lyme. There is a trailer on the website. I was wondering what you all think. Has anyone seen it? Does anyone know where I can see it or buy it?
Edited to add: What do you think of this statement in the movie? "Two diagnoses took rein: Lou Gehrig's disease or ALS, incurable and fatal, and Lyme disease, an easily treatable and often durable ailment."
Also, is that statement really true about the Ft. Detrick, Maryland in 1951??? Is that TRUE? Was there such a place?
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There is a topic floating around about this movie already
The movie is interesting but I do not think it is good for the cause to start creating conspiracy theories. The general public is already skeptical enough when you tell a person what Lyme has done to you. We do not want the public to think people with Lyme think they are sick because the government dropped a germ bomb back in the 50's. It removes the credibility of the disease in many people's minds; people will think people with chronic Lyme are just "crazy people". We need to fight this with facts, research, and awareness of what it really does.
Under our skin is a great movie and tool to educate the public, under the eight ball I think will only hurt the cause.
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here's the OTHER link w/replies galore on this.
quote:Originally posted by LLYME: We do not want the public to think people with Lyme think they are sick because the government dropped a germ bomb back in the 50's. It removes the credibility of the disease in many people's minds; people will think people with chronic Lyme are just "crazy people". We need to fight this with facts...
Hi. I'd like to give you my take on this. Six years ago a woman very sick with Lyme told me Lyme was the result of a biological weapons programme. I asked her how she knew this. She said she was told by "American doctors".
My first thought was, "come on, this is ridiculous." However, a few more things came to my attention that started to make me wonder.
One of them was learning that Dr Dorothy Carey, of the Institute for Virology and Environmental Microbiology in the UK (now renamed Centre for Ecology and Hydrology and with personnel still heavily involved in Lyme), whose research on Lyme is published in medical journals, had quietly admitted to people in the Lyme movement here that all her work on tick-borne disease had been classified.
The implication being that what was published was either false, or considered insignificant enough to reveal.
I have spent over five years now researching the relation of Lyme disease to biological warfare. My conclusion is that Lyme certainly is a biowarfare issue.
This is the reason people do not get diagnosed and this is the reason that people do not get treated.
I don't agree with Adam that the "power elite are waging war on us". Much of the world's power elite resides in the US, or at least relies on the US as its economic power base. I don't believe they set out to destroy their own power base.
Also, from what I understand some of the areas worst hit in the US, such as the Hamptons, are exactly the sort of areas where the wealthiest and most powerful people live.
What I do find credible is that the US (and British and other NATO countries') military, in the drive to develop the most fearsome arsenal of bioweapons, experimented with borrelia.
It is possible that the Lyme epidemic is the result of bungled military testing, or accidental release direct from biowarfare facilities. Michael Carroll, in his book "Lab 257", documents the appalling biocontainment standards that prevailed for decades at Plum Island, which is a stone's throw from Lyme CT.
Carroll desribes holes in the roof of facilities studying the most dangerous microbes on earth, because the management tried to save money and cut corners on maintenance.
Another possibility is that Lyme was actually used against the US, for example, by the USSR during the Cold War. It may be that the US government considered it best to cover up what happened, particularly so if they felt it might induce panic in the American population, and ***especially*** if the organism in question was still of ongoing interest to the military.
In other words, a frank admission of what had happened would mean that scientists all over the world would avidly study the pathogen, and perhaps that would have conflicted with military goals at the time.
That may still be the case.
I agree with you that we need an approach based on fact.
On my website www.lyme-rage.info I have documented quite a number of facts, all of which point to the conclusion that Lyme is a biowarfare issue, and that this is what is obstructing progress and even diagnosis for most sufferers.
I have documented evidence, for example, that the Japanese war criminals of Unit 71 had a special interest in developing spirochetes as weapons during WW2. In particular they were interested in the L-form, which they found well suited to weaponisation and aerial dissemination.
These are facts, not conspiracy theories. Please do not discourage people from discussing them, reporting on them, and seeking to learn more.
Here in the UK the families of soldiers who died or became sick permanently after undergoing exposure to what they were told was the "common cold virus" during volunteer experiments recently won a class action.
As was revealed in court, their loved ones were not exposed to the cold virus. They were exposed to nerve gas. This was finally admitted by the Ministry of Defence after decades of denial.
It was only admitted because the lawyers were able to present incontrovertible factual evidence.
Had those families taken the view that they should not pursue the idea that weapons research was the cause of their loved ones' demise, the disabled victims would have ended their days in pain, with no compensation and never knowing just what had caused their decades of suffering.
And those who died from the exposure would have left families never knowing the truth.
We finally have what those families did not have, during long decades of pain and bewilderment - the internet. Let's use it to network together, research the facts and share our findings. Then hopefully we wont have to wait decades more for an end to our nightmare.
Elena Cook
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