Topic: My bartenella strain I think is from mexico
jamescase20
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I had been warned from a friend who moved here from mexico in the 1980s that he may still have what he believed to be "carrions disease" which is the 1st discovered bart stain. Only the super powerful abx Chloramphenicol kills it, or alternative tx might.
I send this info since I believe this stain has spread like wild fire and maybe the common stain around. It usually dont cause a rash...and sometimes you may get a purple node...often only 1 on right side...common in ear deeply. Many get none. I acute stage one gets extremely ill and can die...followed by slow decline thats not life threatening at that point. But I discovered common drugs DONT kill this strain hardly at all. Look this up and study this...try to get the right strain for your bart I strongly urge. Good luck all.
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jamescase20
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I should say you DO get red or pink "papululas" in acute stage... (red or pink nodes that often disapear if you live though the 3-5 week fever often up to 106 degrees)
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CD57
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what is Chloramphenicol?
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IIRC when I asked my Dr. about Chloramphenicol he said its a really effective drug, but it can cause severe aplastic anemia and that basically if you get it, it can kill you and there is nothing they can do about it. They also can't predict who will get it, and some people even get it months after stopping the drug. Sounds risky..
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Hey james. I obtained a newer version of chloramphenicol known as thiamphenicol about 6 months ago. Thiamphenicol is used commonly in china and italy for humans. And used worldwide for livestock. It is actually stronger than chlor and is not associated with the severe aplastic anemia that chloramphanicol is. I haven't taken it yet but i got it from edrug. DON'T TAKE CHLORAMPHENICOL. email me if you want.
Gentimicin DOES seem to kill this strain, and it DOES seem common, it appears my mom got it last yr from a tick. And she cannot rid it via normal meds, the floroqualioines do help but dont seem to rid it, and I have a scope, I SEE whats happening. I dont think they can rid it in severe long term infection, or perhaps they could, but boy, I dont have that much time to wait around frankly. I just think you all should know...and use it for information and to watch for new developments.
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jamescase20
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I truely do believe this is the "unknown" strain thats spreading amoung us and it would help explain why conv expected meds dont work, or not very well. I personally have experienced that conv meds help but cannot save me. I AM experimenting on vet drugs on myself right now, 1 of which is appearing to kill bart, lyme and possibly others better then anything I have tested...I have a scope, I watch my bloods, daily, even more. I will post my finding if it continues to pan out in good time.
Maybe this explains why bart seems almost impossible to kill in many...could this be the strain? I think it may be.
Remember theres a new strain they found thats VERY close to carrions disease and was also very hard to rid...this might be it...but honestly, I believe this is just a strong carrions disease, this one was deadly in 1800s and remains that way, in acute stage...if you have had this more then 5 weeks its NOT deadly, but can be very disabiling.
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jamescase20
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For sure, this strain of bart is for the most part resistent to all tetracyclines...including minocin and doxy, yes, sorry folks.
So if the tetras didnt work...I think you should consider this.
Remember, these points, this bart CAN LIVE in water or food for 7 days they discovered, it CAN harbor in pets (but not cause disease), usually causes severe flu like illness in acute stage followed by silent infection, often a side effect is gas, exp if your killing them...either with meds or other alter.
Also remember that immigrents are comming from mexico by the millions yearly and do not get testing.
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jamescase20
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BTW, the boy in the 1980s who moved from mexico to my house claimed theres two strains of carrions disease (bart 1) 1 that is killed by tetras (including the advanced ones) and the other that only Chloramphenicol, at that time thats what was known to kill. After he moved out, about 3 months later, while my house was very infected with fleas from many cats that where loose, and 2 dogs, me and my sleeping cat BOTH had a summer "flu" where we both appeared near death and we consoled each other to health which never seemed to fully return to 100 percent.
I do again, believe the tetras and the quiliones hit this semi-resistent strain...but cannot rid severe infections I believe, from bitter experiences.
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jamescase20
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Olive leaf appears to kill (or at least causes herx like pain)...and I know others claimed this from clinical experiences. My scope finding was unable to make a claim on olive leaf either way, but this is common (from my exp) with natural things, they work slower. The persons on here that claimed relief from olive L used high doses, the dose I do not know.
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jamescase20
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whats sad? Really my recommendation? Olive leaf? YES, it is, but I feel more powerful drugs may be needed in severe or long term infections.
But, high dose olive leaf appears very effective, perhaps solely. But it may take a long time of suffering to yield cure. ( in my opinion)
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Who cares if olive leaf IS the recommendation anyways? I sure don't.
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jamescase20
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I tested it..its better then the cipros from what I see...plants I feel, when we finally figure them out will yield better then any manmade drug due to the large amount of compounds in plants. Besides, how does the plant prevent infection? I ask that.
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James, are you talking about Olive Leaf? What type of Olive Leaf are you taking?
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jamescase20
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The topic is getting way off message....but...yes I was talking also about how olive leaf appears to cause serious signs of hard bart herxing, no question. I did check it against reality in the scope, but I was unwilling to allow time to pass so...my test was not fully valid. I also learned now that most plants act slowly.
I believe plants posses compounds febel humans dont even know exist...and thats the key to cure I believe perhaps with both manmade....AND natural.
Its known that olive leaf is a natural ABX.
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