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My Lyme, which I've probably had for a long time, was triggered by the Gardasil vaccine (HPV vaccine).
Has anyone else here discovered their Lyme through a flare up after receiving a vaccine?
My LLMD says its quite common because the vaccine triggers the immune system to perform at a higher level, which then causes the immune system to be able to "see" the Lyme, which had previously hidden from it. So then the immune system goes into attack mode, but since our immune system alone isn't enough to kill of Lyme, it stays at a constant higher level... and keeps trying to kill the Lyme.. which attests for many of the symptoms.
Just wondering if anyone else out there has discovered their Lyme through a vaccine...
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I had gotten really really ill with what turned out to be Lyme in 2001, probably right after my tick exposure, though I didn't see the tick. (I was outside in an endemic area right before getting sick.) I did end up having positive western blots for Lyme, but went 9 months undiagnosed.
But, by 2006 I had been doing better due to lots and lots of treatment with an LLMD (and also maybe time?) though I wasn't fully better. I decided to go back to school (college) part time. To go to school, I had to get a vaccine. I got the DPT (diptheria, pertussis, tetanus).
I had an immediate, severe reaction to it. I felt glued to the couch, within an hour after the shot. Trying to stand up was difficult because my body felt so heavy. I started sobbing because I could tell whatever had just happened was not going to go away overnight. I could just feel that it wasn't gonna get better in a day or two. It felt serious.
I never really recovered from it, and haven't yet been back to that state of health I was in in 2006 the day before the vaccine.
I'm currently undergoing serious treatment again. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get back to where I was, but it won't be easy...it has been trecherous. I will never get another vaccine as long as I live. I doubt I will let my children get them in the future, if I have biological children.
Thanks for letting me know about this info.....so I guess this means maybe I have a sluggish immune system when it comes to recognizing the Lyme? Hmmm...
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I believe vaccines accelerated latent lyme but on the theory of mercury/heavy metals in the preservative thimersol. I had five vaccinations all at one time.
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I had my pre-college vaccines when I was already ill, and it didn't seem to make me any worse or create a "spike" in symptoms (This is before I knew I had lyme, and instead was cited under chronic fatigue)
I think it is possible that the only connection between lyme and vaccines is immunological - that is to say, if your immune system is overtaxed fighting lyme, getting a vaccine that requires it to "work harder" will make you feel sicker
I believe this is another reason why so many CFS/Fibro diagnoses that turn out to be lyme have the markers for a severe illness, accident, or other stressor to the system.
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I think that for some of us, autoimmunity, perhaps triggered by Lyme, contributes to reactions to vaccines. If the immune system is stoked by anything, and you have autoimmune activity going in, then that stoking will result in the body attacking itself as well as the vaccine pathogen- the definition of autoimmunity.
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I've been thinking about vaccines and Lyme lately.
While filling out the paperwork for my LLMD appt., I realized that I haven't had a tetanus shot since 1997.
Would it be safe to get a booster, or should I wait till I'm in treatment?
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Vaccines contain adjuvents, such as aluminum salts, that inflame the immune system intentionally to provoke an immune system reaction to the bacteria in the vaccine.
It is not surprising that this stimulation of the immune system would provoke a herx since it has just revved up your immune system.
That does not mean it is a good way to provoke a reaction. I do not know if it would be a positive or negative for a Lyme infected person.
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I would not get the Tetanus Booster! My LLMD told me that this is one of the most common vaccines to make the Lyme symptoms flare up.
After my experience I am really against any vaccine. If you look into them they are awful for you. So unless you are going to be working in a rusty metal warehouse anytime soon, I would definitely hold off on getting the Tetanus Booster.
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I thought about the autoimmune explanation, but I don't have any positive auto-immune markers in my blood though, unlike some Lymies that do. I never have. Unless you count C1Q Immune complexes, which can also, like CD57, be abnormal because of long-standing chronic infection.
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Stay away from thimerosol and aluminum in the vaccines. they cause degenerative diseases in the brain.
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The depo-provera shot made my lyme flare really bad. I had a seizure while getting the injection. I have not had a vaccine or depo shot since and that was 14 years ago. I think it triggered my lyme and thyroid problems.
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All of my symptoms started a few weeks after receiving a tetanus booster shot.
I have numerous brain lesions and 1 O-band in my CSF, and worry about the whole autoimmune aspect of it. I would think that they were caused by the infection itself, though.
My LLMD also told me that he doesn't recommend tetanus boosters to his patients, because they tend to have problems with them.
Personally, I don't intent to ever receive another vaccine.
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They had a show on the radio the other night about vaccines. I think they are bad news. There's no evidence that the flu shots work. They can actually kill people & make people ill who have weak immune systems. Many people in the medical profession refuse vaccines.
The doctor was talking specifically about tetnus & the HPV vaccine, too. She said if a wound is cleaned properly with hydrogen peroxide - you don't really need the tetnus shot.
I don't see why anyone would need a tetnus shot unless you were exposed to getting a wound with a rusty nail or metal.
I stepped on a rusty nail when I was about 4 or 5 & I got a tetnus shot. I don't think I ever had one preventatively. Seems odd.
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Hey Sparkle, It seems odd to everyone except the people making money off it....To them, it seems fine to treat the body for tetanus that isn't there. Posts: 4590 | From Midwest | Registered: Jun 2008
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sooner said:
"Personally, I don't intent to ever receive another vaccine."
that's why i didn't push to get a tetnus shot(see my other post) but now maybe i really have it...
also i have never gotten flu shot per llmd
michael-it looks like you are new
go to ilads.com and look for info re: steroids and lyme
read dr. burrascano's guidelines(or relevant parts)
steroid shots totalled out my knees and i have had them replaced now
steroids in many forms are very bad for lyme
please search here or read up on it...welcome. too sick now to type much
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I got the tetanus booster because I deeply gouged my heel on an airport escalator....yes, wearing flip flops.
Ipkayak, let us know what your doctor says on Monday. Hopefully, it isn't tetanus but it is good reminder that everything that we do (or don't do) has consequences.
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The doc who is treating me for lyme has seen a bunch of young woman coming in that have had the gardasil vaccine and started to have bad symptoms. All of them tested positive for lyme.
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My 16 year old daughter did get the Guardasil vaccine when it first came out. About one year later she started the symptoms of lyme. I don't think they are related, but because she didn't have any recollection of a tick bite or rash and was testing negative to lyme tests, someone asked me if she had those vaccines. When I looked into articles about the vaccine, it was very scary to think that so many young ladies became very ill, even died, after getting it.
Now my new pediatrician asked me about it for my younger daughter, and I told her I am not so anxious to get it for her -- not after reading about the statistics that go along with it.
It seems like doctors make us feel compelled to get most of these immunizations as soon as they come out, and quite frankly, not much is know about their side effects.
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I think there is a link.
I also think our immune systems will "jump" on anything
That may trigger a response.
I never had poison oak or ivy in my life.
Could roll in it....no problems.
Had my first bout of it in 2007.
It was everywhere.
I only touched my arm, noticed the itching than washed it off well.
It seemed to cause my body to hyper-react (new word).
I just had to have a 3rd TB test or PPD.
Had two in January. Both negative.
The facility in which I work requires 2 in case of a false negative.
(Sounds like Lyme, huh?)
Was just informed last week that everybody gets tested in February.
They held my position over my head and forced a 3rd TB test on me.
I have not felt well since.
Could be coincidence, however, upon research
Found that vaccines and such can trigger an immune response
Especially in immuno-suppressed people.
I wish I could of told them to take that job and shot and......
Have a good time without me.
Hugs,
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I just got back my Doctor's Data metal testing, and I test "very elevated" for Mercury, slightly elevated for aluminum, and okay on everything else, including lead.
Wonder if the very elevated Mercury was from the vaccine?
It was a 6 hour urine test and I took DMSA before the test. When they say "very elevated," they mean compared to a healthy population that did not take DMSA.....so unfortunately I have no reference range for healthy individuals who take a chelating agent like DMSA.
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Tetanus booster shots have thimerosol, Gardasil has an aluminum adjuvant, they are bad for you, with or without Lyme.
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Interesting information. My daughter got the Gardasil vacine last year and shortly after became sick, with one thing or another , then Lyme. She is still not herself.
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Here is a helpful article on the inflammatory effects on the body from vaccines. Sorry it seems kind of long. There was also a thread discussing this article:
I thought this article was clear and concise and was helpful in understanding the inflammatory cascade from flu shots, vaccines, etc.
Since Lyme is a inflammatory bacterial infection, I could see why vaccines would exacerbate things. I wish the title of this article didn't make reference to the age of 50. One certainly doesn't have to be 50 years of age or older to be affected badly from a vaccine.
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Vaccines, Depression and Neurodegeneration After Age 50 By Russell L. Blaylock, M.D., CCN
It has been estimated that 14.8 million Americans suffer from major depressive disorder and of this number 6 million are elderly. If we include anxiety disorders, which commonly accompany depression, the number jumps to 40 million adults. At a cost of $44 billon dollars a year just for care of the seniors, this impacts the national budget as well.
Depression later in life tends to last longer and be more severe than at younger ages. It is also associated with a high rate of suicide.
Previously, it was thought that major depression was secondary to a deficiency in certain neurotransmitters in the brain, particularly the monoamines, which include serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine. While alterations in these important mood-related neurotransmitters is found with major depression, growing evidence indicates that the primary culprit is low-grade, chronic brain inflammation.
In addition, we now know that inflammatory cytokines can lower serotonin significantly and for long periods by a number of different mechanisms.
MSG and Depression
Researchers have also discovered that most people with major depressive disease (MDD) have higher levels of the neurotransmitter glutamate in their spinal fluid (CSF) and blood plasma. This is the same glutamate found as a food additive-for example, MSG (monosodium glutamate), hydrolyzed proteins, calcium or sodium casienate, soy protein isolate, vegetable protein concentrate or isolate, etc.
Much of the free glutamate in the brain of depressed people comes from within, that is it escapes from special cells within the brain itself (microglia and astrocytes). Free glutamate, that is, existing outside the neurons, is very toxic to brain connections and brain cells themselves -- mainly by a process called excitotoxicity.
This connection between high brain glutamate levels and major depression was discovered quite by accident, when researchers observed that the anesthetic drug ketamine could relieve depression for a prolonged period. Ketamine is a powerful blocking drug for a class of glutamate receptors (NMDA receptors).
For quite some time it was known that depression could cause a loss of neurons in the hippocampus of the brain-the area most important for recent memory (declarative memory or working memory), the form of memory most affected in Alzheimer's disease.
This shrinkage of the brain usually occurred with long-term depression, yet it was shown, using sophisticated testing, that even without brain shrinkage, memory could be adversely affected. Some antidepressants could not only reverse the memory loss but could reverse the shrinkage as well.
The implication was that the elevated brain glutamate, via excitotoxicity, was destroying brain connections and later killing brain cells in the hippocampus and that the antidepressants were lowering brain glutamate levels. Subsequent studies have confirmed that drugs that block excitotoxicity also reduce depression and that some antidepressants reduce brain glutamate levels.
The Link Between Elevated Brain Glutamate and Inflammation
A tremendous amount of research has now demonstrated the link between chronic low-level brain inflammation, elevated brain glutamate levels and major depression. We know that as we age, the level of inflammatory immune cytokines increase (such as interleukin-1� (IL-1), IL-6 and TNF-a). That is, the level of inflammation in our body increases, with high levels being seen at the extremes of life -- the 80s and 90s.
This progressive elevation in the body's inflammation increases our risk of a number of inflammation-linked diseases, such as cancer, arthritis, muscle weakness, fatigue, sleep disturbances, memory loss and confusion. People with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease have even higher levels of these inflammatory cytokines -- much higher.
When inflammatory chemicals are elevated in the brain it makes brain cells more vulnerable to a number of toxins, many of which are in the environment. One study demonstrated, using a series of sophisticated techniques, that if brain cells were exposed to low levels of a pesticide there was little toxicity seen and that if you exposed these same brain cells to an immune stimulant alone, little damage occurred.
But if you first exposed the brain cells to the immune stimulant, the same low dose of pesticide could destroy a great number of brain cells.
The importance of this observation was that the vaccine made the brain cells hypersensitive to the toxin so that even in concentrations that normally would do not cause harm, could wiped out most of the neurons. One of the strongest connections between an environmental toxin (pesticides) and a neurological disorder is with Parkinson's disease.
The reason it is more common in the elderly is that they have the highest levels of inflammatory cytokines. This also explains the high incidence of Alzheimer's disease, which reaches incidences of 50% after age 80.
The link to depression was also serendipitous
Doctors using immune cytokines to treat patients with cancer or hepatitis found that one third of the patients developed major depressive illness within days of the treatment and that it resolved only when the treatment was terminated. Other studies, in which inflammatory cytokine levels were measured in people with major depressive illness, also found most had high levels of these inflammatory chemicals.
To their surprise, they found that many of the antidepressant medications commonly used lowered inflammatory cytokines levels and that patients who failed to respond had the highest level of the cytokines.
So, how is this linked to excitotoxicity?
Neuroscientists have known for some time that inflammatory cytokines cause the brain to release higher levels of glutamate -- the more intense the inflammation, the higher the brain glutamate level. The highest levels are found in the prefrontal lobes and limbic system, the areas most related to mood control. MSG also increases brain inflammation.
Vaccination and Brain Inflammation
A great number of studies have shown that when you vaccinate an animal, the body's inflammatory cytokines not only increase dramatically, but so do the brain's inflammatory chemicals. The brain has its own immune system that is intimately connected to the body's immune system. The main immune cell in the brain is called a microglia. Normally, these brain cells are lying throughout the brain in a resting state (called ramified).
Once activated, they can move around, traveling between brain cells like amoeba (called amoeboid microglia).
In the resting state, they release chemicals that support the growth and protection of brain cells and their connections (dendrites and synapses). But when activated, they secrete a number of very harmful chemicals, including inflammatory cytokines, chemokines, complement, free radicals, lipid peroxidation products, and two excitotoxins -- glutamate and quinolinic acid.
In essence, these brain immune cells are out to kill invaders, since the body's immune system sent an emergency message that an invasion had occurred. With most infections, this phase of activation last no more than a few days to two weeks, during which time the immune system successfully kills off the invaders.
Once that is accomplished, the immune system shuts down to allow things to cool off and the brain to repair what damage was done by its own immune system.
What researchers knew was that during this period of activation, people generally feel bad and that what they experience closely resembles depression -- a condition called "sickness behavior". Most of us have experience this when suffering from a viral illness -- such things as restlessness, irritability, a need to get away from people, trouble sleeping, fatigue and difficulty thinking.
Studies have shown that there are two phases to this "sickness behavior"; one in which we have the flu-like symptoms and a later onset of depression-like symptoms that can last awhile. They have also shown that all of these symptoms are due to high levels of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which come from activated microglia.
A number of studies have also shown that after age 50, people have exaggerated and prolonged "sickness behavior", much more so than younger people. This is one of the reasons why many elderly hang onto flu symptoms for months after exposure.
There is also another immune phenomenon that plays a major role in vaccine-related brain injury. Researchers discovered that when you vaccinate an animal, the brain microglia immune cells turn on partially (called priming), that is, they are in a state of high readiness. If the immune system is activated again soon after (days, weeks to months), these microglia explode into action secreting levels of their destructive chemicals far higher than normal. This overreaction can be very destructive and make you feel very depressed.
Stimulating your immune system with a vaccine is far different than contracting an infectious illness naturally. Vaccines are made of two components -- the agent you wish to vaccinate against -- for example, the measles virus; and an immune system booster called an immune adjuvant.
These adjuvants are composed of such things as aluminum compounds, MSG, lipid compounds and even mercury. Their job is to make the immune system react as intensely as possible and for as long as possible.
Studies have shown that these adjuvants, from a single vaccine, can cause immune overactivation for as long as two years. This means that the brain microglia remain active as well, continuously pouring out destructive chemicals. In fact, one study found that a single injection of an immune activating substance could cause brain immune overactivation for over a year. This is very destructive.
Flu Vaccines and an Expanding Vaccine Schedule for the Elderly
Public health authorities and physician societies are in an all out campaign to have every elderly person vaccinated every year with the flu vaccine as well as a growing number of newer vaccines. When I was practicing neurosurgery, the hospitals had an automatic written order on all older patients' charts mandating a flu vaccine, unless it was countermanded by the physician, which I always did.
Now, they are giving the shots in malls, tents and every available site they can muster. And worse still, using lies and scare tactics to frighten the elderly into getting the shots (such as the bold lie that 36,000 elderly die of the flu every year).
As you age, your immune system, including that special immune system in your brain, releases significantly more inflammatory immune cytokines than when you were younger. This serves to prime the microglia, as discussed. So, when you get your first flu shot your microglia overreact and does so for a very long period -- perhaps years.
Many elderly report that the flu shot gave them the flu. Proponents of vaccines, retort with a condescending laugh; that it is impossible because the flu vaccine contains killed flu viruses. In truth, what these people are reporting is a prolonged, intense "sickness behavior" response to the vaccine. To the body, it is worse than getting the flu.
Remember, no one is recording the number of elderly who die after getting the flu shot, especially if they die months later, which can happen with sickness behavior, especially if they have a preexisting chronic illness or are infirm.
The Shocking Truth
With the elderly already having increased inflammatory cytokine levels both systemically and in their brain, stimulating these primed microglia so that a chronic overstimulation of the brain's immune system is triggered, will not only increase their risk of developing one of the neurodegenerative diseases, but will also substantially increase their risk of developing major depression. Remember, this also increases their risk of suicide, and even homicide, dramatically.
Anxiety is a major problem with depression, and vaccinations will greatly worsen the condition. In fact, vaccination, especially multiple vaccinations, will maintain the brain in a state of inflammation that will be self-perpetuating, because the excess release of glutamate in the brain, as well as glutamate in the diet, will further enhance microglial activation and excitotoxicity.
Those who are prone to developing one of the neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease will be at a drastically increased risk as we have seen experimentally when even animals exposed to subtoxic concentrations of environmental toxins and vaccinated develop neurologic worsening.
Most people use pesticides in their home, and studies have shown that the concentrations in homes are sufficient to trigger Parkinson's disease in susceptible people. Vaccinations, as these studies have shown, will greatly increase that risk. Most doctors are completely unaware of this important research.
You must keep in mind that "health authorities" urge the elderly to get the flu vaccine each and every year. This will keep the microglia in a primed and even activated state continuously. Recently, neurologists announced that the incidence of neurodegenerative disease had been grossly underestimated and that neurological diseases of aging were increasing at a frightening rate. They have no explanation.
Over the last three decades the number of elderly receiving yearly flu vaccines has risen from 20% before 1980 to over 60% today.
If this were not depressing enough, now the public health authorities and medical specialty societies are adding a whole new set of vaccines for those above 50 years of age, including the pneumococcal and meningiococcal vaccines. What is being completely ignored by the promoters of these vaccines is the effect of multiple doses of immune adjuvant that accompany each of these vaccines.
Let's say you see your doctor and he talks you into getting the flu vaccine, the pneumococcal and meningiococcal vaccine all during the same office visit. That way, he can save you extra office visits. What your doctor ignores is that he is giving you three doses of powerful immune adjuvant all in one sitting, which means that your body and brain are assaulted by a massive dose of powerful immune activators, which have been proven to activate the brain's immune system to dangerous levels, even when given as a single dose.
Proof of this mechanism exists not only in animal studies, but in humans as well.
Mercury and Aluminum
There are other ways that vaccines can cause havoc in the brain. Most vaccines contain aluminum compounds. A multitude of studies have shown that aluminum, especially if combined with fluoride, is a powerful brain toxin and that it accumulates in the brain. With each vaccine injection, a dose of aluminum is given. These yearly aluminum inoculations accumulate not only at the site of the injection, but travel to the brain, where it enters neurons and glial cells (astrocytes and microglia).
A number of studies have shown that aluminum can activate microglia and do so for long periods. This means that the aluminum in your vaccination is priming your microglia to overreact. The next vaccine acts to trigger the enhanced inflammatory reaction and release of the excitotoxins, glutamate and quinolinic acid.
You must also appreciate that any infection, stroke, head injury or other toxin exposure will also magnify this inflammatory brain reaction initially triggered by your vaccines. Studies have now indicated that the more one's immune system is activated the more like he or she will suffer from one of the neurodegenerative diseases.
Mercury is also a powerful activator of brain microglia and can do so in extremely low concentrations -- in nanomolar amounts. Because of its numerous reactions with sulfhydral compounds in the body (which are ubiquitous), mercury can poison a number of enzymes, both systemically and in the brain. Of special concern is the ability of mercury, especially ethylmercury (the kind found in vaccines called thimerosal) to inhibit the regulation of brain glutamate levels. (It does this by inhibiting the glutamate transfer proteins that control the removal of glutamate from outside the neuron, where it does its harm.)
In essence, mercury, in the concentrations being injected with vaccines, triggers excitotoxicity, increases brain free radicals and lipid peroxidation products, inhibits critical brain enzymes, inhibits antioxidant enzymes and impairs DNA repair ability. The flu vaccine contains enough mercury to do all of these things. You must keep in mind that each flu vaccine adds to the mercury supplied by your last vaccine -- that is, it is progressively accumulating in your brain.
In addition, the aluminum in the vaccines also primes microglia, and when combined with mercury is infinitively more toxic to the brain. Now, if this is not enough, we also have to consider the contamination of vaccines with foreign viruses and viral components. Studies have shown that this is not a rare occurrence, with up to 60% of vaccines being contaminated in one study of several major manufactured vaccines.
When confronted with this fact, vaccine proponents just shrug their shoulders and say -- "We don't think these things are harmful."
Yet, the studies say otherwise.
It has been found that insertion of viral fragments, not even the whole virus, is sufficient to trigger the brain's microglial system and subsequent excitotoxicity, leading to progressive brain degeneration. This is accepted to be the mechanism by which the HIV virus causes dementia in a great number of AIDS victims. Fragments of the virus (gp140 and Tat) are engulfed by the microglia and this triggers chronic brain inflammation and excitotoxicity. The herpes virus and measles virus can do the same thing.
Danger of Live Virus Vaccines
A number of studies have shown that live viruses used in vaccines can enter the brain and reside there for a lifetime. One such study, in which autopsied elderly were examined for the presence of the measles virus, found that 20% of the brains had live measles viruses and 45% of other organs were infected. These viruses were highly mutated, meaning that they could be just as potent as other measles viruses, but could be even more virulent.
Worse, is that in most cases they cause a smoldering destruction of tissues without the obvious symptoms of infection, which has been shown in a number of studies.
Live virus vaccines are made using a process to attenuate the pathogenic or disease-causing virus by passing it through a series of cultures. The problem is that the reverse can also happen within the body. A number of studies have shown that when we produce free radicals in our body (and we produce tons of such radicals over a lifetime), it mutates the viruses residing in our tissues. This is what was found in the autopsy study I referred to above.
Likewise, these viruses can trigger brain inflammation and degeneration, which has been shown in a number of studies -- that is, there exist a chronic degeneration of the brain over years or decades. Because it is so far separated from the time of the original vaccine, physicians just attribute it to old age or heredity. Anything but the vaccines.
Virologists are also concerned that such mutated live viruses can also infect other people, leading to outbreaks of disease totally unsuspected by health authorities.
Conclusion
Current recommendations by the CDC for adult vaccinations include a total of 14 separate inoculations with infectious agents and powerful immune adjuvants. To be fair, some of these are for special medical risks and conditions, such as high-risk behaviors, illegal drug use and HIV infected individuals.
If we eliminate these, women will be exposed to 10 inoculations and men 7, should they follow CDC guidelines, which doctors follow.
According to CDC recommendations, multiple vaccinations for a single disease are separated by no more than 4 weeks, which is close enough together to produce priming and subsequent hyperactivation of brain microglia. We have seen that this can trigger a smoldering process of brain inflammation and excitotoxicity that can not only result in depression, anxiety and high suicide rates, but can increase one's risk of developing one of the neurodegenerative diseases as well.
We have also seen that in many cases a person will be injected with several vaccines during a single office visit and that this means their body is exposed to a very large dose of immune adjuvant. Compelling studies, using many animal species as well as humans, have shown that this overactivates brain inflammatory mechanism that can last for years.
In addition, several additives to vaccines, such as mercury and aluminum, are powerful brain toxins that are known to accumulate in the brain over years and can trigger brain inflammatory/excitotoxic mechanisms. Vaccine contaminants, such as bacteria, mycoplasma and viral fragments can also produce prolonged brain inflammation and neurodegeneration.
Because the elderly already have high levels of inflammatory cytokines, they are at a special risk. The very young (babies and small children) are at a high risk because their brains are undergoing the most rapid development at the very time they receive the greatest number of vaccinations -- the first two years of life. In fact, they receive 22 vaccines during the first year of life, one of which contains a full pediatric dose of mercury.
Like adults, they receive many inoculations (up to 9 inoculations) in one office visit. This is insane and in my estimation, criminal.
Nasal flu vaccines are even worse, because they introduce a live virus into the nasal passages, which can then travel along the olfactory nerves, which leads to the very part of the brain first and most severely affected by Alzheimer's disease. A number of studies have shown that viruses and bacteria can pass along this route to the brain.
In fact, in one study scientists sprayed a bacterium into the nose of mice and observed a rapid development of Alzheimer's type plaques in the mouse's brain.
So What Should Older People Do?
First, studies have shown that the primary cause of immune deficiency in the elderly is purely dietary. The carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, alpha-carotene, canthaxanthin, lutein and lycopene significantly enhance the immunity of the elderly. Zinc, magnesium and selenium are also essential. One should also avoid omega-6 oils (the vegetable oils: corn, safflower, sunflower, canola, soybean and peanut oils), since they greatly enhance inflammation and depress immunity. The EPA component of fish oils (omega-3 oils) is also a powerful immune suppressant. DHA is not.
A healthy immune system means that you can fight infections efficiently and rapidly.
Regular exercise, such as brisk walking or weight exercises three to five times a week also boost immunity, while extreme exercise suppresses immunity. Sugar and refined carbohydrates also suppress immunity and inflame the brain. Exercise protects the brain from aging effects and from degeneration.
Adequate sleep is also vital to both brain health and good immune function.
Pubic health officials and spokesmen for the major medical societies are lying to the public concerning vaccine safety. We now possess sufficient information from a great number of studies to halt this disastrous vaccine policy. We are facing a medial disaster in this country, which is already well on its way.
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I had an updated MMR vaccine about the time some of my symptoms began to exacerbate. I believe there are many such triggers for the immune system to become overloaded.
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Regarding the tetanus, which a couple of you mention, I had a tetanus shot about 6 mos. before my Lyme diagnosis, so I didn't know to be careful about overloading my system.
I found it gave me EXTREME brain fog for several days. Now I'm not surprised.
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My chiropractor told me that they're starting to push the Gardisil vaccine on boys.
That makes no sense to me, but then what do I know?
I still haven't gotten my 2 year old his first dose of MMR. For some reason, I'm afraid.
If and when I do get it for him I'm going to have the dose split up.
And I just saw something on TV about Pampers donating money to the newborn tetanus cause.
WTH? Are they going to start giving newborns THAT vaccine too?
It was bad enough when they gave my kids the HiB and the Hepatitus vaccines at birth (I think that's what they were).
And I just found my vaccine records from when I was a baby--hardly anything compared to what they get now. And I'm still alive.
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The amount of vaccines a child gets by the age of 3 is sinful in my opinion.
My youngest son who is 21 now, had a horrible reaction to the DPT vaccine as a baby. This was the last vaccine he ever had until he was 18 and going on a trip to China.
You have to go to battle with the schools but it's worth it.
I was having a colonoscopy recently and they asked, since I was there, would I like a flu shot and get caught up on my tetanus shots? No thank you Posts: 1129 | From Maine | Registered: Feb 2008
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I didn't read everyone else's replies but I finally crashed after getting a tetanus shot and then a flu shot a couple years later. The shots weren't completely responsible but were the straws that broke the camels back.
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I was hospitalized after a reaction to the 7th grade DPT booster and this was about a year after suspected infection. I was excused from future vaccinations, not that there were any left to get.
My children are excused from vaccines because of bad reactions. Just another reason I need to get them tested for lyme as well, among others...
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quote:Originally posted by sbh93: I was hospitalized after a reaction to the 7th grade DPT booster and this was about a year after suspected infection.
My son got sick after the 7th grade booster.
I have been suspecting this was the cause. Everyone says no mercury in this booster.
What causes the reaction???
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Toxic mold was suppressing our immune systems, causing extreme pain, brain fog and magnifying symptoms. Four days after moving out, the healing began. Posts: 2007 | From NY/VT Border | Registered: Aug 2010
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Maybe there was aluminum instead of mercury?
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I just got the Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis) on Sunday afternoon. My pain started in the arm that I got the shot in, then went to both arms and neck on Monday. On Tuesday, I still had arm pain and had muscle twitching over my stomach area all day and serious tightening of the muscles in my right leg especially where it meets the body. It was seriously uncomfortable. Now it's Wednesday morning and that's gone but I still have a lot of pain in my arms, hands, neck and legs. I guess it's better than getting full blown tetanus just a temporary form. Wish I wouldn't have cut myself so bad with metal, sheesh!
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Lymie Laura Please PM me...I am going through the same thing!
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I don't believe there is any proof that tetanus immunity wears off. Big pharma is just milking its cash cow by convincing the medical establishment that we need these things. They supposedly removed thimerosol from vaccines intended for children 10 years ago, but now I am not so sure, and I would be willing to bet that adult tetanus boosters still have it and that those are cheaper for Dr.'s so even pediatricians will still use them to maximize their office profit. Most pediatricians still don't believe in an autism-vaccine connection, though many parents of autistic children will insist that the regression into the condition started immediately or soon after an immunization. There may be a vitamin D depleting effect from over activation of the immune system after a vaccination or from the presence of mercury or aluminum in them.
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Tricia--I scrolled down to make sure you saw this post! Glad to see you responded and hope you and Lymie Laura can connect!
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