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I've done Milk Thistle but would also like to know other ways I can do this. Are buying the liver detox teas a good option?
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mojo
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There are Detox Herbal Teas. Some people find doing the Liver/Gallbladder flush very helpful. I've done a couple - they arent' fun but are very effective.
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Can you tell how to do the Liver/Gallbalder flush? I'm also very sensitive and don't know if my body could handle some thing harsh.?
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I don't like the idea of a cleanse or a flush - or the action or event of a "detox" but, rather, on-going support so the liver will do its own best work with its own rhythm.
To speed it up can be dangerous but to offer nutrients so it can work better is the idea. The liver does so much more than just detox - so a full support is the idea.
Still, for our purposes, especially when taking meds that can damage the liver, protection is vital. Milk thistle is one of the best protecters, but there are many others.
I think some of the detox teas can be too harsh but, sometimes, they just use the name and it is more of a support. Some detox teas may be far too weak and not contain enough of a vital ingredient.
It is better to go with standardized capsules or other methods in which exact measure - consistent each day - is achieved.
Some teas, too, are not of good quality. IF you take teas, be sure to get organic and take as medicine - mindful of frequency.
It's important to read as much as you can about the liver and how it works. Ultimately, it is best to see a LL ND (naturopathic doctor) or a L. Ac. (licensed acupuncturist) as they can determine what YOUR liver needs and put a balanced formula together. Acupuncture is also very helpful for the liver.
Diet is first big help - avoiding bad fats and processed foods and eating enough veggies for the body to have enough bulk to detox naturally.
Here are some articles with ideas beyond milk thistle:
. . . Individual variations in our cytochrome P40 enzymes help to demystify why there are so many variations in how we respond to drugs and herbs. . . .
- Full chapter at link above.
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There are hundreds of herbs that can help liver function. A couple dozen are discussed here:
The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed.
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Protection
Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.
These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy.
Deficiency
The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .
Heat and Inflammation
To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .
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Pain
If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .
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NAC -------
If milk thistle is not on your plan, NAC might be considered:
This, from a protocol for Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) which is a similar chronic stealth infection. This treatment protocol is also similar to that of chronic lyme.
This is what one of the protocol authors says about the power of NAC to help protet the liver:
. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.
See attached references.
My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.
I used lemon juice instead of grapefruit.
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coffee enemas
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These are great suggestions.
We tend to think in terms of "hit it quick and hard" when it comes to medical care, but nourishing your liver is the best defense you have for longterm health.
One way to take burden off the liver is to detox through sweat. Pungent foods like garlic really help you sweat. A FIR sauna is a good method of sweating...just be sure to replenish your electrolites afterward.
Eat lots of foods that support the liver like beets, asparagus and all the cruciferous vegetables.
The liver is so important and so many of our medications are toxic to our liver.
I take 600mg of NAC daily plus my liver supplement (Jarrow's Liver PF) has NAC in it.
Keebler, I did not realize the NAC was helping my Cpn. That is great to know.
Susan
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Definitely coffee enemas. They have helped cleanse my liver more than anything else. The Gerson Diet, which Dr. C in Missouri recommended to me, uses them. It really helps my digestive function and liver health.
Ask me if you have any more questions!
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Keebler
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Chlorophyll,
you asked: "Is NAC contraindicated with use of milk thistle?"
No. They are similar but still have different properties.
It's best to ask your doctor and also consult Singleton's "The Lyme Disease Solution" as he discussed both in his book.
I just looked in my copy of the book and Singleton suggests taking both at the same time (not so much at that same time of day but that both are on one's supplement protocol).
I hope you can get the book. It's very helpful.
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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:
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Do milk thistle or NAC interact with any medications? I seem to recall reading that one or both of these supplements interact with a common drug...maybe Mepron?
What are the best brands for these products? How much and how often should we take?
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Three homeopathics I like very much:
Liver Drainage from Deseret Biologicals Systemic drainage from Deseret Biologicals
Apr HEPAT from Pekana
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