I am not sure about for a child. You can call the company and ask for dosing, etc.
You would have to order it via your doc or health care professional. They do not sell it to individuals.
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I think the Researched Nutritionals products are the best. Some like Chisholm Labs as well but they are more expensive I believe. 4Life never seemed to do anything for me.
RN has a MultiImmune as well as a LymPlus specific TF.
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My doc recommended the Research Nutritionals products as well.
Ugh, all of these products cost more than my medicines a month!!
I will have to find out about my daughter. Jez, I had to get special proboitics that she could mix up to eat as well. She does not like all this stuff, but I told her that we all have to do it....
Thanks, Shalome
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Do we need to take the mushroom free one?
Also... researched nutritionals requires a doctors OK to order their products.
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I liked the chisholm labs products. My kids took that and the beta glucan. Great people. My little guy had huge herxes at first, but good progress.
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peacemama,
How long did they stay on it?
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Cane-
It can be purchased through other sites w/o a DR, look further
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Robert Cohen has some info for anyone who thinks Transfer Factor Plus is OK to take. It is NOT.
Please read below:
Dear Friends,
Last night, I made a resolution to work harder this year. Each time I go the extra yard in helping somebody, I create a tiny ripple in an enormous ocean. Please observe closely the next time you throw a rock into a lake or ocean. It's always a bulls-eye!
Create enough ripples, and one makes waves. Resolve to make waves. Together we can erode ignorance, and change our landscape for the better.
Early this New Year's morning I received this letter from a reader (name and EMAIL address withheld):
"What is your opinion of Transfer Factor? It is our understanding that it is not colostrum- just the factor from colostrum that builds the immune system. I am a vegan and make my own soymilk, but I have been taking Transfer Factor and have not had a cold, flu or such "bugs" since I have been on it. People mention the madcow disease, etc just because it does come from milk. I have been on the fence about it but since I have had so much better health taking it, I continue to take it. Thanks for any words of wisdom that you have."
Transfer factor is a substance found in colostrum. It works, and that is the problem.
When a mother gives birth to her infant, her mammary glands produce a pre-milk formula called colostrum. Cows, dogs, sheep, humans... all mammals produce their own "perfect formula" which provides disease- preventing immunological factors and hormones which promote growth. Colostrum is super-saturated with hormones.
Each hormone regulates one or more of the thousands of metabolic processes occurring every second inside of the human body. Some hormones regulate cellular metabolism. Vitamin D, the sunshine vitamin, is actually a steroid hormone. In the 1850's, scientists first recognized that the thyroid gland produced a substance which regulated metabolism. A decade later, it was noted that the pancreas acted as a gland, secreting a substance that would later be identified as insulin. Hormones are chemical messengers.
There is a group of protein hormones that regulate growth. These protein hormones (made up of amino acids) instruct cells to grow. The first one of these to be discovered was appropriately named 'Human Growth Hormone'(hGH) or human somatotropin(hST). Dogs have canine somatotropin CST/CGH, pigs have porcine somatotropin (pST/pGH) and cows have bovine somatotropin (bST/bGH). Human Growth hormone was discovered just before World War II. It was so named because of what it did: promoted cellular proliferation and growth.
Two decades after GH was discovered, an even more powerful growth factor was found. IGF-I Insulin-like growth factor(IGF-I) received its name because its structure resembled that of insulin. However, its function is nothing like insulin. Had IGF-I been discovered before GH, it would have received that name. IGF-I is much more powerful than GH. IGF-I is the most powerful growth hormone known to science.
A MIRACLE OF NATURE
IGF-I, the most POWERFUL growth hormone in the human body, is identical between humans and cows.
DOES TRANSFER FACTOR WORK?
Manufacturers and multi-level marketing sales persons call colostrum and transfer factor the ultimate anti-aging formulas. They claim that their formula removes wrinkles and promote athletic endurance. They repair muscle tears and promote nerve growth.
ARE THE CLAIMS ACCURATE?
YES! Colostrum works. IGF-I works. Transfer factor works!. Hormones work.
WHAT ELSE CAN TRANSFER FACTOR DO FOR YOU?
Hormones do not discriminate. Transfer factor's major component is IGF-I, the most powerful growth hormone and cellular proliferator. When IGF-I is produced naturally, it loses its potency (by attaching to receptor proteins or by being broken down into its basic components) in less than 30 seconds. In colostrum or transfer factor, IGF-I can "survive" for 30 minutes.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IGF-I IN COLOSTRUM OR TRANSFER FACTOR FINDS AN EXISTING CANCER?
Infants are not usually born with cancers. Cancers are quite common in adults, but normally controlled by our immune systems.
THE MISSING LINK-CANCER IS COMMON, WAITING TO GROW
On November 8, 1994 the New York Times reported the results of an autopsy study on pre-mature deaths (page C-1, Gina Kolata).
The study revealed that nearly 40% of women between the ages of 40 and 50 have Breast Cancer and virtually all adults over the age of 50 have some form of cancer.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR A CANCER TO GROW?
Every cancer begins with one cell. That cell doubles, on average, every ninety days. After three months, it is two cells. After six months, four. After one year, the cancer is 16 cells in size.
After twenty cycles, or doublings, that cancer will grow to one million cells, which is the tiniest lump a woman can feel in her breast. It can take 8-10 years for a cancer to be clinically diagnosed. Somewhere along that timeline, the cancer stops growing, usually suppressed by the immune system's tight genetic controls.
SOMETHING MAKES CANCER GROW
IGF-I has been called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancers. http://www.notmilk.com
WOULD YOU TAKE A SUBSTANCE CONTAINING THE KEY FACTOR TO CANCER'S GROWTH?
Remove wrinkles from your face or get an extra burst of energy and you might very well be lighting the fuse for your future cancer diagnosis. Transfer factor works. Colostrum works. There is no debate. They might very well work too well. Take transfer factor or colostrum today and in ten years you might not make the connection between today's phenomenal growth product and tomorrow's not-so phenomenal cancer.
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My LLND says that colostrum has been tested and lyme has been found in some batches of even the very best brands, including goat milk colostrum. I'm on the fence with this one.
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Wow! Some doc gave me a bottle of this and I'm sure glad I never took it!
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I don't know alot about transfer factor. It seems a little suspicious to me. It's expensive & I'm not sure that it really works. My doctor recommended it but I think he gets a commission - so, I don't really trust his recommendations.
If you look at Senator Biddell's treatment with colostrum - they used his own blood to create a colostrum with his personal transfer factor. It was "genetically modified" for his immune system. If you haven't read about this - it's a senator who got a cow & injected his blood into the cow to create a colustrum for his own therapy. He suffered from Lyme Disease... It supposedly cured his Lyme but the FDA cracked down on this practice to prevent others from doing it.
I don't think "general" transfer factor is helpful unless you get your own personal cow & inject it with your blood to make the colostrum.
Anyway, I don't have time to research this alot today. I did find this one study on PubMed -
A double-blind trial of the effect of transfer factor on multiple sclerosis patients was carried out. In a series of fifty-six multiple sclerosis patients treated with monthly injections of either transfer factor or placebo for 1 year, no beneficial effect of transfer factor was noted.
In addition, none of the immunological and serological parameters studied (measles migration inhibition, measles HI titre or CSF immunoglobulin) changed as a result of transfer factor therapy.
Histocompatibility typing and CSF IgG/TP ratios were correlated with the disease activity. Of interest was the finding that the presence of the DW2 antigen, when unassociated with HLA-B7 antigen, appeared to correlate with the mildest form of disease activity.
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Please post if you have any further studies that this actually does anything. I'd like to know...
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When my white blood cell count went low during antibiotic therapy, my now famous lyme doc had me take Transfer Factor.
It worked wonderfully. We retested my blood 2 weeks later and I was back in the normal range.
Later, when it went low again, he had me just stay on it until the completion of my treatment. So, I never had to stop antibiotics due to a low white blood cell count. I was very happy about that.
I don't remember the brand, but it was made from bovine (cow) colostrum (the first milk made by a mother).
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Sparkle you're more skeptical than me about everything!!
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Yes, I am skeptical - especially of the expensive stuff...
Transfer factors are a complex group of more than 200 highly polar, hydrophilic, low molecular weight (less than 12,000 Daltons) proteins produced in small quantities by lymphoid cells (1).
Their precise molecular structure has not been determined. They carry with them the parent lymphocyte's delayed-type hypersensitivity and cell-mediated immunity and pass it along to non-immune recipients and they appear to function across species.
Transfer factors can be extracted from human or animal white blood cells, cloned lymphocytes grown in vitro, colostrum, and egg yolk.
They appear to be well tolerated and in clinical settings have shown some signs of efficacy in treatment of herpes (2), acute infection in children (3), chronic fatigue syndrome (4), and Candidiasis (5).
One study showed effectiveness in increasing white blood cells, CD8 lymphocytes and interleukin 2 levels among patients with HIV (6).
Transfer factors appear to be ineffective in treating hepatitis (7), multiple sclerosis (8), extrinsic bronchial asthma (9), human warts (10), and acne vulgaris (11).
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Seems like it's helpful but not necessarily as a "cure" for everything related to Lyme.
I'm going to continue to look into it. I am interested but I'm not sure that everyone should take it as part of a Lyme protocol. It may have specific functions & not everyone may need it.
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For some reason - this keeps popping up in my mind today about the transfer factor...
Anyway- I believe there are other things you can try to get your NK cells up to par if you don't want to take transfer factor.
They sort of forced Thymic A or a product called ProBoost on me at the Fibromyalgia & Fatigue Center. This is supposed to be helpful. I bought it a few times but I didn't actually feel any different. It may have boosted my NK cells but I don't recall feeling any better... At the FFC they charged about $75 a box for it. I was able to get it on line for about $50.
The product I'm interested in these days is Lactoferrin. I believe this is helpful for immunity & it's not as expensive as Transfer Factor. I'm using one that is apolactoferrin. I read it's supposed to be better than just the Lactoferrin but I don't know for sure.
You need to have adequate iron to use the apolactoferrin. The regular lactoferrin may be adequate but - like I said - I don't know for sure.
Like many other medicinal mushrooms, reishi mushroom can be used to treat cancer patients due to its ability to activate NK cells, macrophages, T-lymphocytes, and cytokines, all important immune system components.
Kee Chang Huang reports that reishi "exerts a synergistic effect with other anticancer chemothera-peutic agents or radiotherapy, to augment the clinical therapeutic effect in the treatment of cancer patients."
- The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook: Everything You Need to Know About Chinese, Western, and Ayurvedic Herbal Treatments by Alan Keith Tillotson, Ph.D., A.H.G., D.Ay.
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Hope this helps...
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