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I've taken grape seed extract for a few years and have had no problems. I take it for the antioxidant effects. I've never read anything negative about taking it.
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I too have been taking Grape Fruit extract as well as Olive Leaf.
I know that many with lyme take one or the other or both.
I have had no negative reactions and know it is good for so many of the issues those of us with lyme and co's deal with.
Cathy
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I thought grape seed was different from grapefruit seed extract?? Are people confusing these?
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You have to be careful with GRAPEFRUIT seed extract as it has effects on different medications. I don't take it for this reason. I do take GRAPE seed extract.
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It basically states that the antimicrobial effect of GSE is due to a chemical used in the processing of it, and not the GSE itself. The chemical is "Benzethonium Chloride" and is bad for you in high enough concentration. They thought it was misleading that GSE manufacturers claimed their product was a "natural antimicrobial" because the disinfectant properties weren't inherent in the GSE itself, but the chemical used in processing it.
GSE "grapefruit seed extract" is different than "grape seed extract"
Has anyone else read about this? I still have my bottle of citrucidal, but have been ambivilant about using it...
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Mine is NutriBiotic and says "...contains CITRICIDAL, a natural quatenery compound synthesized from the seed and pulp of organically grown grapefruit.
The grapefruit bioflavonoids (polyphenolics) are converted into an extremely potent compound that has been proven highly effective in numerous applications."
It says - do not take full strength - 5-15 drops in juice or water.
ALSO Reads: Why would I want to use the GSE� Liquid Concentrate?
- As a natural, non-toxic compound our GSE (Grapefruit Seed Extract) Liquid Concentrate has many uses.
Internally, the concentrate has been used as a supportive treatment for a wide variety of ailments, including Candida infections, sore throats, intestinal upset, etc.
How can the product be non-toxic if it is so potent? - Extensive testing done at independent laboratories and universities around the world has proven the concentrate to be safe for human consumption.
It is effective against pathogens because it belongs to a family of compounds known as quaternary compounds.
This family is best known for benzylkonium chloride and benzylthonium chloride as well as the infamous Quaternium group, a very toxic antimicrobial preservative used in the cosmetics industry.
While Grapefruit Seed Extract is molecularly similar to these compounds, there are some profound differences in structure and function. Studies done to date indicate that there is little danger in either short-term or long-term internal use.
What is the pH of this product? - The concentrate has a pH of about 2.2, which is very acidic. This is why we recommend you dilute it before use. We do not know if the product becomes alkaline when ingested the way orange juice and other citrus foods do.
Is this product safe for use with children? - Yes. The extract is frequently used in pediatric medicine in applications such as diaper rash, ear infections, abrasions, etc. Common sense will indicate using a very dilute solution on an infant.
What about using it for my pets? - Since the concentrate is safe for consumption, it is well suited for animal uses. The extract can be added to the animal's water or food.
What about the "grapefruit juice effect"? - There is a phenomenon known as the "grapefruit juice effect".
Two components found in grapefruit juice, naringin and naringenin*, inhibit production of an enzyme in the intestinal tract, thus increasing the rate of absorption for certain classes of drugs (including some antihistamines, birth control pills, anti-epilepsy medications, and some antibiotics).
In some instances, as in low dose birth control pills and some uses of antibiotics, this could be a good thing because the net result is "more efficacy, less drug".
In other cases, especially for anti-seizure medicines, blood levels have to be monitored and maintained very carefully.
The customer would be well-advised to check with his doctor or pharmacist to see if there is any interaction between his medication and the naringin and naringenin*. -end-
I worked up to 15 drops over 4-5 days and continued for a week at 15 drops diluted. I don't want to take something bad for me. I did check with my LLMD 1st to make sure it would not interact with anything.
Not sure about the article noted above from 2001 -looks like a (published)research paper - why use chloroform? -p
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Yikes, I'm the one that started the confusion here. Guess that's what you get when you ask a question where a bunch of "lyme brains" hang out. :-)
I'm sorry, no, I have never had Grape seed extract. Only the Grapefruit seed extract.
I guess I need to go out and look up the differences in the two. Thank you for drawing the difference to my attention.
Cathy
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Good Morning,
Thanks for all the info on Grapefruit extract.
I think its great that I started this post with Grape seed extract and it ended up giving everyone a lot of infomation on Grapefruit!!!
That's okay...
Steve
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