Cure unknowns title should wake up anyone still suffering after Tx. My microscope that can see the invaders woke me up for sure. But these are not my points. Below is my point for this post.
PLANTS and mother nature is too smart for us to understand. Why weve discovered plant compounds that kill, or act as Efflux pump inhibitors (preventing any resistence) in super accurate studies. These facts are out there...not on lyme exactly in many studies, but these tiny bugs are related to each other. WAKE up, ABX are purged by a bug sump pump shall we call, which is called a efflux pump, so the ABX get purged, no wonder DR B and others found they have to use huge rather unheard of doses to kill these bugs...BUT, the magic is add certain plants and perhaps we can shut down these pumps then suddenly that tetra works even at tiny doses, (remember Cowden?) Peace my friends.
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BTW, I feel its very interesting indeed to note that the pennicillin classes, and the "ceftins" of the world are unable to be purged.
Why is then this not a full cure?
This class is a EXTRACELLULAR drug and not able to get into cells...leaving part of the infection safe.
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Can you be more specific about which plants or direct to some further info, James?
This is kind of over my head but I would like to find out more since I'm on the herbal route.
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James, whenever you get a chance, can you list a couple natural substances you have found to be efflux pump inhibitors? I know black pepper is one, right?
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Correct, I did find a study that used a electron scope and found efflux pumps, I dont have that study on hand...but black pepper was a common staple that was one. I know for fact black pepper under the tougue takes out my migraines.
Try pubmed.org....search this....CURE is unknown, get to work finding one man. You gotta work man.
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Keep thinking and posting, James...
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I'm confused.
What are you suggesting one should take along with antibiotics for Bart and Lyme....escpecially bart, and how does it function?
So many things have been suggested my head spins and cannot retain them all.
I agree there has to be a better way by adding something to increase affect with half the dose....but what for what and how does it work???
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I read a study not to long ago, and it was posted here that Green Tea substantially boosts the effect of antibiotics.
It got a ho-hum amount of response for something I thought was fairly important.
This is likely from a different mechanism, but by combining Antibiotics with a couple of enhancers may push effectiveness to a new level.
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I think berberine is an efflux pump inhibitor.
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Several practitioners that I have spoken with are beginning to use plant stem cells and report good results with many illnesses.
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Yes, sorry, the above posts are all true but I would like to try and simplify this.
If your taking a tetra or floroquiloune for bart right now try chewing up several black pepper corns and place them under tounge...if you can stomach them swollew them after 20 mins or so or spit and rinse out...this should reduce or take out a bart related herx headache and its a proven EPI in a lab study...
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This is some great info James, can you recomend something in particular to help with antibiotics in the penicillian family?
Thanks a bunch for all your research and info!
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no, but in testing it appeared that penicclin and the entire derivative group of ceftins including rocheprens...there all related...these abx are unable to be purged by bacteria and so believe it or not....even today remain front line in the fight against bacteria.
Bugs cannot seem to develop a efflux pump to purge these penns.
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The prob with this abx penn (and ceftins) is they are only extra cellular and so one would have to suffer with inter cell infection untreated. But, it has been done....one treats extracellular until they finally rid the infections, Dr B apperently did just this....however, I think today with our newfound knowledge...it seems stupid and very time consuming.
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Super trucker (my pixiebob cat) says hi, and he didnt give me bart.
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What about flagyl, James?
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I noticed I can feel fairly good on good old Pennicillin VK - 3,000 mgs a day as long as I keep detoxing at bedtime. I mean, I feel much better then taking nothing at all...
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