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I am making the claim that the parasite infecting my body, is a human disease. After making the connection between intestinal species and prostate species, it is now evident the intracellular microbe is well suited for survival in human host. Therefore, many other people can have this disease, and no test modality exists for it. Since the parasite has many different stages to survive in host, and pass infection to outside environment, I believe it should be of interest in chronic disease. The stains could be innumerable. This is an apicomplexan, but much different than toxoplasma gondii.
There are 2 main signs to look for. Chronic dehydration from increased mast cell activity, and round cysts in macrophages. The macrophages would have to be extracted from infected area. This may require biopsy, and astute micro analysis. The cysts can easily be mistaken for normal granules--they were with me. microw
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Ditto! How did you find it and what is it called please? How do you know it's pathogenic and/or causing your symptoms?
Thanks for your insights.
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Can you determine whether or not it's susceptible to any antimicrobials?
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So are you saying chronic dehydration is an outward symptom in the host? (I seem to have an inquenchable thirst, so I drink tons of water, and also urinate a lot....much more than the average person) Or do you mean dehydration more on a cellular level?
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So then what do you do to get rid of it??? I just did a round of humaworm without much result (visible to the naked eye anyways) but I am positive I have some sort of parasite in my face. Particularly in my eyes and sinus. Because I can FEEL it! I have chronic dehydration, no matter how much I drink.
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Dawnee,
What are your symptoms?
I think my son has a parasite too, based on his eyes and sinuses.
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN-
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Is this the same as the "mystery bug" Fry is finding attached to red blood cells or something different?
I have chronic female prostatitis. Some people are telling me the chronic infection is Lyme. Some people are telling me the chronic infection is the "mystery bug" or BLO.
I saw a naturopath recently who told me I was very dehydrated and she asked if had been tested for parasites because my lymphatic system wasn't working.
So could my chronic infection be due to this parasite?
Now I am confused.
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microw, perhaps you could be more specific about the parasite. The phylum apicomplexa is more 4500 species. Is there enough of a 18S sequence to be able to confirm that it is indeed novel?
You mentioned that the parasite can pass infection to the outside - are you specifically saying that it forms spores, or is there another vector for transmission?
Could you share the proposed taxonomy for the organism?
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2 roads.. I keep getting a feeling under my lower eyelid of something squirming around. Sometimes I am sure something is going to crawl right across my eyeball and I run to the mirror and see nothing. I get that same feeling in my nose/sinus area between the inside corner of my eye and the curve of my nostril and it is maddening! I am absolutely positive it is a parasite. I just don't know how to get rid of it. I have done one round of humaworm and lots of nasal rinses. I'm not sure what else to try. I'm sure there is nothing I can do to find out.
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That's so weird Dawnee.
He says he has marbles, worms in his eyes. I ask where and he points to under his lids.
He pulls his lower lids down frequently because of it.
Do you see the worms or just feel them?
Could this be Babs, I was banking that it was?
Does Mepron take away various forms of parasites?
Oh my heavens...I just realised something. You are from Texas.
That's where we got our Beagle from....a breeder down there.
He came up with parasites. Our vet said he did not need treatment as she felt the breeder had dealt with it. * months later we found a worm.
The pup was never outside due to my fear of ticks.
My sons problem started after we got the dog.
What to do????
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Hi Everyone. Thank you for your questions, and comments.
I would first like to make clear, this "parasite" has multiple stages, with multiple sizes and shapes.
The spores could be submicroscopic, the cysts are 1 micron, the sporozoites are 1-3 microns, and the primary oocysts are 3 microns.
I have tested various stages of the parasite with my own cells.
There are a range of immunogenic responses, and indications of diversity of antigens in various stages. The oocysts have highest antigenic response in both haemotopoietic and clonal cell-lines.
There are immediate responses to sporozoite and sporozoite derived sub-units [lack of terms for them, I call them 'zoites]. It's all very complicated, and there will be more tests to come, but the point is the parasite is ubiquitous in nature.
tcw, I wish I could be more specific about the organism. I just know, it has so many stages, including oocysts.
It will may take some extensive DNA sequencing to prove novel qualities. That will cost.
As for passing into environment, that is how I obtained oocysts. It was a lottery win. The odds of me finding them were very slim. It might happen once, or twice a year. I checked at the right time. They were contained in mucus, from diarrhea.
It should pass through semen as well, in cyst-form. This would make it sexually transferable and therefore an STD. I have not proven this yet, but I can now do experiments to check that through cell cultures [now that I can visually identify components]. Innate transfer would result in life-time infection of host.
As for vectors, that is another area to test. If there are submicroscopic agents in blood, there could be transfer through certain blood-sucking vectors. In the case of animals, the oocysts can easily transfer through contaminated vegetation. This is how humans can contract them as well. Plus eating the contaminated meat of animals. The oocysts can survive harsh chemicals and heat.
I have not done any experiments to see if the parasite can survive in the gut of insect--like tick. Best thing at this point, is to have genetic characterizations performed. After this is done, probes and antibody markers can be generated for diagnostics.
I am keeping record of my work through my blog. You can get that through my website at www.ummicrographics.com
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2roads.. well I have been in Texas for 4 years now. 2 years prior to that. But grew up in middle Tennessee. It is very common for pets to have parasites. Actually, very common for humans to have parasites for that matter. But I doubt your son got anything from the beagle, personally.
When I told my LLMD about feeling like there was something crawling in my eyelids around my eyeball his first reaction was Morgellons. But we have not broached the topic again since. I think I will next month.
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Dawnee and 2roads, have you been to see an ophthalmologist about it? I've been feeling like I had something in my eyes. It kept getting worse, so I went to see my ophthalmologist and he said that I have a bad "infection" (tell me something I didn't know!) and prescribed Zymar (gatifloxacin) eye drops for me and my eyes are much better now.
Dawnee, I've also had problems around the same area of the nose. In fact about 2 months ago a large "pimple" appeared there which I couldn't get rid of. My LLMD told me to apply a hot wet towel to it make it come to a head, but when I did that, I herxed! I get neuro herxes (eyes start drooping and brain starts feeling pressured/fatigued). I started applying Venex ointment to it and herxed very strongly. Apparently not everyone herxes as quickly or noticeably as I do, according to my LLMD.
Since then, I've treated it with Venex ointment and Flagyl cream, rubbing them on both the outside and the inside of the nose, and now it's almost gone. So I think it was essentially caused by Bb.
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Will you be able to determine whether or not it's neurotropic?
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Microw,
I have posted this website before on Lymenet. Just wondering if you have seen anything that looks like these?
I am on the salt/c protocol and have actually had small parasites/worms come out of my eyes, nose and mouth.
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Hi glm111 I am familiar with these parasites. Some of them are worm related, I doubt any of them are related to spirochetes. I have seen similar structures from scalp samples. I think some are "parasitiods" derived from fungi. The 'nest' looking ones could be waste product from larger worm type parasites. There are so many parasites out there, it is hard to keep track.
The best way to id things these days is mitochondrial DNA testing.
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microw,
How do we know if we have this parasite?
And what do you believe will be the best treatment for it?
Thank you.
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Psano,
My son has seen several opthamologists.
None say they see any infection, at best, a greater number of papillae under the eyelid they say indicating allergy.
What did your eyes look like?
thanks, 2roads
Dawnee, i think morgellons may be lyme.
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The parasite I have specifically, has not been medically defined insofar as I can tell at this point.
It may have been characterized by veterinary science, but I have not run across anything of human importance yet.
There will be no tests, for this species, but testing for toxoplasmosis might produce a hit. That is, if they share similar antigen motifs.
As for vision, I can say for sure, the disease condition will contribute to sensitivity to light, and eye floaters. This could be due to toxins created from mast cells and other chemicals generated by cell defenses. This is based on my own symptomology.
Once I have this parasite genetically recorded and digitalized, there will exist a barcode for it in the genebank. Diagnostic markers can be ordered for it specifically. I will be doing this, and or generating them myself. Microw
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Dec '07 at my yearly eye doc exam, he asked if I had been having problems with my left eye. I said no and he proceded to pull out a unknown red thing.
This was not a piece of thread he told me. It was not laying on my eye ball, but embedded and he had to numb my eye and actuall pull out and remove this unknown thing. He est. it measured 1-2 cm.
I was not thinking at the time or I would of told him I wanted this red thing sent to a lab for analayze. He tossed it in the garbage and had told me he rarely sees these things.
When questioned several days later, he could only say that it wasn't thread, it was red, it was squiggly looking, yes embedded and the size being 1-2 centimeter (?).
If it ever happens again, I will insist it be sent to lab. He was just amazed that it didn't bother me. I'm used to the little squiggly feelings all over my body.
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I have heard of this on other forums. There are many parasites that we can pick up from animals. If you live on a farm, or have many pets, it is best to engage in deworming on a regular basis. Microw
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So how does one treat the vision issues resulting from this organism?
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Saw an opthamologist last week and everything looks good.. just a blocked gland in my eyelid (upper) and a floater. I didn't tell her about the wriggling feeling in my eye and sinus... I get enough odd looks these days when I open my mouth. I just wonder what I can do to find out if I actually do have some sort of parasite in there?
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and scroll down to juvenile nematamorphs and look at the one that looks like a red thread.
Maybe you could show it to your eye doctor and see if it resembles what he saw.
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microw,
What are you using to treat this? Or what do you think treats it?
Alinia? Deworming herbs?
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2 roads, My left eye apparently had a lot of pus. You may not need it, but the Zymar eye drops are really strong. I've been getting really strong herxes from it, and can even feel the effect in my nose and throat.
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Salt/c is what worked for me in getting the parasitic worms to leave. They can't stand the salt. (sea salt)
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