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cs
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Or does it not matter? My pillbox is beyond full in the probiotics section, if I can switch the NAC it will give me more space. Anyone know if it is ok to take NAC with antibiotics? Thx!

[ 03-15-2009, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: cs ]

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NAC is considered an antioxidant, so you may want to wait 2 hours after abx before taking it.

don't know of any reason you couldn't take it with your probiotics. anybody know?

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Right now I am taking it with the probiotics, but the little box in the pill case is stuffed, so was hoping I could adjust that.
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Ok, so maybe a better question is, are there any of the following that I *could* safely combine with the antibiotics without compromising effectiveness of anything:

Silymarin
ALA/Thiocid
NAC
Florastor
Allicin/Allimax

Thanks!
-karen

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As mentioned above, supplement are usually best away from abx. But, in case NAC is different, you can find the answer at links below.


This is not mentioned in Burrascano's supplement list. Of the five pages discussing it in Singleton's book, "The Lyme Disease Solution" I could not find anything about the timing of it.


However, you can find the answer with the Cpn CAP protocol.

Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) Treatment is very similar to that of lyme but NAC is REQUIRED to be taken when on the CAP (combined antibiotic protocol).

Sorry, I don't have the answer on the top of my head but you will be able to find it here either from posts or in the protocol. (The Weldon and Stratton protocols are similar but have a few differences. I'm pretty sure both require use of NAC).


Be sure to look at the menu at the top and at the sides of the web page. You can also search NAC but it may only take you to posts, not articles from the menu.


www.cpnhelp.org

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The search results for posts with "NAC" :

http://www.cpnhelp.org/search/node/NAC


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From Getting Started, the Supplements:

http://www.cpnhelp.org/recommended_supplements


Excerpts from http://www.cpnhelp.org/publicimages/allsupplementschart.html


Two week course essential before starting any antibiotics and continuous throughout protocol.

Supports and protects liver against toxicity.
Kills Cpn Elementary Bodies. (EB's)

600mg 2x per day

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So far, I've not found the answer and my attention span just dropped off the map.


I have not gone through the threads, but only just glanced at the charts. The answer MUST be there somewhere.


And, hey, if you find it, would you please come back and post the link for that page? Thanks.

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Hey CS, are you taking antibiotics 2 or 3x per day? If 2x per day (breakfast and dinner) try taking the NAC and supplements at lunch.

If 3x per day try to take your supplements with an afternoon or evening snack.

Since the Allicin/Allimax is both a natural antifungal and antibacterial be sure to take it an hour or 2 before or after your probiotics and Florastor. Do not take it with the probiotics.

I take my probiotics at bedtime, easier for me to remember since I take antibiotics or supplements with all other meals or snacks.

Hope this helps [Smile]

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Oh no, I have to separate the allicin from the probiotics too? Can I take those with the antibiotics possibly? I seriously do not have any more time in the day to separate things out with my current schedule, I am taking the antibiotics 2-3 times a day (depending on whether I am on flagyl or not at the time), and the probiotics and supplements are 3 times a day, and I have to fit cholestyramine in between that too, so there is honestly not another 2 hour window available. I don't know what to do now, and I couldn't find the info I needed on the NAC either. Help?
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I think you can take allicin with antibiotics but ask your doctor. You might also have to consider your stomach as sometimes allicin works best with food in the stomach to buffer it.


You cannot take probiotics with antibiotics or with antimicrobial herbs such as allicin, olive leaf extract, andrographis.


You can take probiotics with support herbs such as those for adrenal support and (I'm guessing here) probably with liver support supplements, too.


You might be able to go to twice a day for probiotics.


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My doc definitely wants me on the probiotics 3 times a day, but if I can take the allicin with the antibiotics, then that would solve the problem (and solve the space problem in the pill case also!). Do you know if Allicin can be combined with artemisinin as well? Thanks so much for your help!
-karen

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Ok doc's office said that it is ok to take the allicin with the antibiotics - just wanted to update in case anyone else was wondering.
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Makes sense, as it's a natural antibiotic.
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