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the doc I'm seeing does not believe in the cyst form. where can I find proof that this exists?
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Do you consider the Dr. Burrascano lyme treatment guidelines proof? He discusses the cyst form of lyme on pages 12 and 15 of the 2005 version:
If your doc does not believe in the Burrascano lyme treatment guidelines, that should give you pause.
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Taz, Just curious, is your doctor an ILADS doctor? Seems unlikely. If he is not, he could discuss this with ILADS members. www.ilads.org
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I'd also like to add onto the idea stated by Lyme ED. See the dictionary definitions of "cyst." One of them is:
"a spherical, usually thick membrane, resistant to freezing, drying, etc., with which certain organisms are surrounded when in a resting stage."
Cyst forms of organisms are well known in medicine. Maybe you misunderstood your doc. I hope so.
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WOW, here you go! These Norwegian researchers have it right here on www.pubmed.com:
Type in Tinizole AND borrelia cysts. Tinizole was always much easier for me to tolerate than flagyl, as well.
An in vitro study of the susceptibility of mobile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to tinidazole. Brorson O, Brorson SH.
Department of Microbiology, Vestfold Sentralsykehus, T�nsberg, Norway.
The susceptibility of mobile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to tinidazole (TZ) was
examined. The minimal bactericidal concentration (MBC) of TZ against the mobile spirochetes was >128 microg/ml at 37 degrees C in micro-oxic
atmosphere when incubated for 14 days. TZ significantly reduced the conversion of mobile spirochetes to cystic forms during incubation.
The MBC for older (10-months-old) cysts at 37 degrees C in a micro-oxic atmosphere was >0.5 microg/ml, but >0.125 microg/ml for young
(1-day-old) cysts. Acridine orange staining, dark-field microscopy and transmission electron microscopy revealed that, when the concentration of TZ was > or = MBC, the contents of the cysts
were partly degraded, core structures did not develop inside the young cysts, and the amount of RNA in these cysts decreased significantly. When
cysts were exposed to TZ, both the spirochetal structures and core structures inside the cysts dissolved, and the production of blebs was
significantly reduced. These observations may be valuable in the treatment of resistant infections caused by B. burgdorferi, and suggest that a
combination of TZ and a macrolide antibiotic could eradicate both cystic and mobile forms of B. burgdorferi.
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Please show your doc the following position paper. I think he will find it very interesting.
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