seekhelp
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I am getting a reading done tomorrow for free. My doc mentioned someone who lives right by my home who is excellent in his opinion. I know not everything shows up on a blood smear, but I'm pretty thrilled to have a human review it and not a machine. He does a lot of staining and other things.
Maybe my health picture will be a bit clearer after tomorrow? It could be a waste of time, but I'm totally desparate. No local docs care about actually looking at my blood with a phase contrast microscope. For some reason, they think it's idiocracy.
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One good thing this can see is how much debris may be hanging around. Enzymes can help clean up that picture.
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Speaking of pictures, see if you can get one of your blood smear!
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OK, the person is going to magnify it on a huge screen for me.
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I'm jealous! Let us know how it goes. It is very exciting.....hoping that it provide you with something useful.
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cool......I'd like to see the images too....
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Jealous too. Would love the opportunity to just see what might show up. Good luck!
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Confidentiality issus perhaps Lymestop?
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seekhelp
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Well, Dr. Barrett debunks my hopes and dreams again. He's good at this.
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Dr. Barrett really should sign up at Lymenet Europe. A perfect fit. He could be the grandmaster.
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Well, I'm back from my adventure looking at my blood. Interesting experience to say the least.
I couldn't get any pictures, but he walked me through it on a screen. He couldn't find one bit of evidence of bacterial/parasitic infection. His darkfield microscope went well over 5,000x magnification and he's done this 25+ years.
He did note some major concerns. He doesn't think bacterial infections are my issue. He said my red blood cells are completely clumped severely. He showed a picture of regular blood cella and then mine. Scary. He said that's the cause of my all issues (fatigue, muscle tightness, head pressure, etc.). Hmmmm..
He also said I had very few white blood cells show up on the sample. He said my immune system is low. Some markings mentioned liver damage and my blood had tons of 'scratches' in it which he said is a sign of several possibilities: toxicity, colon inflammation, diet issues, antibiotic overuse, and 3-4 others.
He noticed a few heavy metals in the bloos, but very low levels.
Showed me bad cholesterol in my cells (too much). Said to lose weight and exercise more. I told him about my exercise intolerance, inability to sweat, etc. He recommended saunas, hot tubs.
He said the hypercoagulation issues must be fixed to get better. Note, he's not a doctor, but seemed to be quite knowledgeable. Not sure what to make of all of it.
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Lymeric, who are you? I'm confused how your post relates to my post. Don't say 'my research' without even disclosing who you are, what research it is, etc. A bit vague?
The article mentioned chiropractors to some degree, but it surely wasn't the root of the argument.
I'm tired, but not out of it. lol. I didn't even talk about Dr. Steere and others of the IDSA. Why are you posting on this thread about this?
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seekhelp
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Quite interesting..another Quackwatch article. The info sure sounds familar.
I am not even going to dignify your post with a response.
Seekhelp,
Look at this appointment as a learning experience. You did get one valuable clue to your illness without spending $400 plus for the bloodwork to prove it.
Hypercoagulation testing with HEMEX lab starts at about $400. Now, the question is why is your blood clumping together? The obvious answer is infection. The ISAC (Immune System Activation of Clotting) panel from HEMEX would most likely prove that infection is the root cause of your hypercoagulation. If the hypercoagulation is severe even a fibrinogen test from Quest or LabCorp would be abnormal although this test is not nearly as specific.
As for darkfield microscopy, hubby had this done once. The practitioner said his blood was just about the healthiest she had ever seen. Hubby was far from well at the time. But that is just one experience.
The other point I got from your post was the bit about 5000x magnification. It is my understanding that high resolution microscopes use at least 10,000x magnification.
I personally don't believe that one can detect heavy metals from a bloodslide.
This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.
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seek,
bea is right about the hypercoagulation. very common in TBI's.
Was it at least fun? Take the results with a grain of salt.
As for Lymeric, take a hike.
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seekhelp
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Bea,
My fibrongen through Quest was 381...normal was 140-420. It's normal, but surely not good. I have no doubt some infection is the cause. The question is which one.
Feelfit, it was fun, but a bit farfetched. I think the person sells supplements, but he didn't try with me. I did take it with a grain of salt. No one can detect all that with a blood smear!
The real issue is what can I do to help myself? I'd rather not pay $400+ for another test. Does reducing hypercoagulation help many with their symptoms? I mentioned this to my former LLMD, but he just didn't care about the topic unfortunately.
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I don't know. I'm not sure how I can agree these IDSA docs care about me as I saw one a year ago who assured me I have no illneses and NEVER tested one thing or looked at one result I brought. Downright scary.
I'm not an expert, but from what I've read, ignorance plays a huge part in this issue from some docs. I'm not saying they are stupid, but they turn a blind eye in the name of science to those who suffer horribly. Unacceptable.
Helping some and possibly killing others is not right. Every life is precious.
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Lymeric of course you found an attitude of IDSA hate. They are the ones that made the guidelines that prevent us from getting the treatment we need to get well.
You are not going to find any love for them around here!
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I've noticed that there's a group from the UK who argues vehemently that they see spirochetes in red blood cells, and it seems that one of the techniques they use is to age the blood for some number of hours (8 hours?) which supposedly makes spirochetes emerge from some of the cells.
I had signs of hypercoagulation earlier this fall (but never did the HEMEX panel because my LLMD thinks it isn't very accurate). My signs were having unusual coagulation when I had blood drawn, and some clinical symptoms. I took systemic enzymes very religiously after that, some of the clinical symptoms resolved, and when I later got some blood microscopy done by my LLMD (to look for abnormal blood cells and coagulation) there wasn't too much wrong coagulation-wise (we were at 400x I think). I take it as a possible sign that enzymes are useful for this as advertised.
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