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born2net
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Hello,

I know everyone is different, but I was wondering in your expirience, how long before you feel any difference after taking the ABX.

I hear of many people here who are taking antibiotics for a long long time ... But I assume the ABX do help them in one way or another or they will not continue and take the ABX for months and months or even years without having any real sign that the ABX are helping ( even just a bit ) and they do have Lyme.

Regards,

Sean.

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Ringing ears
Headaches
Stiff Neck
Upper/Lower muscle pain
Crtsyal like noise from neck/back
heart palpitation
Cracking joints

Quest Diag EIA AB Screen: 0.25 negative
Quest Diag IGG,IGM,WESTBLOT: negative
Igenex Bands 23-25+ & 41 indeterm

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TerryK
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It depends on what infections you have, how long you've had them, what medication you are taking, your ability to detox etc. etc...

Could you provide more details please?

Have you asked your LLMD about what to expect?

Terry

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Judy G.
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In my case (taking abx for 4 months now) I have noticed improvement in the neuro symptoms (dizziness and word blocking) Those are gone completely. Energy has been better at times also.

The problem is other Lyme symptoms are subtle for me and also come and go. So improvement is sometimes hard to notice.

I have been keeping track with Burrascano's symptom list and I charted 30 symptoms to begin with - this week I only counted 13 for all last week.

ANother problem is that we go through periods of Lyme flair ups and herx reactions when things get worse even though we are getting better over all.

I just trust that over time with the help and expertise of my doctor who has treated others, that I will indeed recover.

I think you have to have a doctor that you trust. Because sometimes it feels like things are REALLY worse.

[confused]

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born2net
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Thanks Judy and Tery.

My symptoms starting from worst:
1. Ringing ears
2. Headaches
3. Stiff Neck
4. Upper/Lower muscle pain
5. Crtsyal breaking nose from neck/back
6. heart palpitation
7. Cracking joints

Blood results:
Quest Diag EIA AB Screen: 0.25 negative
Quest Diag IGG,IGM,WESTERB BLOT: negative
Igenex Bands 23-25 POSITIVE & 41 indeterminant

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Ringing ears
Headaches
Stiff Neck
Upper/Lower muscle pain
Crtsyal like noise from neck/back
heart palpitation
Cracking joints

Quest Diag EIA AB Screen: 0.25 negative
Quest Diag IGG,IGM,WESTBLOT: negative
Igenex Bands 23-25+ & 41 indeterm

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seekhelp
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Born2net, we are in the EXACT same boat. Same test results. Great question. That 23-25 band from IGenix is all that keeps me wondering.

Did you get a CD-57 from LabCorp done?

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I have a microscope and learned to do live blood microscopy and abx BARELY work. Sorry to report that.

However they DO work. I feel alter. tx is absolutly NEEDED in severe infections...like mine! Ozone without question forced bugs out of my red cells and once in plasma they die from the abx. My impressions of effective abx are as follows...BTW, my LLMD agrees with me.

Frontline for lyme drugs...pennicillins and the entire ceftin class...including reocheprn etc...my doctor prefers ceftin as its more gram negative then the others...I discovered something many miss.. AUGMENTIN!!!!! USED even in "lower" doses when combined with ceftin really killed...the augmentin appears to allow kill of CWD lyme as well, where ceftin alone didnt work. And ceftin can be used with a tetra class drug but some llmds may disagree and tetras and pennicllins fight each other...but the ceftins do not appear subject to this fact.

My llmds impressions are that the tetras are his first choice for these diseases, and I somewhat agree...btw he let me bring my scope in with my visits and he validated I knew what I was doing. He likes doxy...I like minocin...and theres good points about both doxy and mino...doxy seems more effective for reasons unknown Dr B seems to imply in his latest printout. And minocin as its name implies is tiny in size or "mini" get it..."min-i-ocin"...and so minocin can get into the tinist capilaries in the brain where doxy cannot.

And so...if I was on covn meds right now...I would do something like Ceftin 3-6g a day, along with a lower dose of augmentin, and also use either doxy or minocin with that and rotate the doxy and mino...and give vacation breaks from all of them to allow recovery and conversion back to active lyme.

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Right now I am on 300mg of Doxy, Plaquenil and Trentil. I am on it for only 2 weeks ( I know its a short time ) but seems things are a somewhat worst. And the worst thing is that becuase my tests are not very clear... I keep on thinking do I have Lyme ? Do I have something else ? Am I taking ABX for the right bug ?

I guess no one has the answer and the only thing I can do is keep on taking the above drugs for 3 months and see how I feel than.

What do you guys think ?

Regards,

Sean.

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Ringing ears
Headaches
Stiff Neck
Upper/Lower muscle pain
Crtsyal like noise from neck/back
heart palpitation
Cracking joints

Quest Diag EIA AB Screen: 0.25 negative
Quest Diag IGG,IGM,WESTBLOT: negative
Igenex Bands 23-25+ & 41 indeterm

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born2net
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I am not sure if Dr. H did the CD-57.
I will ask on Tue when I call him.

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Ringing ears
Headaches
Stiff Neck
Upper/Lower muscle pain
Crtsyal like noise from neck/back
heart palpitation
Cracking joints

Quest Diag EIA AB Screen: 0.25 negative
Quest Diag IGG,IGM,WESTBLOT: negative
Igenex Bands 23-25+ & 41 indeterm

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DaveNJ
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Sean,

not enough time. First minor herx was three weeks in First major herx 2 months...everone is differet though.

Dave

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